Why do we hate the congress- My take.

[scorpionx]

Promise, PDF p aag lag jayegi aur sare SICKULAR (esp. @scorpionx) bhi 10 bar sochenge Congress ko vote krne se phle

 

[Razia Sultana]

It is true that congress corrupt leaders plays the dirty game of using reservation as a tool to draw votebanks. What we have seen 60 years after the independence is extremely corrupt regimes who will overlook its people for pleasing foreign powers and the power concentrated to just one family.

For your knowledge, the reservation to SC/ST is an outcome of Poona Pact - 1932 between Gandhi and Ambedkar. Post independence governments have nothing to do with that. Secondly, reservations to non SC/ST was introduced by a non congress VP Singh govt. which was supported by BJP.

There was very little corruption before emergency or in first 2 decades of independence. Today no political party or govt is free of corruption.

Indira Gandhi silenced her critics with her ability to govern. Her mettle was prven when she bifurcated Pakistan in 1971. Rajiv Gandhi was the darling of Indians when he took oath in 1984. Then no one talked of family. But its high time congress looks beyond the gandhi family.

 

[raktaka]

For your knowledge, the reservation to SC/ST is an outcome of Poona Pact - 1932 between Gandhi and Ambedkar. Post independence governments have nothing to do with that. Secondly, reservations to non SC/ST was introduced by a non congress VP Singh govt. which was supported by BJP.

There was very little corruption before emergency or in first 2 decades of independence. Today no political party or govt is free of corruption.

Indira Gandhi silenced her critics with her ability to govern. Her mettle was prven when she bifurcated Pakistan in 1971. Rajiv Gandhi was the darling of Indians when he took oath in 1984. Then no one talked of family. But its high time congress looks beyond the gandhi family.

LOL.... can you stop writing complete rubbish and lies regarding reservation. Reservation started MUCH before Poona Pact.

The First demand for Reservation was made in 1882 by Mahatma Jyotirao Phule who demanded free and compulsory education for all along with proportionate reservation/representation in government jobs.

Then in 1902 , Chatrapati Sahuji Maharaj, Maharaja of Kolhapur introduced 50% reservation in services for backward classes/communities in the State of Kolhapur.

The Govt. of India first introduced reservation in 1909 as per provisions of the Morley-Minto Reforms. The act itself was passed in 1919 known as Govt. of India act 1919.

In 1921-Madras Presidency introduced reservation of 44 per cent for non-Brahmins, 16 per cent for Brahmins, 16 per cent for Muslims, 16 per cent for Anglo-Indians/ Christians and eight per cent for Scheduled Castes.

In 1935 the Congress agreed to the Poona Pact but this was ONLY for representation in parliament. Not for reservation in jobs or schools.

 

[Grevion]

For your knowledge, the reservation to SC/ST is an outcome of Poona Pact - 1932 between Gandhi and Ambedkar. Post independence governments have nothing to do with that. Secondly, reservations to non SC/ST was introduced by a non congress VP Singh govt. which was supported by BJP.

There was very little corruption before emergency or in first 2 decades of independence. Today no political party or govt is free of corruption.

Indira Gandhi silenced her critics with her ability to govern. Her mettle was prven when she bifurcated Pakistan in 1971. Rajiv Gandhi was the darling of Indians when he took oath in 1984. Then no one talked of family. But its high time congress looks beyond the gandhi family.

Though the concept of reservation was established by the Britishers it was later used as a tool to exploit the lower castes and expand their votebanks by the congressies and then by all political classes.

 

[GodToons]

Political parties outlines different meaning to the same ideologies.
Do you believe that Samajwadi party serves its true purpose of samajwad or so does the rastriya janta dal (RJD)?

I do not consider them as an ideology. Name any part in India except for Shiv Sena and BJP, all follow same congress ideology under different name. Samajwad is nothing but socialism which is foundation of congress ideology.

 

[Razia Sultana]

LOL.... can you stop writing complete rubbish and lies regarding reservation. Reservation started MUCH before Poona Pact.

My comments were in reply to a paragraph. Can you please highlight what is not true in my statements regarding reservations?

Though the concept of reservation was established by the Britishers it was later used as a tool to exploit the lower castes and expand their votebanks by the congressies and then by all political classes.

Acc. to raktaka at #18 above the first demand for reservations were made in 1882 and perhaps chhatrapati sahuji maharaj was the first to implement that in his kingdom in 1902. If thats correct then it were not the british who established this system. But the existing system in our constitution was initiated by Ambedkar in accordance with Poona Pact between him and Gandhi on behalf of congress.

Muslims and other groups are also used as vote banks but there is no reservation for them. Almost all caste/religion groups are used as vote banks by all politicians. Your dislike for congress is understandable but the basis of your hatred is common to all political parties in India and not just congress. But congress deserves the most blame as they were in power most of the times.

 

[vsdave2302]

Indian Secularism is color blind. Even 1000 Hindus are killed today, you won't listen to the hu and cry what you heard in One dadri. look at Gujarat 2002. Nobody talk of 300 Hindus and those 60 burnt alive. Every secular is talking about Muslims only.

 

[nForce]

For your knowledge, the reservation to SC/ST is an outcome of Poona Pact - 1932 between Gandhi and Ambedkar. Post independence governments have nothing to do with that. Secondly, reservations to non SC/ST was introduced by a non congress VP Singh govt. which was supported by BJP.

There was very little corruption before emergency or in first 2 decades of independence. Today no political party or govt is free of corruption.

Indira Gandhi silenced her critics with her ability to govern. Her mettle was prven when she bifurcated Pakistan in 1971. Rajiv Gandhi was the darling of Indians when he took oath in 1984. Then no one talked of family. But its high time congress looks beyond the gandhi family.

Isn't there a relation between the reservation and Ambedkar drafting the Indian Constitution ?

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Because of the GANDHI family and that joker called Rahul Gandhi

 

[magudi]

Muslims and other groups are also used as vote banks but there is no reservation for them.

We have Muslim reservations in Kerala within OBCs.Correct me if i am wrong but similar provisions exist in Karnataka,Bihar,WB,TN also so isn't that reservation ?

 

[FaujHistorian]

There is a popular belief in India that whenever the BJP led NDA alliance comes to power the graph of communal violence and religious intolerance shoots up, mostly because the govt. is then helping to propagate their Hindutva brand of politics led by BJP’s ideological wing RSS agenda of Hinduism (Hindutva) and hard nationalism, which is mostly certified by the “Ghar wapsi” and Babri Masjid. On the other hand the Congress led UPA alliance is more of a secular minded political class which rejects the Hindutva brand and adopt a more socialist approach when it comes to Indian politics. But those who know well will say that Congress too is not a secular party, if we strictly adhere to the dictionary meaning of the word. According to the Oxford dictionary ‘secular’ means, ‘not adhering to religious or spiritual matters’. Congress leaders however frequently invoke religious symbols and idioms when it suits their purpose.

So why is it that we believe that while comparing these two parties Congress appears to be the secular and the left wing types while the BJP is more of a Hindu Nationalist right wing anti-minorities political class. Is it because Indian National Congress was formed during the days of freedom struggle from the British raj.? And most of Its leaders were those who later became the founding fathers of our very own Republic Of India, including those who wrote our constitution and shaped the very basic principles of India as a nation.

While many people believes that BJP is a Political Party dominated by Upper caste Hindus and congress party is the real messiah of lower castes and the minorities, this is more of a divide and rule policy adopted by the British. What we see is a blackmail for secularism which is exercised by the congress to gain popularity among the lower castes and minorities “Vote for us if you do not want BJP to rule because thing are going to be worse for you under them”. By trying to part and marginalise the people on the basis of their castes and then announcing the reservation just before the elections.

It is true that congress corrupt leaders plays the dirty game of using reservation as a tool to draw votebanks. What we have seen 60 years after the independence is extremely corrupt regimes who will overlook its people for pleasing foreign powers and the power concentrated to just one family.

Though we have the highest regards for those congress leaders who fought for this country’s independence and set the foundation of India becoming a self-sustained world largest democracy which is together stronger even after it’s immense diversity, the congress of today is far away from the one that once fought for our freedom.

When I see modern educated Hindu Bharatis' world view.

I realize that the idea of Congress has failed.

In the long run, secularism too is obsolete. As both Congress and secularism do not jibe with the dominant Hindu majority anymore.

I see BJP / RSS ruling Delhi ruling for a long long time (with small insignificant periods of non BJP winners).



Peace

Because of the GANDHI family and that joker called Rahul Gandhi

Off course Congress could have been managed better.

But it is not just the leadership. The very ideals of Congress are obsolete.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Off course Congress could have been managed better.

But it is not just the leadership. The very ideals of Congress are obsolete.

No Congress is still relevant ; India needs TWO STRONG Parties

But they need a Non Gandhi person at the Top

This Gandhi family has had a TOO LONG rule ; it should be evicted

 

[magudi]

In the long run, secularism too is obsolete. As both Congress and secularism do not jibe with the dominant Hindu majority anymore.

Jinnah saw this coming early , he was the ultimate visionary

Modi elected, Jinnah vindicated - The Express Tribune

Even today you see photos of Jinnah and Liyaquat Ali Khan in the homes of Indian Union Muslim League leaders

 

[FaujHistorian]

Jinnah saw this coming early , he was the ultimate visionary

Modi elected, Jinnah vindicated - The Express Tribune

Even today you see photos of Jinnah and Liyaquat Ali Khan in the homes of Indian Union Muslim League leaders

Must resist dragging Pakistan/Jinnah into this.

Must resist dragging Pakistan/Jinnah into this.

Must resist dragging Pakistan/Jinnah into this.

Must resist dragging Pakistan/Jinnah into this.

Must resist dragging Pakistan/Jinnah into this.

Must resist dragging Pakistan/Jinnah into this.

No Congress is still relevant ; India needs TWO STRONG Parties

But they need a Non Gandhi person at the Top

This Gandhi family has had a TOO LONG rule ; it should be evicted

Off course.

Sadly the way I see it, dominant educated Hindu Bharatis no longer believe in Congressi ideals. Gandhi in it or not.

 

[magudi]

Sadly the way I see it, dominant educated Hindu Bharatis no longer believe in Congressi ideals. Gandhi in it or not.

So true , i am amazed that when even people across the border can see the obvious we dont have many within the country who realize this

2014, the year India became a Hindu state