Why do some Pakistanis think they need ICBM?

[friendly_troll96]

Are you serious?

If yes, please tell me. Bangaldesh ne tumhara kya bigada hai?

@Saiful Islam @BDforever @UKBengali @asad71 @monitor @bongbang @Maira La @MBI Munshi

dead serious.
they're the only nation on the planet i actually hate. i cant thank india enough for ridding pakistan of such beautiful people. warna aaj islamabad machhli ki khushboo se atta hota.

Because he is a Troll. What did you expected?

 

[ConcealCarry]

We would prefer to have it and not need it rather need it and not have it

Why do some Pakistanis think they need ICBM?

Do they really have any enemy in any other continent?

When was this idea first stated in public domain? Just who suggested this unnecessary thing?

 

[TMA]

What was the population of iraq? It size and population was and is a fraction of Pakistan's and the country constantly adopted hostile policies towards Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. Americans would have invaded iran but they can't. Saddam was never an american ally. Pakistan is too big for any country to invade it and our foreign relations are strong with many countries. It is not is the U.S's interest to invade pakistan nor does it want to. You just for some reason want pick a fight with the americans when the american or the pakistani military don't want to. A lot of our military equipment comes from the U.S and we have good relations with nato member.

NATO is furthering a 4th GenWar against Pakistan. NATO has been given the task of denuculearizing Pakistan on behalf of the Zionist movement.

 

[SQ8]

No facts just verbose. I wish you could do a better job being a senior member

Pithy personal attacks really only look bad on you. If you feel its verbose, present facts otherwise.

 

[Spectre]

No delivery system will force the US to think twice the day it really wants to put its forces into harms way to teach Pakistan a lesson. They will roll over Pakistan like a hot knife through butter.
The best bullwark is to keep the US engaged and dependent on Pakistan to maintain its commitments to the world.

As for the SSBN, that program will come to light if and when the time is right.

People forget that when threatened US very quickly get's rid of pesky moral compunctions and it's entire societal construct undergoes a fantastically fast metamorphosis from responsible to glutton for destruction. West unlike us Indians and Pakistanis define a objective and then give it all to achieve no matter how many 1000s die. No half measures like us where we posture and prod.

It is quite interesting really - the level of response from west where they level offending countries to dust at will in contrast to pussyfooting by India and Pakistan. You expect when 1.5 billion fight there to be atleast 100,000 deaths but somehow the casualty figures in our wars is way less despite this being a fight b/w relative equals with advanced tech, huge resources and as a bonus have historic hatred b.w the two unlike US rolling over likes of Iraq, Vietnam and Afghanistan

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

ICBM's are not a solution for pakistan---unless it does not have a strong conventional force.

Once you have a strong conventional force---then you won't feel so weak---thus the need for the ICBM's would dissipate.

ICBM's are rather a problem for us---. They will bring more trouble to our doorstep that we will not be able to handle because of our lack of conventional strength.

Too many people are wasting their brain waves and mental energies of doing something with the U S.

You kids need to put your brains to better use by thinking how can you manipulate the U S to do your bidding---.

The effort that is put into slogans against the U S should be diverted for a better use.

 

[Hamza913]

To make diplomacy easier.

 

[Pindi Boy]

@wanglaokan china should sell is JL-2 & DF-41

 

[Viper 94]

NATO is furthering a 4th GenWar against Pakistan. NATO has been given the task of denuculearizing Pakistan on behalf of the Zionist movement.

Did the zionists tell you that

 

[AUz]

People forget that when threatened US very quickly get's rid of pesky moral compunctions and it's entire societal construct undergoes a fantastically fast metamorphosis from responsible to glutton for destruction. West unlike us Indians and Pakistanis define a objective and then give it all to achieve no matter how many 1000s die. No half measures like us where we posture and prod.

It is quite interesting really - the level of response from west where they level offending countries to dust at will in contrast to pussyfooting by India and Pakistan. You expect when 1.5 billion fight there to be atleast 100,000 deaths but somehow the casualty figures in our wars is way less despite this being a fight b/w relative equals with advanced tech, huge resources and as a bonus have historic hatred b.w the two unlike US rolling over likes of Iraq, Vietnam and Afghanistan

You are kidding right?

Pakistan and India haven't fought a freaking all out, years long total war like West has in last century.

High death toll doesn't show the "capability" of fighting machines but rather just the fact of war.

For example, Iran-Iraq fought a total war over a period of decade. Google the casualities.

Indo-Pak most major war was 1965....which only lasted 17 days. Believe me, if India and Pakistan fight a long, drawn out war--the casualities would be immense.

Now, coming to "rolling over" thing--offcourse, the greatest military in history of humanity rolled over Iraq. Nothing more to say.

 

[Spectre]

You are kidding right?

Pakistan and India haven't fought a freaking all out, years long total war like West has in last century.

High death toll doesn't show the "capability" of fighting machines but rather just the fact of war.

For example, Iran-Iraq fought a total war over a period of decade. Google the casualities.

Indo-Pak most major war was 1965....which only lasted 17 days. Believe me, if India and Pakistan fight a long, drawn out war--the casualities would be immense.

Now, coming to "rolling over" thing--offcourse, the greatest military in history of humanity rolled over Iraq. Nothing more to say.

Why haven't they fought years long war? That is the question isn't it. According to Pakistanis

-India is hell bent to assimilate Pakistan in their greater India dreams
- Kashmir is the jugular vein of Pakistan and taking it back from the clutches of India, responsibility of every Pakistanis.
- Their is deep seated hatred in Hindus for Muslims due to centuries long subjugation and which would drive them to take revenge

Still instead of going to the brink and fighting endless wars, we always step back unlike other countries.

 

[war&peace]

Pithy personal attacks really only look bad on you. If you feel its verbose, present facts otherwise.

Smoooth butter hot knife can hardly be taken as facts because if it was that easy, it would have taken place a long time ago. It is good to engage US and for matter every major country but that does not mean Pakistan should not focus on developing its defence capabilities. And acquiring ICBM is not against any country but capability that Pakistan should as part of the natural progression of its missile program, even 2750 km range can hit many countries when fired from different points. Does that mean Pakistan wants to hit all of them with over petty diplomatic issues? No ofcourse not. It is technology demonstration and it can come in the form of GSLV. No missile is born with DNA of enmity against a certain country, it is later assigned to.

 

[SQ8]

Smoooth butter hot knife can hardly be taken as facts because if it was that easy, it would have taken place a long time ago. It is good to engage US and for matter every major country but that does not mean Pakistan should not focus on developing its defence capabilities. And acquiring ICBM is not against any country but capability that Pakistan should as part of the natural progression of its missile program, even 2750 km range can hit many countries when fired from different points. Does that mean Pakistan wants to hit all of them with over petty diplomatic issues? No ofcourse not. It is technology demonstration and it can come in the form of GSLV. No missile is born with DNA of enmity against a certain country, it is later assigned to.

Nothing is easy in modern warfare but a basic track record shows that when against a conventional military force , the US military will cut through with precision. Both paper and experience of forces points to it and it is a cold hard mathematical fact.

Not a SINGLE country in the world acquires a capability just because it can. Every weapon developed from the earliest of times was built for a specific target and the ICBM is no exception. Weapons arent works of art or some B grade movie that is made just because someone felt like it. Even a GSLV has a purpose and isnt built just because someone felt like throwing away millions. Please find me a single instance in history to back up your claim of people building weapons without a specific enemy in mind.

 

[somebozo]

For the very precise reasons Indians think we dont need them and start thread on PDF to troll.

 

[war&peace]

Nothing is easy in modern warfare but a basic track record shows that when against a conventional military force , the US military will cut through with precision. Both paper and experience of forces points to it and it is a cold hard mathematical fact.

Not a SINGLE country in the world acquires a capability just because it can. Every weapon developed from the earliest of times was built for a specific target and the ICBM is no exception. Weapons arent works of art or some B grade movie that is made just because someone felt like it. Even a GSLV has a purpose and isnt built just because someone felt like throwing away millions. Please find me a single instance in history to back up your claim of people building weapons without a specific enemy in mind.

Infact, USA lost war against Vietnam despite killing in millions, it lost terribly. Even without ICBMs Pakistan can do extreme damage to if there is a war especially nukes....You might have heard djinn ki jaan totay (parrot) main hai. GSLV is infact an ICBM and Pakistan needs satellite launching capability peaceful purposes. No nation can object on the development of a satellite launch vehicle sir!!!