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This chart is bullshit!
Because it's all about the selective immigration, as Indian immigrants to Australia are WELL above Indian average due to Australia's strict point-based immigration laws.
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You do realise that the chart is from the very study you quoted in the first post and opened the thread for right? What a muppet
Why doesn't the same logic apply about Chinese immigrants to Australia? Are you telling me they don't have to face the point-based immigration channel?
You got it messed up completely.
1, The OP doesn't include such a chart.
2. I didn't say that I agree with the OP in every word, in fact I disagree with its explanations..
3. Australian Chinese example cited in the OP is also biased. but it doesn't refute (which you take it for granted), neither explain (which the OP hopes), OP's general finding that the Chinese scored the highest.
The OP just doesn't get it why so, neither do you.
The op might not have included the chart, but the study it is referring to does. Fact is when Indian and Chinese kids are put together through the same education system, there is very little that separates the two. We have seen examples from the UK and Australia now.
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As for the rest of the points you raised, I suggest you read the actual study, rather than news articles, before you pass a judgement on how inaccurate or biased the study is.
https://johnjerrim.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/australia_asia_paper.pdf
The op might not have included the chart, but the study it is referring to does. Fact is when Indian and Chinese kids are put together through the same education system, there is very little that separates the two. We have seen examples from the UK and Australia now.
View attachment 128021
As for the rest of the points you raised, I suggest you read the actual study, rather than news articles, before you pass a judgement on how inaccurate or biased the study is.
https://johnjerrim.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/australia_asia_paper.pdf
Don't bother trying to reason with him. He has his own racial agenda, hence vested bias. Plus he is renown troll on PDF, his speciality being Indians.
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selective immigration is mainly true for america. for europe and australia, they don't have selective immigration. otherwise how could you explain all the low iq pakistanis and arabs immigrating there, causing all the crime? the indians who migrate there are by no means cream of the crop, they are the ones who couldn't make it to americaYou can't read , can you?
As I said many times that domestical test scores out of immigration countries such as Australia, UK, US, Canada etc are not credible enough as any objective measure or proof of anything due to selected immigrations, unlike international standard tests such as PISA or TIMASS which measure the average population much more objectively.
They were all orphans? Really?
Do you have a link to the study?
If a Chinese orphan was brought up in some LA ghetto by some gang runners, who didn't care about education, I doubt he would suddenly become Harvard material.
The op might not have included the chart, but the study it is referring to does. Fact is when Indian and Chinese kids are put together through the same education system, there is very little that separates the two. We have seen examples from the UK and Australia now.
View attachment 128021
As for the rest of the points you raised, I suggest you read the actual study, rather than news articles, before you pass a judgement on how inaccurate or biased the study is.
https://johnjerrim.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/australia_asia_paper.pdf
Any studies on cross-cultural adoptions?
Chinese kids growing up in non-Chinese households and vice versa?
Because of Chinese parents.
Look at the top scoring places in the world, Mainland, Hong Kong, Singapore.
It's Chinese parents, anyone with Chinese parents will understand first hand, how much pressure they put on us to be successful.
Both genes and culture play a part. The Indian and Chinese migrant in Europe are self-selectiveThe world is valued by money.
1/4 of Taiwan means stupid, whatever you try to defend it.
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High academic knowledge does not guarantee any job at all. Idea behind studying was originally to gain KNOWLEDGE and apply it in real life. That seems to be missing when we are increasingly educating people to unemployment.
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i agree with you that genetics has a role in it. but if malaysian indians are former dalits, which was the lowest caste (not even part of the caste system)The Malaysian Indians aka former Dalits are not able overcome Malay Islamofascism and now they are full of crime and gangsterism.
Also Singaporean Chinese is a blessing of the entire countries. A stroke of lottery and good fortune that Malays and Indians got such as good chance to be ruled and live side by side with Singaporean Chinese.
In Malaysia where Malay are in charge, it is a cesspool of Islamofascism and racism. In Indian Carribean (guyana), India Africa (Mauritius), there are rampant caste system and I have seen in forum that Indians commented they are being polluted by natives. There are civil wars of due to Indian caste systems in some of those countries because Indian like to discriminate too much.
But Singaporean Chinese are such good people that we anchor the culture and help minorities learn our virtue. By learning with Singaporean Chinese, minorities become better and better people.
i agree with you that genetics has a role in it. but if malaysian indians are former dalits, which was the lowest caste (not even part of the caste system)
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2005 unskilled labor:
chinese 20% vs indian 35%
chinese were ahead of indians, but it's not a huge gap. according to you these indians are the lowest india has to offer in terms of genetics and they make up <20% of the indian population. so if you take the remaining 80+%, they should not be that far behind in terms of academics yes?