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Why did the UAE cancel the $23 billion F-35 deal with the United States? A former ambassador explains

From some of the conditions of the Emirates, for the F-35 deal:

- Transferring some of its technologies
- integrating Emirati munitions
- A special advanced version for the Emirates
- Completely maintaining it inside the country

Any decision to reduce its stealth technology or remove some of its technology will void the deal..

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Israel is the Main factor. U.S.A don't want to give any Arab country with superior tech than Israel. One of the reason U.S.A is reluctant for advance version of f35. U.A.E want restriction free deal.
 
US has backdoor on F-35. It's not rumor, this is confirmed. US ask UAE to keep a blind eye on backdoor, which US can turn F-35 off remotely anytime, anywhere.

I would rather go with China/Russia jet, at least you truly OWN it.

I bet Rafale has backdoor as well.
anything from u.s. or e.u. are sure to have backdoors because both are isreal's husbands and they both wanna protect their shared wife.
 
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They wanted to recognize Israel for free. That's why!
Actually Usrael approved the deal in the Trump era.. this is mainly about the Chinese 5G.. but the UAE won't budge..since it concerns its sovereignty..
 
Wise move. USA products always comes with strings attached. Or there is a catch to it.
 
Wise move. USA products always comes with strings attached. Or there is a catch to it.
The UAE knows and has prepared itself for these eventualities and complications with the US.. it has contracted the Rafale in good numbers..and there was talk about China offering its J-20 as an alternative to the F-35.. But better yet..imagine that SU-75 locally made and equipped with the best European, Chines, Russian technologies.. The Russians BTW are testing flat exhausts now on their heavy strike drone and the SU-57.. that will be a good addition for stealth characteristics..
 
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The UAE's decision to suspend the purchase of F-35 fighters is another sign that Washington's allies are trying to reduce their dependence on US military power, which is dwindling due to stress in a multipolar world, according to several analysts.

Abu Dhabi earlier this week suspended talks over a $23 billion deal to buy 50 F-35 stealth aircraft, as well as drones and advanced munitions. It was said that strict US restrictions to protect the plane from Chinese espionage were the main motivation for the UAE's decision.

A US administration official told reporters last Friday that the two sides were still trying to resolve concerns about the agreement, including some requests made by the UAE during the Trump administration.\

Former UK ambassador to Syria Peter Ford said Washington's "arrogant" demands, such as disabling any capability the plane might have that could harm Israel, gave the UAE good excuses to walk out of the deal.

He added that the UAE hates the threads the US wants to attach that would ensure "even in theory" that the acquisition would not diminish Israel's military superiority.

"The Emiratis, rich but not stupid, used this gaffe as an excuse to stop the deal," Ford said.

Moreover, Ford added, the UAE is not willing to pay a high price for the combat aircraft while modern wars are now about drones, as evidenced by the Iranian attack on a Saudi oil facility in 2019 and Turkey's use of advanced drones to stop the Syrian government from advancing in Idlib last year.

“Even if the deal goes ahead, I would expect the price of the plane now to drop significantly,” the former ambassador said.

A multipolar world Ford also said the US withdrawal from Afghanistan is another development that likely helped change the UAE's thinking about the F-35 deal. “The withdrawal has forced all the Gulf states to realize that making their security entirely dependent on the United States is unwise, and that a détente with Iran is a better way to ensure their security than becoming more and more beholden to the United States,” Ford said.

Historian and political analyst Dan Lazar believes that the main problem for the United States is "imperial overextension" - a fact that allies like the UAE are beginning to fully realize.

Lazar explained that the US military was theoretically equipped to fight a war on two fronts on both sides of the globe. However, he warned, the United States now faces the prospect of fighting on three fronts: the South China Sea / The Taiwan Strait, the Persian Gulf, and in and around the Black Sea. "The weakness of the United States is increasingly evident and other countries are starting to make alternative arrangements in response," Lazar told Sputnik.

Lazar said India's agreement to meet with Russia and China and its recent decision to produce 600,000 AK-203 assault rifles under a Russian license are two examples of this phenomenon. He said recent security talks between Russia and Indonesia fall into the same category, as do the emerging Sino-Iranian military partnership and the new alliance between China and Nicaragua. “All of these are examples of small to medium-sized countries waking up to the fact that the United States is no longer the only player and that they are now free to look for partners elsewhere,” Lazar said.

Unipolarity fades, whether the United States likes it or not.” US tensions with the UAE over F-35s and drones reflected the same general trend. In fact, Lazar said, the UAE has long pursued a relatively independent policy toward the United States, Iran and Saudi Arabia. “This is how Abu Dhabi bucked Washington by supporting [President] Bashar al-Assad in Syria and [Marshal] Khalifa Haftar in Libya and by siding with Russian foreign policy in both countries as well,” Lazar said. It intervened in Yemen and supported the military “coup” in Sudan, both of which are causing panic in Washington.

Lazar cautioned that negotiations over the F-35 sale would certainly continue for the time being, but the UAE's statement this week marked a real change in Washington's standing in the region. He concluded, “There is no doubt that the talks will continue as the two sides try to reach an interim settlement. But the message is clear: Multipolarity has arrived, and the Persian Gulf is no longer an American lake.

https://www.defense-arabic.com/2021/12/19/لماذا-ألغت-الإمارات-صفقة-طائرات-إف-35-بق/
Is the UAE getting TOT for the 80 Rafale F4 ? India was offered TOT for them but I havent heard anywhere that UAE is getting tot.
 
Is the UAE getting TOT for the 80 Rafale F4 ? India was offered TOT for them but I havent heard anywhere that UAE is getting tot.
Knowing that the UAE always seeks ToT in its deals and made it a requirement ..there is certainly a good percentage of ToT..mostly when we are talking about 80 fighter aircraft.. the least we can imagine is the production of spare parts and maintenance locally.. most likely with some systems facilitating the integration of UAE's local munitions and some sophisticated systems to be developed with the UAE in JVs..
 
The UAE knows and has prepared itself for these eventualities and complications with the US.. it has contracted the Rafale in good numbers..and there was talk about China offering its J-20 as an alternative to the F-35.. But better yet..imagine that SU-75 locally made and equipped with the best European, Chines, Russian technologies.. The Russians BTW are testing flat exhausts now on their heavy strike drone and the SU-57.. that will be a good addition for stealth characteristics..
Su57 is still far worse than F-35, https://www.quora.com/How-powerful-...-dogfight-situation-or-protect-Felon-from-BVR after what I have just read this SU-57 already looks obsolete infront of the f-35/f-22 like any other 4th Gen plane.
 
Too many strings attached, such as abandoning Huawei.
UAE is not colony as US/Zoiniest thought.
 
We have already been allowed to use AMRAAM since 2011 with the order of refurbished and upgrade F 16 Block 52. This AMRAMM is similar with the ones using in Singapore F 16 which is AMRAAM C7 and we are also allowed to use the most sophisticated Sidewinder. USA is still allowed us to have F 16 V.




Our old F 16 A/B ( bought in 1989 ) is also now able to launch AMRAAM

Now my words cone true. F-16 dropped. Indonesia never trust the american. They buy rafale, no more F-16. Even Pakistanis stop seeking more F-16, they buy J-10CE.
 
Now my words cone true. F-16 dropped. Indonesia never trust the american. They buy rafale, no more F-16. Even Pakistanis stop seeking more F-16, they buy J-10CE.

F 16 is still being used, and previous batch of 24 F 16 block C/D I believe is planned to be upgraded like first batch of 10 F 16 A/B.

We just buy 6 Rafale, while our program with SK in KF21/IFX has American engine and other US technologies.

Rafale order is for F 5 squadron in Madiun, not an expansion program but rather modernization.

 
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F 16 is still being used, and previous batch of 24 F 16 block C/D I believe is planned to be upgraded like first batch of 10 F 16 A/B.

We just buy 6 Rafale, while our program with SK in KF21/IFX has American engine and other US technologies.

Rafale order is for F 5 squadron in Madiun, not an expansion program but rather modernization.

That is not the long term plan or main force of Indonesia AF. Just like Pakistan AF, F-16 is relegate to second rate aircraft. It will slowly phased out as spare and long term upgrade is not feasible. Even blk 52 model under current context is considered outdated. Everybody is talking about AESA.
 

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