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Why an Indian threat to Pakistan is a myth

It is not really an egg chicken conundrum, if you know what I mean. But then again....

Not at all, not at all, it all stared with india's annexation of Hydrabad and the occupation of Kashmir in 1947. People can vividly remember how it started and who started it.
 
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Not at all, not at all, it all stared with india's annexation of Hydrabad and the occupation of Kashmir in 1947. People can vividly remember how it started and who started it.

India did not start this because it was India that was and remained. People of Hyderabad and Kashmir were Indians. We also helped Bangladesh during liberation but do you have any problem with that? lol
 
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India did not start this because it was India that was and remained. People of Hyderabad and Kashmir were Indians. We also helped Bangladesh during liberation but do you have any problem with that? lol

Yeah, yeah, Pakistan and Bangladesh were also part of india once. The question is how Hydrabad remained with india, how Kashmir has been kept part of your india.
 
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Yeah, yeah, Pakistan and Bangladesh were also part of india once.
At that time there was no Bangladesh and you did not answer my question? Hate that? :lol:

The question is how Hydrabad remained with india, how Kashmir has been kept part of your india.
The same way it happened to all the princely states of India. But Hyderabad has no problem with Pakistan only Kashmir. When Indian soldiers were in Dhaka some asked will hey remain there forever but we left Dhaka so its about India not Pakistan or Bangladesh.
 
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At that time there was no Bangladesh and you did not answer my question? Hate that? :lol:


The same way it happened to all the princely states of India. But Hyderabad has no problem with Pakistan only Kashmir. When Indian soldiers were in Dhaka some asked will hey remain there forever but we left Dhaka so its about India not Pakistan or Bangladesh.

There's one Bangladesh section on this forum, discuss Bangldesh there. The ruler of Hydrabad had expressed his wish to join Pakistan but india did not accept this. If Kashmir is part of india then Hydrabad is part of Pakistan.
 
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Not at all, not at all, it all stared with india's annexation of Hydrabad and the occupation of Kashmir in 1947. People can vividly remember how it started and who started it.
Right. People can vividly remember, but you certainly don't. Hyderabad was annexed a good one year after Kashmir, in 1948. As with annexation of Kashmir, it happened a good 5-6 days after Pakistanis infiltrated the independent Princely State of Jammu & Kashmir. Yes it all started with that illegal attempt by Pakistan to forcefully annex Kashmir and reached its peak when they again tried to militarily annex Kashmir in 1965.

Not an egg-chicken conundrum there.
 
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Right. People can vividly remember, but you certainly don't. Hyderabad was annexed a good one year after Kashmir, in 1948. As with annexation of Kashmir, it happened a good 5-6 days after Pakistanis infiltrated the independent Princely State of Jammu & Kashmir. Yes it all started with that illegal attempt by Pakistan to forcefully annex Kashmir and reached its peak when they again tried to militarily annex Kashmir in 1965.

Not an egg-chicken conundrum there.

Yes, after one year the great indians decided to put hydrabad into their pocket because the population was mostly Hindus but a only year ago while grabbing kashmir they did not consider the fact that kashmiris were mostly Muslims and wanted to join Pakistan.
 
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Three things that seem incorrect:

There is no doubt that India cannot and will not attempt to maintain its presence in Pakistan, in case of war. The issue here is the destruction that India will seek to inflict on Pakistan in a relatively short time and then head for the exit. That is why we need to stop the advance before it crosses the border, hence the security concerns.

Let us look at the issue rationally.

Can India totally destroy Pakistan?

No. There is not a hope in hell. And there are many good reasons that such a theory is totally bogus and impractical, apart from being impossible.

Is that be so, why and when will India attack Pakistan, if indeed it does?

1. If there is Pakistani actions like Op Gibraltar of 1965 or Kargil.
2. If there is another Mumbai type of carnage.
3. Or make the terrorism in Kashmir cost prohibitive.

India has a whole lot of problems of her own and Pakistan has more.

So, what will India gain by attacking Pakistan? She cannot retain any land captured, it will have to be returned. Likewise, for Pakistan. Therefore, any war will be of no use to either India or Pakistan.

In Kashmir, why should Pakistan make the situation unbearable for India so that India attacks. Who know what will be the outcome. Right now, by bleeding India by a 1000 cuts it is keep India totally occupied and much money of India is being employed unproductively.

As far as what is known as Cold Start in the media, it is of concern to Pakistan. Pakistan will take necessary actions to ensure it does not seriously affect it, but because of Cold Start, when it has not been applied, will Pakistan go to war? I don't think so.


I don't know if the US will provide any level of security to Pakistan. It is there to protect US interests in the region esp. the movement of oil and keep a presence close to Iran. There is no reason for India to see the US with Pakistan because it is not a reality.

It is not that US will side Pakistan because of any extra love for Pakistan. In fact, the US will side with none. It is only that the US will ensure any war is stopped since they are petrified that it can lead to a nuclear exchange. That is why the US will take interest.

This matter is highly dubious. That man has been changing stance and it would not serve India's purpose to give him the spotlight. In the event of Headley's testimony being considered doubtful and contradictory, India's global image will be affected for actively promoting Headley's name.

And the article makes for an interesting read. I may not agree with it, but it's still worth it.

About the ISI link to David Headley, it is mentioned in the book, “Inside Al-Qaeda and the Taliban: Beyond Bin Laden and 9/11″, by the journalist of Pakistan, Mr Shahzad, who has been killed.

It was also said by the ex Foreign Secretary of Pakistan, Mr Shahayar Khan in his intereview.

That the ISI has links with the AQ has evidence in the PNS Mehran raid and for which Shahzad was killed!

so u think they work in afghanistan???

Yes, there are construction going on by India, there are Indians who are Afghani citizens historically, there are businessmen.

One indian colonel telling Pakistan that india is not a threat to Pakistan and some jackals are there to join the chorus! Indians think that since uncle sam is behind them lies are cheaper today.

Jackals?

Is this a soliloquy?

Or self revelation?

is this ur uncle sam?

Is this your Uncle Sam?

They love to act under a false flag! It gives them a sense of security.

OK, if you say so.

By what is your insecurity even when flying your true flag?
 
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Not at all, not at all, it all stared with india's annexation of Hydrabad and the occupation of Kashmir in 1947. People can vividly remember how it started and who started it.

And you were born then!

Yeah, yeah, Pakistan and Bangladesh were also part of india once. The question is how Hydrabad remained with india, how Kashmir has been kept part of your india.

And how you are keeping the Chittagong Hill Tracts, right?

Demographic change and all.

Learning from your friends, the Chinese, right?

There's one Bangladesh section on this forum, discuss Bangldesh there. The ruler of Hydrabad had expressed his wish to join Pakistan but india did not accept this. If Kashmir is part of india then Hydrabad is part of Pakistan.

Raise an issue and then the discussion starts.

Subsections are cast to the winds!

That is the irony!

Yes, after one year the great indians decided to put hydrabad into their pocket because the population was mostly Hindus but a only year ago while grabbing kashmir they did not consider the fact that kashmiris were mostly Muslims and wanted to join Pakistan.

I am glad you realise Indians are great. Thank you.

Do you realise how many Muslims are in India?

Isn't it good that they have remained?
we know how biggest cowards are you and how big threat are you but we will make part of history very soon

Indeed.

A Daniel Come to Judgement!

Or are you James Stewart?
 
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Three things that seem incorrect:

There is no doubt that India cannot and will not attempt to maintain its presence in Pakistan, in case of war. The issue here is the destruction that India will seek to inflict on Pakistan in a relatively short time and then head for the exit. That is why we need to stop the advance before it crosses the border, hence the security concerns.

Let us look at the issue rationally.

Can India totally destroy Pakistan?

No. There is not a hope in hell. And there are many good reasons that such a theory is totally bogus and impractical, apart from being impossible.

Is that be so, why and when will India attack Pakistan, if indeed it does?

1. If there is Pakistani actions like Op Gibraltar of 1965 or Kargil.
2. If there is another Mumbai type of carnage.
3. Or make the terrorism in Kashmir cost prohibitive.

India has a whole lot of problems of her own and Pakistan has more.

So, what will India gain by attacking Pakistan? She cannot retain any land captured, it will have to be returned. Likewise, for Pakistan. Therefore, any war will be of no use to either India or Pakistan.

In Kashmir, why should Pakistan make the situation unbearable for India so that India attacks. Who know what will be the outcome. Right now, by bleeding India by a 1000 cuts it is keep India totally occupied and much money of India is being employed unproductively.

As far as what is known as Cold Start in the media, it is of concern to Pakistan. Pakistan will take necessary actions to ensure it does not seriously affect it, but because of Cold Start, when it has not been applied, will Pakistan go to war? I don't think so.




It is not that US will side Pakistan because of any extra love for Pakistan. In fact, the US will side with none. It is only that the US will ensure any war is stopped since they are petrified that it can lead to a nuclear exchange. That is why the US will take interest.



About the ISI link to David Headley, it is mentioned in the book, “Inside Al-Qaeda and the Taliban: Beyond Bin Laden and 9/11″, by the journalist of Pakistan, Mr Shahzad, who has been killed.

It was also said by the ex Foreign Secretary of Pakistan, Mr Shahayar Khan in his intereview.

That the ISI has links with the AQ has evidence in the PNS Mehran raid and for which Shahzad was killed!



Yes, there are construction going on by India, there are Indians who are Afghani citizens historically, there are businessmen.



Jackals?

Is this a soliloquy?

Or self revelation?



Is this your Uncle Sam?



OK, if you say so.

By what is your insecurity even when flying your true flag?

you indians have old habit of hitting from and we are not stupid to read and believe what your retired Army has to say we know about your cowardness
 
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you indians have old habit of hitting from and we are not stupid to read and believe what your retired Army has to say we know about your cowardness

Why are you frothing at the bit?

Come to the point.

Otherwise, it become merely an exercise to release bile from an overworked spleen!
 
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we know how biggest cowards are you and how big threat are you but we will make part of history very soon

you indians have old habit of hitting from and we are not stupid to read and believe what your retired Army has to say we know about your cowardness


Not a particularly smart thing to suggest that an enemy that has gotten the better of a you at least a couple of times is known for its cowardice. Does not reflect well on an army & a country that fared poorly against the "cowards".
 
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