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WHO WAS BEHIND LAHORE 3/3 Terror Attacks

Did anything come up yet?
I read on some news that 60 guys were rounded up for suspected involvement. This is another problem in countries like ours. Investigators, to cover their inability, tend to hold SOME 12 guys and blame it on them if they could not find anyone real.

May be these guys are those that were trained with Ajmal but did not take the boat to Mumbai. If I remember it right and the report was right, 35 guys were trained in all. Only 10 attacked Mumbai.
 
Did anything come up yet?
I read on some news that 60 guys were rounded up for suspected involvement. This is another problem in countries like ours. Investigators, to cover their inability, tend to hold SOME 12 guys and blame it on them if they could not find anyone real.

May be these guys are those that were trained with Ajmal but did not take the boat to Mumbai. If I remember it right and the report was right, 35 guys were trained in all. Only 10 attacked Mumbai.

Be patient my young padewan!

Investigation is on-going, the culprits have left enough viable & traceable evidence behind to nab them pretty soon. The suspects arrested are those whose names have come up in the back trace of the materials left behind in the said attack. It is now obvious that unlike the Mumbai attackers, these paid assassins were neither too motivated nor not too keen to lay down their lives for the cause! They were perhaps in a too much hurry to leave and to collect the hefty payment from their 'foreign' handler after successfully creating an international incident.
 
BBC report.. They doubts everybody, the last paragraph is quite interesting..

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Who carried out the Lahore attack?
By M Ilyas Khan
BBC News, Islamabad

Who could have done it?

Details of the attack in Lahore are still sketchy, but the video footage is a stark reminder of the November attacks in the Indian city of Mumbai, in which about 10 suspected militants held the city hostage for three days.

On Tuesday, a similar number of men staged an equally audacious attack. They ambushed the bus that was taking the visiting Sri Lankan cricket team to the stadium for a match with Pakistan.

Though the targets of the two attacks were vastly different, the attacks themselves were both spectacularly staged against high-value targets and made international headlines.

The style of these attacks is also reminiscent of an attack by a group of militants on the Indian parliament in the winter of 2001.

Even scores?

The Indian authorities blamed that attack - and the Mumbai assault - on a Pakistan-based militant group, Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT).

After some procrastination, the Pakistani authorities also endorsed the Indian claim in relation to the Mumbai attacks, saying at least nine men affiliated with LeT had sailed out from its southern port city, Karachi, to attack the Indian financial hub.

It has arrested several top LeT leaders in connection with that attack.

Could it be, then, that the LeT has turned back on Pakistan to even scores?

LeT is one of a number of militant groups that are believed to have been raised, trained and funded by the Pakistani security apparatus to fight Indian troops in the disputed region of Kashmir.

It is generally considered to be sympathetic to Pakistani security interests in the region - and analysts doubt that it would try to destabilise a Pakistani government unless it had been given a nod from within the security establishment.

That establishment has been blamed in the past for using militants, especially sectarian outfits, to destabilise civilian governments during the 1990s.

The attack in Lahore has happened at a time when a civilian government is in power after eight years of military rule.

'Rogue' elements

The government has made some diplomatic concessions to India which the military - which considers India as the enemy - may not like.

In addition, the air of reconciliation that was born at election time a year ago is giving way to political discord, with anti-government agitation brewing in the Punjab province, where the attack took place.

So, have the suspected "rogue" elements in the security establishment decided to rock the boat for a government that appears increasingly vulnerable to the threat posed by militants?

Some in international quarters have suggested that Sri Lanka's Tamil Tigers separatist group could possibly be involved in the attack.

The Tigers have been conducting an insurgency in the northern parts of Sri Lanka since the mid-1980s and are currently losing ground to the Sri Lankan army.

In recent weeks, the Tigers have seen key towns fall to the military, prompting many to speculate that it is the beginning of the end of their insurgency.

But could the Sri Lankan rebel group make a desperate move like this one to stage a comeback?

Analysts say they are not known to have operated in Pakistan in the past, and do not have the kind of logistics and network in the region that they would require to stage an attack of this nature.

Besides, they are unlikely to blow up the entire Sri Lanka team - as the attackers tried to do by lobbing grenades under their bus - because it also includes ethnic Tamils.

Assassination

Another potential suspect are the Pakistani Taleban, or Islamist militants who are conducting a bloody insurgency in the north-west of the country.

They have been blamed, or claimed responsibility, for a number of equally spectacular attacks in Pakistan in the past.

One of the groups was even accused by the government of having carried out the December 2007 assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.

But they largely depend on suicide attacks or remote-controlled improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and their targets have been either state officials or members of rival sects.

Al-Qaeda, which many believe to be an umbrella organisation of most militant groups active in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Kashmir, appears to have had a role in planning previous attacks against high-profile targets in Pakistan, such as foreign dignitaries.

Many security analysts suspect its role in a number of bombings against restaurants and foreign missions in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad.

Analysts say al-Qaeda considers an Islamic Pakistan as essential to its pan-Islamist ambitions. It has been at odds with successive Pakistani governments because of their "pro-West" policies.

Meanwhile, many Pakistani ex-military security analysts claim that Tuesday's attack might be the handiwork of the Indian intelligence service, Research and Analysis Wing (Raw).

Some of them, such as former intelligence chief Lt Gen Hamid Gul, also blame Raw for the Mumbai attacks. There is no evidence to support such a claim.

Gen Gul and others point out that both these attacks have put Pakistan in a bad light and eroded its ability to withstand international pressure in matters pertaining to its national interests.

This, they believe, is part of a plot by India to undermine Pakistan.

Pakistan has ordered a high-level investigation into the Lahore attack, with President Asif Zardari pledging that the perpetrators should be revealed.

If this happens, it would be unprecedented.

Militant attacks in all parts of the world have been investigated and solved, but Pakistan is yet to solve even one out of the hundreds of attacks it has suffered since the 1980s.
 
Unseen Lahore attack footage, i wished people had guns with them they would have shot these sick fucks themselves:angry:

guys, hold on a second, do u guys see the brown shalwar kameez guy, Pakistani men donot wear Kameez that long, i have seen indian men and women wearing Kameez the length similar to the brown shalwar kameez guy in the video:angry:

http://www.********.com/view?i=157_1236129241
 
Please lets stop pointing fingers just because of someones Kameez length. We really need to stop this denial. No doubt that a foreign hand could be involved. We really need to wake up and deal with this head on.
We will have to make difficult decisions ahead. We Pakistanis need to form a consensus and root out this militant ideology. There is no room for it in Pakistan or anywhere else.
 
some people suggested here that as RPGs are used ind india so the attackes are india and they were in indian dress.i think its more easier to get weapon from pakistan than carrying these from india.weapons are sold in pakistan like toys.so we dont need to bring these heavy weapons from india.and regarding dress,they were not in fashion show to show india dresses.please do som mental check-ups
 
It is clear there was no one following terrorists due to fear or pre-planned.They went on motorcycles.Now let me explain this point.No terrrorist would like to use bikes as they can be easily shooted from behind if any police was following them.So was it that they knew no body would be following them.Otherwise why did they used bikes.It was clearly a plan of ISI done to divert attention from Mumbai attack and to defame RAW.
 
Is Chris Broad dumb and blind? Police abandoning them??!?!!? What about the dead Policemen? What a tool.
 
Police fled in deadly Pak ambush, says Chris Broad

Manchester, March 04: Match referee Chris Broad accused Pakistani police of abandoning the convoy carrying Sri Lanka's cricket team as a deadly militant ambush began, and video released Wednesday showed gunmen apparently escaping on an empty street as other attackers casually walked away.

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The allegations by Chris Broad were denied by Pakistani cricket and government officials, who pointed out that six police officers died in the attack Tuesday by up to 14 assailants toting assault rifles, grenades and at least one rocket launcher.

Officers said their manhunt Wednesday for the attackers was making little headway.

On Wednesday, new video from a surveillance camera broadcast on local TV showed several attackers apparently escaping along a deserted side street on motorcycles while carrying weapons. Three were also shown walking down the middle of the street, apparently in no hurry, indicating they did not believe police were in the area or hunting them down.

"There was not a sign of a policeman anywhere," Broad, the referee, said Wednesday after his arrival back in Britain. "They had clearly left the scene and left us to be sitting ducks." He did not say how long his van was stationary. Other witnesses described police and the gunmen trading fire for around 15 minutes during the attack, but at least one of the players said the gunmen appeared to fire at will.

"They were not under pressure ... nobody was firing at them," said team captain Mahela Jayawardene said.

The attack in the eastern city of Lahore came at a time of mounting political turmoil in the nuclear-armed country and added to fears it was losing the battle against Islamist extremists blamed for a series of high-profile attacks.

There are also concerns over whether Pakistani police will be able to bring the perpetrators to justice — underscored by conflicting accounts of the investigation offered Wednesday. One police official said several suspects had been taken into custody, though none of the gunmen was tracked down. Hours later, however, another official denied anyone had been arrested.

Broad was traveling in a van in the same convoy as the Sri Lankan team bus, which stopped for around 1 1/2 minutes as gunfire rang out before speeding to the stadium.

His driver was killed and a fellow official was shot and critically injured.

Broad said Pakistani officials had promised "presidential-style security" but "it was not there when we needed it."

"How can Chris Broad say this when six policemen were killed?" Pakistan Cricket Board chief Ijaz Butt told The Associated Press. He declined further comment until he had a chance to speak to Broad.

The convoy transporting the Sri Lankan team and cricket officials was surrounded by police vehicles at the front, rear and side, and traveled the same route each day of the five-day test match against Pakistan's national team, according to officials.

Lahore police Chief Haji Habibur Rehman said police raided locations in Lahore and surrounding districts and arrested "some suspects." He gave no details of their alleged roles, or the precise number detained, but said some were picked up at a Lahore hostel, where bloodstained clothes were also found.

He added: "So far we have not made any headway toward the perpetrators."

Later, Salah ud Din Niazi, the officer in charge of the probe, told The Associated Press no arrests had been made and no one had been questioned.

None of the gunmen was killed, and all apparently escaped into this teeming city after a gunbattle with the convoy's security detail.

Pakistani police have a poor record of investigating terrorist attacks and often round up people in the immediate aftermath of assaults who are never charged, or release contradictory information.

Islamist militants are widely suspected in the attack, but authorities have not explicitly stated this.

Veteran Sri Lanka spinner Muttiah Muralitharan said the bus was chaos during the attack.

"All the while bullets were being sprayed at our bus, people around me were shouting," he said.

But Jayawardene added that growing up in Sri Lanka, which has seen scores of terrorist attacks in the country's civil war, meant the players had a "natural instinct" that made them immediately hit the floor at the first sound of gunfire.

"We are used to hearing, seeing these things. Firing, bombings. So we ducked under our seats when the firing began," he told reporters.

The attack ended Pakistan's hopes of hosting international cricket teams — or any high-profile sports events — for months, if not years. Even before Tuesday, most squads chose not to tour the cricket-obsessed country for security reasons.

Pakistan has a web of militant networks, some with links to al-Qaida and the Taliban, which have staged other strikes in a bid to destabilize the government and punish it for its support of the U.S.-led invasion of neighboring Afghanistan.

The assault bore many similarities to last November's three-day hostage drama in the Indian financial capital of Mumbai, and one group likely to fall under suspicion is Lashkar-e-Taiba, the network blamed for the attacks, when 10 gunmen targeted luxury hotels, a Jewish center and other sites, killing 164 people.

The group has been targeted by Pakistani authorities since then, and its stronghold is in eastern Pakistan.

In addition to the six police officers, a driver of a vehicle in the convoy was also killed. Seven Sri Lankan players, a Pakistani umpire and a coach from Britain were wounded, none with life-threatening injuries.

Stop trolling and stop posting the same BS post in every thread. You wanted to make a point and we got it.
 
Is Chris Broad dumb and blind? Police abandoning them??!?!!? What about the dead Policemen? What a tool.

What are you talking about? He's a survivor and was there. Just cause 6 police died which doesn't mean they did so honorably or saving anybody. They could have just as easily been cut down running away or in the inital ambush.

What is fact is that they all ran away and whats worse is that they let these guys in b/itch clothes Salwars get away on little mopeds. How is that possible? ALL OF THEM. Not one dead.

"At some stage an elite policeman went into the van and ended lying on top of me. It was not a particularly brave thing for him to do.

"I told him he must get us away but he said in broken English that he could not drive.

"Eventually another policeman opened the front door and he took the driver out unceremoniously and dumped him on the floor and drove us to the ground."

He doesn't know how to drive??? This after they promised Presidential security. Unbelievable.

As usual its the people who don't matter that are the true heroes like the Bus driver.
 
iamunique;317014@Omar & Bill: Just like your foreign minister told us after 26/11 - "GIVE US PROOF THAT WE DID IT". Send over a dossier and we'll look into it.[/QUOTE said:
Enough with dossiers ... Pakistan should reply in the language which India understands.
 
Militant attacks in all parts of the world have been investigated and solved, but Pakistan is yet to solve even one out of the hundreds of attacks it has suffered since the 1980s

So who was behind Mohandas Gandhi assasanation?

Solving a crime should follow punishement ... Why is India's biggest terrorist not behind bar?

What about Sanjay Dutt? He is convicted by a court but he is running for elections in UP! :yahoo:

ONLY IN INDIA
 
Two suspects accused of liberty ambush held
Updated at: 0320 PST, Thursday, March 05, 2009

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LAHORE: Investigation agencies claimed capturing as many as five suspects including two persons, accused of having involvement in Sri Lankan team assault, from Lahore and other cities of Punjab, Geo News reported on Wednesday.

According to sources, suspects had been residing in Lahore for some days and were being assisted from various cities of the province including Lahore.

Investigation agencies narrowed search operations monitoring selective suspected places following the information they sought from various secrets sources and launched several raids. As a result, five suspects were nabbed, sources added.

Also, sources confirmed involvement of Indian spy agency RAW in Lahore attacks as per preliminary investigation.

It is likely that agencies will make available investigative report on Lahore attack within 18 hours, sources predicted.

Two suspects accused of liberty ambush held - GEO.tv
 
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