Who is Ahead in Asia's Carrier Arms Race?

[sincity]

India doesn't have the capacity to force US naval force out of the Indian ocean, India navy can't control the Indian ocean as long as US navy around.

No problem but a 45,000 ton AC , a 37000 - 40000 ton AC and a 65000 ton + AC will by 2024. Not to mention 4 - 5 Flattop LPDs as well. Not no. 1 but no. 2 and making China's existance miserable by helping USA is sweet.

Only way India to compete against China is to boot licking the US and piggy back ride on the US military might.

Indian too much chest thumping.

 

[sincity]

USA is your daddy why insult your baapuji? They are giving you 3 rusted OHPs as farewell gift.

Our strength is our resilience and unconquerable will which allows us to achieve wonders even with worst of circumstaces. The AC , Nuke subs are all templates to that.

USA has more warfleet tonnage than next 11 Navies combined. China is just painting itself into a corner by inviting more enemies.

I don't speak or understand your India subcontinent language, wrote in English that i can understand and what is BAAPUJI?

 

[sincity]

I don't speak or understand your India subcontinent language, wrote in English that i can understand and what is BAAPUJI?

Sorry to bust your Indian pride, Indian unconquerable will was stepped on and trample by the British after they fully conolonize the India subcontinent.

 

[DarkElf]

US is number one by large margin with 10 Super Carrier and another 10 'amphibious assault ship' that as big as another country carrier.

Korea also plan to build 2 light carrier and several amphibious assault ship/LHD that can launch F-35B
S. Korea Envisions Light Aircraft Carrier | Defense News | defensenews.com

 

[sincity]

US will always remain the most powerful naval force on earth.

 

[CN.Black]

No problem but a 45,000 ton AC , a 37000 - 40000 ton AC and a 65000 ton + AC will by 2024. Not to mention 4 - 5 Flattop LPDs as well. Not no. 1 but no. 2 and making China's existance miserable by helping USA is sweet.

1.China has had 1 65000ton AC and 3 20000ton LPD now.By 2024,PLAN will be much more stronger.Maybe PLAN will have 5 AC in 2024.
2.IN is far from PLAN in destroyers,frigates and sumarines.The most advanced DDG of IN is dehli class,which is far way from 052B,051C and 052C,though the more advanced P15 is under construction,but 052D will enter service soon,and 055 will soon be luanched.PLAN has over 60 submarines,12 in which are powered by nuclear reactors.
3.Considering the gap of GDP and military budget between China and India,it is impossible for IN to beat PLAN in future.
4.IN is 300000 tons in total,while PLAN is over 1000000 tons now.
5.Most PLAN warships are 100% domestic built,while IN warships depends on imported equipments.

 

[CN.Black]

ok pick one

if

Chinese - your country was raped by Japan and Russia.

Pakistani - you were once part of erstwhile trampled India.

Others - Use the one half good thing b/w your 2 ears.



8 nuke subs actually. Diesel ones are useless actually as they don't have endurance to sustain fight here. 5 AC? it takes 8 years to build one!

055 is conceptual, same as p15B. In fact now with modular approach both will be built at same time.
GDP wise your growth by 2020 6-7%, USA 5-6%, India 7-8%.

Totally wrong,Noone knows how many nuclear subs PLAN has,but 5 091(3 in service),1 092 ,4 093 and 4 094 has been identified,and more SSN and SSBN are in construction.
I dont know how much time China will need to build an AC.But I know India needs over 10 years to build an DDG,while we only need 2 years.And the American ACs usually need 3 years to build.Also,we have two warship producer CSSC and CSIC,both can build AC.It is said that 2 ACs will be built in Shanghai and Dalian at the same time.
Even your forecasting of GDP growth speed are right,the GDP of China will still be several times of India in 2024.And your forecasting is obviously wrong.

ok pick one

if

Chinese - your country was raped by Japan and Russia.

Pakistani - you were once part of erstwhile trampled India.

Others - Use the one half good thing b/w your 2 ears.



8 nuke subs actually. Diesel ones are useless actually as they don't have endurance to sustain fight here. 5 AC? it takes 7-8 years to build one (USA)!

055 is conceptual, same as p15B. P15 is ready now, wait was for Barak 8.
In fact now with modular approach both will be built at same time.

GDP wise your growth by 2020 6-7%, USA 5-6%, India 7-8%.

Anyway GTG, lunch time.

055 is a 12000 ton CG,which has 128 VLS and the updated type 346 AESA radar.055 will be much more stronger than P15A and P15B,and when P15B entered service,we would have at least 10 055s.

 

[sincity]

ok pick one

if

Chinese - your country was raped by Japan and Russia.

Pakistani - you were once part of erstwhile trampled India.

Others - Use the one half good thing b/w your 2 ears.



8 nuke subs actually. Diesel ones are useless actually as they don't have endurance to sustain fight here. 5 AC? it takes 7-8 years to build one (USA)!

055 is conceptual, same as p15B. P15 is ready now, wait was for Barak 8.
In fact now with modular approach both will be built at same time.

GDP wise your growth by 2020 6-7%, USA 5-6%, India 7-8%.

Anyway GTG, lunch time.

The problems China didn't surrender to Japan during the WW2 not unlike with your national flag, surrender in the 1962 war against China, Japan raped and tortured the innocent Chinese in WW2, Chinese I believe won't ever forget what kind of atrocity committed on them by the Japanese, as for Russian when did Russia conquer and raped China in the past?

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Sorry to bust your Indian pride, Indian unconquerable will was stepped on and trample by the British after they fully conolonize the India subcontinent.

History proves even society was colonised one day or other, Entire china was won by Mangoles, US was British.

in future UK was also colonised by Islamic fundamentalist. Every society has rise and down in history.

The problems China didn't surrender to Japan during the WW2 not unlike with your national flag, surrender in the 1962 war against China, Japan raped and tortured the innocent Chinese in WW2, Chinese I believe won't ever forget what kind of atrocity committed on them by the Japanese, as for Russian when did Russia conquer and raped China in the past?

what about Genghis Khan? didn't those nomad people conquer whole china?

Why did Chinese run away when Main Indian army reached from station to Border?

Why chinese declare ceasefire? because they afraid now Indian army will come and killed them so better do ceasefire. IN batter never happens victor says ceasefire until he was not sure then he is going to defeat by.

Killing few border post observers by huge army is not a winning a war but later withdraw when seeing whole army coming is defeat.

Moreover
India Oil well and ships in South china sea , Dare Chinese to come close to them like they did with japan?

 

[sincity]

History proves even society was colonised one day or other, Entire china was won by Mangoles, US was British.

in future UK was also colonised by Islamic fundamentalist. Every society has rise and down in history.

Problems with your view on history of China being conquer by mongrel for over 50's but later China totally rule Mongolian for over 1000 yrs and not after the WW2 outer Mongolia with the help of Russia declare their own independent. India subcontinent conquer by the British but couldn't gain any land expansion from the British but China did occupy Mongolian territory after the Mongol invasion, China end up as a winner after being conquer, I can't say Indian gain any territory from the British after they left the subcontinent.

 

[Varunastra]

US will always remain the most powerful naval force on earth.

people used to say the same thing about Britain when the Royal navy was the strongest but now they are more like a green water navy

 

[sincity]

people used to say the same thing about Britain when the Royal navy was the strongest but now they are more like a green water navy

You can thankfully for the Hitler and the German in the WW2 that destroyed the British empire.

History proves even society was colonised one day or other, Entire china was won by Mangoles, US was British.

in future UK was also colonised by Islamic fundamentalist. Every society has rise and down in history.


what about Genghis Khan? didn't those nomad people conquer whole china?

Why did Chinese run away when Main Indian army reached from station to Border?

Why chinese declare ceasefire? because they afraid now Indian army will come and killed them so better do ceasefire. IN batter never happens victor says ceasefire until he was not sure then he is going to defeat by.

Killing few border post observers by huge army is not a winning a war but later withdraw when seeing whole army coming is defeat.

Moreover
India Oil well and ships in South china sea , Dare Chinese to come close to them like they did with japan?

Fact are fact, India surrender and the Chinese still have the video document of Indian troop surrender with the whole division intact during the 1962 war.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Totally wrong,Noone knows how many nuclear subs PLAN has,but 5 091(3 in service),1 092 ,4 093 and 4 094 has been identified,and more SSN and SSBN are in construction.
I dont know how much time China will need to build an AC.But I know India needs over 10 years to build an DDG,while we only need 2 years.And the American ACs usually need 3 years to build.Also,we have two warship producer CSSC and CSIC,both can build AC.It is said that 2 ACs will be built in Shanghai and Dalian at the same time.
Even your forecasting of GDP growth speed are right,the GDP of China will still be several times of India in 2024.And your forecasting is obviously wrong.


055 is a 12000 ton CG,which has 128 VLS and the updated type 346 AESA radar.055 will be much more stronger than P15A and P15B,and when P15B entered service,we would have at least 10 055s.

Well , P-15A is only to destroy ships with Super Sonic ASM and air defence role, while the role of 055 is quite different. Bigger ships is aways easy to target.

 

[Genesis]

Probably India, India has two carriers and experience, while ours right now is not operational, I mean it is, but the battle group has not seen too many exercises to be effective. It's only been a year. You need longer to learn to cook.

But as we go forward it will obviously be China.

166 Billion a year is no joke. Soon we will reach 200 then 300 billion most likely within 12 years.


Carrier groups need subs, numerous other escort and supply ships, fighters, helicopters, and well trained officers and sailors.

These can only be acquired through money, and right now we got the money.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

You can thankfully for the Hitler and the German in the WW2 that destroyed the British empire.

Fact are fact, India surrender and the Chinese still have the video document of Indian troop surrender with the whole division intact during the 1962 war.

Those video who saw surrender is the army border personal who are manned the post that time. every border post have 8-10 person manning it. And they surrender , nothing great in it. 8-10 personal fight as much as they can and when their ammunition ran out they surrender.

BUT why Chinese run away when Indian Army mobilise it Army from its bases in India and started to reach border?

Why dose Winning army return back when they saw Entire Indian army coming?