Who are the Israelites & Jews and Who is their real Target

[Hussein]

Not only Sefevid, here an example of incident during Qajar dynasty:

Allahdad incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Persian Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nadir Shah (1736–1747) allowed Jews to settle in the Shi'ite holy city of Mashhad. However, following his murder many Jews were massacred in Mashhad, and survivors were forcibly converted, in an event known as Allahdad incident. they become known as "Jadid al-Islams" (new converts) and appeared to superficially accept the new religion, but in fact lived their lives as Crypto-Jews. The community permanently left Iran in 1946 and still lives as a tightly knit community in Israel today

wiki is a good summary
life of Jews in Iran could be better but they are not terrible mistreated

 

[somebozo]

I have a feeling that all the hardline mullahs are crypto-jews tasked with destruction of Islam.

 

[mikkix]

Thats myth. Jews were third class citizens, they had to pay jizyan and were subject to humiliaton. Jews could not ride horse or camel, build houses taller than Muslim, when entering Muslim quarter they had to remove shoes and walk barefoot. Even infamous yellow badge for Jews is Islamic invention not Nazi. There were massacres and forced conversions too. For example in 1066 in vaunted Muslim Spain, Grandada were massacred 5,000 Jews. In 1679 Yemen Jews were faced before choice: convert to Islam or being expelled to desert. Wast majority chosed to be expelled, later they were allowed to return, but 2/3 died and virtually all their property lost.

Jizyan was treated as TAX in islamic system....
Are you not paying any tax now??? you do paying it...
So whats the problem with Jizyan...

There is no humiliation of Jews in Caliphate system and in other religious empires,,,,
Spain is the biggest example dude,, muslims rule the Spain with justice,,,you really need to learn history...
the biggest holocaust that jews were faced through Pope of Roman Empire,,,Byzantine empire,Nazi forces(doubtful) and the crusaders of europe when reached Jerusalem...

 

[mikkix]

If you talk about religion. According to Islam all nations recieved prophets from God who teached them monotheism. But Jews are only nation which preserved monotheism. So before attacking Jews look at yourself.

As a Monotheist I really respect you for that matter,,,Muslims and Jews are only Monotheist religion that exists now..

 

[mikkix]

I have a feeling that all the hardline mullahs are crypto-jews tasked with destruction of Islam.

They are the NADAN DOST of Islam not all Mullah's but most of them.
The problem is with our education system..
We are divided into matriculate, Cambridge and Madrassah system..
we should introduce one education system that educates modern education knowledge with religious education.
State should promote science and modern education in Madrassah and prioritize religious education in Matriculate system..
I feel Arabic should be must for All instead of regional languages in Pakistan not because I like Arabic culture but only because to learn what Quran really teaches you so then we don't need any Mullah..
Quran is itself a Social, Law, Political and economic System.

 

[somebozo]

Thats myth. Jews were third class citizens, they had to pay jizyan and were subject to humiliaton. Jews could not ride horse or camel, build houses taller than Muslim, when entering Muslim quarter they had to remove shoes and walk barefoot. Even infamous yellow badge for Jews is Islamic invention not Nazi. There were massacres and forced conversions too. For example in 1066 in vaunted Muslim Spain, Grandada were massacred 5,000 Jews. In 1679 Yemen Jews were faced before choice: convert to Islam or being expelled to desert. Wast majority chosed to be expelled, later they were allowed to return, but 2/3 died and virtually all their property lost.

Reading too much right wing propoganda??

The legend has it that may massacres of Jews including the Nazi holocaust were Jews own political fabrications to garner sympathy. Simple logic, if Nazi wanted to banish jews they would be targetting the intellactuals and leaders first following by wealthy people. Not let all wealthy jews escape to switzerland and execute the poor labours.

 

[Sinnerman108]

If you talk about religion. According to Islam all nations recieved prophets from God who teached them monotheism. But Jews are only nation which preserved monotheism. So before attacking Jews look at yourself.

My argument is not about religion at all.
I have utmost respect for Torah, for Moses for Ibraheem and his sons.

All I am pointing out is the history of the people of Israel.
They are the ONLY people who got the maximum amount of love, and they WERE the CHOOSEN people and yet they were never satisfied with God's gifts.

so how can humans ever debate with you ?

 

[Hussein]

Reading too much right wing propoganda??

The legend has it that may massacres of Jews including the Nazi holocaust were Jews own political fabrications to garner sympathy. Simple logic, if Nazi wanted to banish jews they would be targetting the intellactuals and leaders first following by wealthy people. Not let all wealthy jews escape to switzerland and execute the poor labours.

Baha’is, the Sole Targets of Conspiracism? - Iran Press Watch
for the crypto jews and bahais. the people who make these fake stories it is spoken about... for luck they are almost non existent in Iran

about the nazis,
no no no. the nazis first attacked the libraries and all the wealthy people insulted and attacked (before it becomes worst an dworst): nazis were thinking that the jews were stealing their money
remember how terrible was the economy of Germany at that time
If rich people can escape more easily it is logical: more you have money more you can afford it.