White Guy Tells How China Really is

[Chinese-Dragon]

I honestly don't welcome foreigners living in my country. Visit is okay but not live there. However I enjoy living temporary in foreign land. LOL

Seriously?

 

[Aepsilons]

Seriously?

Ha ha, you're from Hong Kong, i bet you're used to seeing a lot of gaijin , bro...

For me growing up I was always awed at seeing people that didn't look like me. Always curious of their habits and ways. That curiosity led me to the 'states.

 

[Owl of Abott]

china has a way better infrastructure then america.and 80% of the chinese people are satisfied with their government unlike the west where the percentage is only 30%.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Ha ha, you're from Hong Kong, i bet you're used to seeing a lot of gaijin , bro...

For me growing up I was always awed at seeing people that didn't look like me. Always curious of their habits and ways. That curiosity led me to the 'states.

Haha I know what Gaijin means, it is "外人" right? In the Mainland the most common term is Laowai (老外). Both of those are fairly neutral terms, though there is a Cantonese term that is a bit more rude.

Plenty of Laowai in China, not just in HK but in every major city on the Mainland too.

Many of them live there, but it is very hard to get Chinese citizenship for a foreigner.

Personally I went to an international school in HK, so at least half of my classmates were foreigners, children of expatriates, etc. Really though, human beings are not all that different, nationality/language/culture etc. aside.

 

[Aepsilons]

china has a way better infrastructure then america.and 80% of the chinese people are satisfied with their government unlike the west where the percentage is only 30%.

Its impossible to make such a blanket statement. Unless you have been throughout the United States to see the infrastructure here, its highly unlikely your claim is accurate.

I have driven from New Jersey all the way to California. From Route i-95, to i-80 , to i-90. The high ways , namely the Turnpikes in the United States is incredible. Even in minor high ways there is a rest stop, visiting center for every 20-30 miles.

Impressive how large this country is, and how abundant it is in resources, et al.

Haha I know what Gaijin means, it is "外人" right? In the Mainland the most common term is Laowai (老外).

Plenty of Laowai in China, not just in HK but in every major city on the Mainland too.

Many of them live there, but it is very hard to get Chinese citizenship for a foreigner.

Personally I went to an international school in HK, so at least half of my classmates were foreigners, children of expatriates, etc. Really though, human beings are not all that different, nationality/language/culture etc. aside.

Ha Ha Ha ! Yes, you're right. I also know that term Laowai.

You went to an international school eh? And i bet your mastery of the English language was profound, considering you're a Hong Konger. The Pearl of the Orient, as the British used to call it.

I grew up in Sapporo and so there were some gaijin who lived in the city, many were business folk, or married to Japanese. But probably not as much as in Hong Kong, which is the definition of an International City. In your experiences with Laowai, did you feel that they were receptive to Chinese culture ? Or only some?

 

[Owl of Abott]

Its impossible to make such a blanket statement. Unless you have been throughout the United States to see the infrastructure here, its highly unlikely your claim is accurate.

I have driven from New Jersey all the way to California. From Route i-95, to i-80 , to i-90. The high ways , namely the Turnpikes in the United States is incredible. Even in minor high ways there is a rest stop, visiting center for every 20-30 miles.

Impressive how large this country is, and how abundant it is in resources, et al.

do i need to show you detroit?and the rusting factories of other american cities?infrastructure is not all about highways,it also includes factories,buildings,airports etc.and i don,t remember the site but a few officials of the microsoft compared the airports of shanghai and LA,and they said that the Shanghai airport is way better and it has modern infrastructure.
but one cannot reject the fact that western china still needs some development.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Its impossible to make such a blanket statement. Unless you have been throughout the United States to see the infrastructure here, its highly unlikely your claim is accurate.

I have driven from New Jersey all the way to California. From Route i-95, to i-80 , to i-90. The high ways , namely the Turnpikes in the United States is incredible. Even in minor high ways there is a rest stop, visiting center for every 20-30 miles.

Impressive how large this country is, and how abundant it is in resources, et al.

The US has a much longer road and rail network than China has, despite having a much smaller population. That is why we are a developing country, and that is something we need to catch up on.

Though China does have a longer expressway road network size, and a longer high speed rail network size, so we are starting to catch up at least. Though still not great, considering our population.

Ha Ha Ha ! Yes, you're right. I also know that term Laowai.

You went to an international school eh? And i bet your mastery of the English language was profound, considering you're a Hong Konger. The Pearl of the Orient, as the British used to call it.

I grew up in Sapporo and so there were some gaijin who lived in the city, many were business folk, or married to Japanese. But probably not as much as in Hong Kong, which is the definition of an International City. In your experiences with Laowai, did you feel that they were receptive to Chinese culture ? Or only some?

My English is OK, plus my internet browser has a spelling and grammar checker so...

In my experience, Laowai living in China tend to be quite friendly and receptive to Chinese culture. Which makes sense, otherwise they would not want to live here. Those Laowai who don't like our culture are much less likely to come here.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

do i need to show you detroit?and the rusting factories of other american cities?infrastructure is not all about highways,it also includes factories,buildings,airports etc.and i don,t remember the site but a few officials of the microsoft compared the airports of shanghai and LA,and they said that the Shanghai airport is way better and it has modern infrastructure.
but one cannot reject the fact that western china still needs some development.

There's over 5000 airports in the US. It's going to be tricky to get them all to 21st century design.

 

[Aepsilons]

do i need to show you detroit?and the rusting factories of other american cities?infrastructure is not all about highways,it also includes factories,buildings,airports etc.and i don,t remember the site but a few officials of the microsoft compared the airports of shanghai and LA,and they said that the Shanghai airport is way better and it has modern infrastructure.
but one cannot reject the fact that western china still needs some development.

Detroit is an example of one rundown city. There are magnanimous examples of American urban design , hundreds more.

I invite you to come to the United States and do a personal drive throughout these United States.... and see for your own eyes what America is all about.

 

[Owl of Abott]

There's over 5000 airports in the US. It's going to be tricky to get them all to 21st century design.

no worries,you are still better then Pakistan

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

There's over 5000 airports in the US. It's going to be tricky to get them all to 21st century design.

Much better than London Heathrow though.

Considering how much traffic they get, they really should upgrade, but of course it is practically difficult to do so when in constant usage.

 

[Aepsilons]

Much better than London Heathrow though.

Considering how much traffic they get, they really should upgrade, but of course it is practically difficult to do so when in constant usage.

One airport that the United States needs to desperately upgrade is La Guardia in NYC.

There's over 5000 airports in the US. It's going to be tricky to get them all to 21st century design.

@Peter C ,

As a Japanese national, i have to say that my first year in the 'states was an eye opener. Everything is BIG in America. The stores are BIG, the malls are BIG, roads are BIG, the cars, trucks all are BIG. I mean, even American people , generally, tend to be bigger, taller , and well fed lol.

America is "Super Sized" in what they do.

This is how bad it is. When I went back home to Sapporo this past December - January , i was telling my parents how the roads in Sapporo are too small. Then again, i realized how i have been affected by living in America...

 

[Owl of Abott]

One airport that the United States needs to desperately upgrade is La Guardia in NYC.




@Peter C ,

As a Japanese national, i have to say that my first year in the 'states was an eye opener. Everything is BIG in America. The stores are BIG, the malls are BIG, roads are BIG, the cars, trucks all are BIG. I mean, even American people , generally, tend to be bigger, taller , and well fed lol.

America is "Super Sized" in what they do.

This is how bad it is. When I went back home to Sapporo this past December - January , i was telling my parents how the roads in Sapporo are too small. Then again, i realized how i have been affected by living in America...

what about the JFK Airport in NYC.

 

[Genesis]

I think he means this:

Ah, yes, I'm a realist, it is what it is. I too uses foreign brands for most things, not necessarily because they are better, but for what they represent.

Why even argue, we like foreign brands because they represent something communist China doesn't power, prestige, freedom, and wealth. Whether these still hold true is largely irrelevant, even a defeated Rome still held special place in the hearts of those that came later. Holy Romans of Charlemagne, of Germans, of Sultanate of Rum, Kaiser, Tsar, and more.

Why fight a losing battle? The era of Chinese supremacy is just in its infancy, 200 years of utter dominance cannot be erased in one day. Even Japan and Korea still faces this problem. Japan less so, My dad loves Lexus over the Euro counter parts, but it still exists.

China needs a long road before we reach the promise land, but to me it's not Chinese buying Chinese luxury brands that will help, that I believe will not result in anything. It's achievements outside of this.

Space station, moon landing, mars missions and more. Victories on the battle field, the day we are declared first amongst equals in Asia, is the day Chinese confidence is reborn.

 

[Aepsilons]

what about the JFK Airport in NYC.

JFK is okay. But the best would be O'Haire International Airport in Chicago, Illinois, USA.