Where is pak with 200 million people, Why Pak/India/china graduates are not innovative??

[Jhon Smith]

Where does the problem lies in Pak for her failure to be innovative with 200 million people. countries with few million are light year ahead than to Pak.
Global innovation rankings
The innovation game
Sep 17th 2015, 12:50 BY L.S. & THE DATA TEAM

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WHICH is the world’s most innovative country? Answering this question is the aim of the annual Global Innovation Index and a related report, which were published this morning by Cornell University, INSEAD, a business school, and the World Intellectual Property Organisation. The ranking of 140 countries and economies around the world, which are scored using 79 indicators, is not surprising: Switzerland, Britain, Sweden, the Netherlands and America lead the pack. But the authors also look at their data from other angles, for instance how countries do relative to their economic development and the quality of innovation (measured by indicators such as university rankings). In both cases the results are more remarkable. The chart above shows that in innovation many countries in Africa punch above their economic weight. And the chart below indicates that, even though China is now churning out a lot of patents, it is still way behind America and other rich countries when it comes to innovation quality.

Read more: “Who's brains are draining?" and ”Innovation and religion”

Source= http://www.economist.com/blogs/grap...nkings?fsrc=scn/fb/te/pe/ed/theinnovationgame

Innovation now a days is high tech. To do state-of-the-art R&D, you need money big time, and that's something we dont have in Pakistan. Secondly which is also an important thing, to create an environment among the students to emphasize on Innovation, that we also lack in Pakistan.

Money is not 5% of the failure, even Nigeria , Ethiopia like countries have high ranking in innovation when make comparison with Pak ... Religion might be much bigger factor than to Money --------> "About 97% of American scientists do not believe in God. US also does not impose certain religious belief on others. That's why US is not any out-layer in this broad consensus that religion does inhibit logical thinking and that's reflected in less innovation."'

MORE religious countries tend to be less innovative, according to a paper published last month by America’s National Bureau of Economic Research. In “Forbidden Fruits: The Political Economy of Science, Religion, and Growth”, Roland Benabou of Princeton and Davide Ticche and Andrea Vindigni of the IMT Institute for Advanced Studies Lucca find a strong negative correlation between innovation, as measured by patents, and religiosity, measured by the share of a population that self-identifies as religious. “I am interested in how people form beliefs that are relevant to economics,” says Mr Benabou. “That thought takes you to belief with a capital B, and that’s religion.”

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/05/daily-chart-3

 

[touela]

Innovation now a days is high tech. To do state-of-the-art R&D, you need money big time, and that's something we dont have in Pakistan. Secondly which is also an important thing, to create an environment among the students to emphasize on Innovation, that we also lack in Pakistan.

But I do think, if, due to CPEC, we se an economic upturn for the next ten years, well, lets talk at that point and se if things have changed

 

[gayMo]

Innovation now a days is high tech. To do state-of-the-art R&D, you need money big time, and that's something we dont have in Pakistan. Secondly which is also an important thing, to create an environment among the students to emphasize on Innovation, that we also lack in Pakistan.

But I do think, if, due to CPEC, we se an economic upturn for the next ten years, well, lets talk at that point and se if things have changed

But cpec is just clinging to coat tails of china who themselves are nkt known for innovation. So how

 

[touela]

But cpec is just clinging to coat tails of china who themselves are nkt known for innovation. So how

then how come they are able to make state of the art :
1) super computers, competing with USA in this field.
2) Military hardware ( and due to their own hardware, nobody in the region dare to look them in their eyes).
3) Look at their cities man, innovative or not, sometimes you cant even see if this is china or a city from the states.

 

[gayMo]

then how come they are able to make state of the art :
1) super computers, competing with USA in this field.
2) Military hardware ( and due to their own hardware, nobody in the region dare to look them in their eyes).
3) Look at their cities man, innovative or not, sometimes you cant even see if this is china or a city from the states.

Firstly i am not belittling China or anyone. Only trying to say that we all are not as innovative.
India also has made super computers. In this day and age thats par. One can package already available kniwhow and technology and make it better with different and better processes.
What is there in chinese military which is not available anywhere else. Lets not even talk about india in thiz.
And fr next point also - china cities are great but look at the environment damage they have inflicted.
But these have nothing to do with the topic on hand and i do appreciate the strides nsfw by china and to an extent india

 

[iPhone]

You can be innovative or original only if you're willing to take risks. Nine out of ten, a person is not going to take a risk is if there is no cushion of stability for them to land on.

Innovation and financial stability go hand in hand. People in the developing and up and coming economic nations, for the most part, tend to play it safe when it comes to their career choices or any business risks, leaving very little room for innovation.

People in Pakistan ran so many fields of work and art into the ground due to their redundancy and lack of innovation. Their thinking of course, innovation comes with risks, and risks are bad for your money -especially if you don't have a lot of it.

There is a New York times bestseller on this subject matter that I intend to read in the near future called, "Originals: how non-conformist move the world."

 

[cloud_9]

Marks. Obedience to elders and tosociety. Ancient culture, at least for indians and chinese. Not so much for Pakistanis.

Well the glorious 5000-year culture doesn't help much in Indian and Chinese context.

 

[gayMo]

Well the glorious 5000-year culture doesn't help much in Indian and Chinese context.

Ability to unlearn is important

 

[cloud_9]

Ability to unlearn is important

The only things unlearnt during this time were basic human and societal values.

 

[beijingwalker]

How authoritative this report is itself is in question. It's very difficult to gauge a country's overall innovation strength. Hong Kong and Singapore are on the top of the list, but those city states are by and large just irrelevant

 

[Sneaker]

this is misleading. it doesn't count patents files by indians in other countries. that information would be more interesting.

 

[gayMo]

The only things unlearnt during this time were basic human and societal values.

Agreed. That's why I am saying we are not where we would like to be.

 

[itachii]

Quality of education has biggest impact on building an innovative society. Most of the ducation in India is still rot learning, and it takes one nowhere in innovation ladder.

 

[Indian009]

Where does the problem lies in Pak for her failure to be innovative with 200 million people. countries with few million are light year ahead than to Pak.
Global innovation rankings
The innovation game
Sep 17th 2015, 12:50 BY L.S. & THE DATA TEAM

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WHICH is the world’s most innovative country? Answering this question is the aim of the annual Global Innovation Index and a related report, which were published this morning by Cornell University, INSEAD, a business school, and the World Intellectual Property Organisation. The ranking of 140 countries and economies around the world, which are scored using 79 indicators, is not surprising: Switzerland, Britain, Sweden, the Netherlands and America lead the pack. But the authors also look at their data from other angles, for instance how countries do relative to their economic development and the quality of innovation (measured by indicators such as university rankings). In both cases the results are more remarkable. The chart above shows that in innovation many countries in Africa punch above their economic weight. And the chart below indicates that, even though China is now churning out a lot of patents, it is still way behind America and other rich countries when it comes to innovation quality.

Read more: “Who's brains are draining?" and ”Innovation and religion”

Source= http://www.economist.com/blogs/grap...nkings?fsrc=scn/fb/te/pe/ed/theinnovationgame


Money is not 5% of the failure, even Nigeria , Ethiopia like countries have high ranking in innovation when make comparison with Pak ... Religion might be much bigger factor than to Money --------> "About 97% of American scientists do not believe in God. US also does not impose certain religious belief on others. That's why US is not any out-layer in this broad consensus that religion does inhibit logical thinking and that's reflected in less innovation."'

MORE religious countries tend to be less innovative, according to a paper published last month by America’s National Bureau of Economic Research. In “Forbidden Fruits: The Political Economy of Science, Religion, and Growth”, Roland Benabou of Princeton and Davide Ticche and Andrea Vindigni of the IMT Institute for Advanced Studies Lucca find a strong negative correlation between innovation, as measured by patents, and religiosity, measured by the share of a population that self-identifies as religious. “I am interested in how people form beliefs that are relevant to economics,” says Mr Benabou. “That thought takes you to belief with a capital B, and that’s religion.”

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/05/daily-chart-3

Correct on many things but missed very important point !!!!

The need

Innovation is caused by need. Offcouse Man, place , background , money & education make difference but the driving force is need.

In Asia basic needs are not fulfilled for everybody so our time goes mostly for that.

In developed courtires their needs are passed basics. Now they need different things.

When one need something it's human nature to get or achieve it by hooks n crooks.

 

[Established_1965]

How authoritative this report is itself is in question. It's very difficult to gauge a country's overall innovation strength. Hong Kong and Singapore are on the top of the list, but those city states are by and large just irrelevant

LOL! SG is small but doesn't mean that we are not innovative. We went from a fishing town to a developed country very fast and that to without "OIL".