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When the Chinese Cut Rates It's Time to Worry

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The surprise decision by China’s central bank to cut interest rates on June 7 shows increasing nervousness about the state of the economy. While most economists were predicting a rate reduction sometime this year, the suddenness of this latest move reveals just how antsy China’s officials are getting.

“As the first rate cut since Dec 2008, the surprise move sends a strong signal that the government will be more active in supporting demand and stabilizing growth,” wrote Citi Investment Research & Analysis Hong Kong analysts Shuang Ding, Minggao Shen, and Serena Wang in a June 7 note. “We see this as a shift of monetary policy tone that would help lower borrowing costs and improve confidence, increasing the chance for the economy to bottom in Q2 and rebound in Q3.” (Citi Investment Research & Analysis is part of Citigroup Global Markets.)

The People’s Bank of China, China’s central bank, announced it was cutting its benchmark interest rates by 25 basis points, with 12-month lending rates falling from 6.56 percent to 6.31 percent and deposit rates dropping from 3.5 percent to 3.25 percent. Although reserve ratio requirements for Chinese banks have already been reduced three times since last November, today’s cut is the first time China has moved interest rates since raising them (also by 25 basis points) last July.

“The interest rate cut came in as a surprise to the market. Most people were expecting more [bank reserve ratio] cuts” before a move on interest rates, wrote Shanghai-based Standard Chartered economist Wei Li in a June 7 note. “Economic growth and new loan extension data (due this Saturday) must have remained very weak in May, triggering the PBoC to front-load interest rate cuts.”

And while before banks were allowed to lend at a 10 percent discount to the benchmark rate, now they will be able to offer a 20 percent discount. Banks now can also offer savers up to 1.1 times the benchmark savings rate. “The symmetric cuts to both lending and saving benchmark interest rates indicate that the authorities still care to protect banks’ profitability,” wrote Wei Li. “However, the increased flexibilities for banks to decide on actual rates they offer to customers suggest that the PBoC wants to make a step forward toward a more market-oriented interest rate system.”

Don’t expect today’s surprise move to be the last interest rate action. Despite recent announcements that Beijing intends to boost the economy by subsidizing consumer purchases of energy-efficient appliances and speeding up approval of infrastructure projects in steel, energy, water treatment, and other areas, most economists predict more moves by China’s central bank later this year.

London’s Capital Economics, for example, expects one more interest rate cut of 25 basis points before the end of 2012, while Standard Chartered is predicting that the PBOC will reduce rates twice. The Citi analysts expect one or two more rate cuts in 2012.

“The [latest] move is clearly a response to a string of disappointing economic data and, in particular, the weakness of credit growth in the wake of government stimulus calls,” wrote London-based chief Asia economist Mark Williams of Capital Economics in a June 7 note. “Many harbour doubts about the wisdom of another credit-fuelled stimulus, but the government’s overriding objective is to ensure that the economy is not too fragile in the final months before the leadership transition.”


When the Chinese Cut Rates It's Time to Worry - Businessweek

The worry they speak of is for the world economy . BUT I actually feel it was a good move by their govt in recognizing that they can't continue the hype. and great for its citizens , well , from a credit perspective . Value of their currency( savings) in their banks just gets further devalued and lowered
 
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Here CCP gives surprises to the market by cutting rates and on the otherside UPA(RBI) surprises market by increasing rates..
Are they not worrying about the inflation ??
 
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that's really a surprise, I don't see the need of rate cut, their economic growth is super.

I think it's a trap for RBI to follow.;)
 
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No surprising its a wake up call to everyone around the world that sh*t is coming down and you better be ready. The whole thing is a result of Euro, one countries goes down and takes the others with it. The best thing we can do right now is keep up the local market strong, to absorb some of the blows.
 
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that's really a surprise, I don't see the need of rate cut, their economic growth is super.

I think it's a trap for RBI to follow.;)

or an opportunity for you show you lost another 25 points on IQ :P
 
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No question that the world economy is in trouble, I'd worry less about China than that of Europe. China still have a few cards to play at least. In the worst case the central government can just print more money, bank in China will never fall because it is government controlled. Of course this will cause too much side effect.

Devaluation of Chinese currency is actually a good thing to China.
 
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At least we cut 25 basis points in June after India cut 50 basis points in April.

And India can cut interest rates with double digital inflation, why we dare not to cut interest rates with only 3% inflation?

Althogh India cut 50 basis points in April, it seem useless to India ecomomy.
India export shrink 4.2% in May.
Exports shrink 4.2% in May - The Times of India

Before cut interest rates ,China exports jumped by 15.3% in May and inflation drops to 3%.
BBC News - China trade data in surprise sign of strength
 
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At least we cut 25 basis points in June after India cut 50 basis points in April.

And India can cut interest rates with double digital inflation, why we dare not to cut interest rates with only 3% inflation?

Althogh India cut 50 basis points in April, it seem useless to India ecomomy.
India export shrink 4.2% in May.
Exports shrink 4.2% in May - The Times of India

Before cut interest rates ,China exports jumped by 15.3% in May and inflation drops to 3%.
BBC News - China trade data in surprise sign of strength

what the hell has India to do with your interest rate ? India has 2 - 3 x smaller GDP. why do you think of always comparing yourself to them? and what's the stats out of china? - fudged numbers and all bad news hidden? you guys are the only nation in the top 5 economies that still calls itself a 3rd world country!
 
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what the hell has India to do with your interest rate ? India has 2 - 3 x smaller GDP. why do you think of always comparing yourself to them ?and what's the stats out of china? - fudged numbers and all bad news hidden? you guys are the only nation in the top 5 economies that still calls itself a 3rd world country!

who's them? incredibles?
 
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what the hell has India to do with your interest rate ? India has 2 - 3 x smaller GDP. why do you think of always comparing yourself to them? and what's the stats out of china? - fudged numbers and all bad news hidden? you guys are the only nation in the top 5 economies that still calls itself a 3rd world country!


So why you guys always concern China much more than your terrible ecomony?


By the way , not 2 - 3 x smaller, but 5 x, and with a higher growth.
 
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Kawaraj Please if you don't know economics and politics please restrain from commenting st**d comments.
 
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So why you guys always concern China much more than your terrible ecomony?


By the way , not 2 - 3 x smaller, but 5 x, and with a higher growth.

is that what they told you in your brainwashing class of 5x more? Why are you on a forum to discuss world topics if you can't handle staying on topic?...else it would like me posting this about you mainlanders...
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is that what they told you in your brainwashing class of 5x more? Why are you on a forum to discuss world topics if you can't handle staying on topic?...else it would like me posting this about you mainlanders...

Hei...you seem lose control this topic which start to BS China...
So you want to make this topic dirty?

$7.5 trillion : $1.4 trillion.... oh...it is not 5x...It is more than 5x..
 
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Kawaraj Please if you don't know economics and politics please restrain from commenting st**d comments.

I don't know economics, what are you talking about? I bet I know holy better than you in the field of economics.

by the way why you pick on me as I barely talked to you before?
 
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