When did shorts get so commonplace among Indian girls?

[Bizarre]

There are all types of women here..and they know what suits them better so let them wear sari,suit or a bikini...we shouldn't discuss about them..it's there choice and they know what to do better!

 

[JonAsad]

i still fail to understand the logic behind what women wear and colonism.....

and the relation between what women wear and development of a society is what confusing me- Development of society should not be directly or indirectly proportional to what women wear-

Women are not a scale to measure any thing-

and if it is related to liberalism- then it doesn't mean the lesser the clothes women wear the more liberal the soceity has become-

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

i just wanted to prove my point liberalism is nothing abt being liberated, it about cheating the western values nothing else, woman are now being given the choice to wear skirts what ever in china, doesnt mean china follows liberalism, it follows communism, liberalism has a wide meaning, which means its liberal in politics, economics, a country which doesnt follow colonial directives is a liberal country which means only western countries can be said to be truely liberated

liberalism has nothing to do with following western culture blindly by forgetting ur own values and culture. You can be liberal and modern within your own culture. Westernism and modernism are two different thing.

As far as topic concern i dont know whether topic starter find this change as pleasant or not

 

[divya]

Thats a very bold claim to make-
every society of this world was conservative till the early 19th century-
The dupatta (covering of women's body) was not the alien concept then- which Muhammad Bin Qasim brought in the Subcontinent-

And guess who wrote Kamasutra, made those temples of sex....

Indians did not had the following things before the Islam came like
purdah system
divorce
sex as taboo topic

though that does not mean that women were running naked all around the place

Indian society of 19th century was quite influnced by the Islamic culture. Duppatta was always there in the form of Pallu in traditional indian dress.

 

[Pride]

This all is changed in past 5 years and spreading very rapidly in non-metro cities. I remember when a girl wearing jeans in early 90s was supposedly a crime (ok Almost)... but due to too much "open environment" presentation after Mallika Sharafat (?) people are now getting used to of such dresses and hence slowly this is becoming a part of women's liberlization and ppl now dont feel awkaward.. Not only shorts but string based tops as well..

 

[Sayonara]

Thats a very bold claim to make-
every society of this world was conservative till the early 19th century-
The dupatta (covering of women's body) was not the alien concept then- which Muhammad Bin Qasim brought in the Subcontinent-

leave it brother, i think indians are making a point that they are not copying from west but it was in their grass roots and they had 'liberated' their women when the indian civilization began and practices of sati and new born irl being killed was alien to them till these barian muslims came

 

[divya]

well i was thinking to have sane discussion, you have yourself proved child by started trolling, after which you know, we cant have a sane discussion at all,i can have a worse discussion but not now so

adios, enjoy trolling


abt islam part, islam gave you entire civilization, those barbarian muslims also made taj mehal which you are too proud of today.. yup its also islamic

We have always cherished the good things done by people at the same time people need the middle finger for the thousands of women raped and men killed during the invasion...

linking what women wear with colonism and equating liberalism with a form of government and you are calling me a troll....

if you cant argue than go back to your cave

 

[divya]

and the relation between what women wear and development of a society is what confusing me- Development of society should not be directly or indirectly proportional to what women wear-

Women are not a scale to measure any thing-

and if it is related to liberalism- then it doesn't mean the lesser the clothes women wear the more liberal the soceity has become-

Totally agreed with your point.......

 

[Pride]

and the relation between what women wear and development of a society is what confusing me- Development of society should not be directly or indirectly proportional to what women wear-

Women are not a scale to measure any thing-

Have you ever heard Social or Cultural revolution? These developments made a society better.. some 125 years ago in our religion we had a malpractice named Sati pratha.. That has been killed.. some 20-25 yrs ago we had a long veil ritual that is almost gone now.. These are the path of developments if u see as only enforcer wants to have these rituals not the one who is following the same..

 

[divya]

leave it brother, i think indians are making a point that they are not copying from west but it was in their grass roots and they had 'liberated' their women when the indian civilization began and practices of sati and new born irl being killed was alien to them till these barian muslims came

Sati was a practised which was introduced on the basis of a legend story just for people to make their point and secure their position. Sati was the word which means someone who is devoted to her husband as per vedas. Later on the practise was introduced by some people for their moral high ground. Though how evil it might it was upto women to decide for going for sati or not.


As far as killing female child goes the practise is new not the traditional practise. if it was there would have been no women left in past killings of 10,000 years....

And regarding leave better leave now then ............

 

[Sayonara]

And guess who wrote Kamasutra, made those temples of sex....

Indians did not had the following things before the Islam came like
purdah system
divorce
sex as taboo topic

though that does not mean that women were running naked all around the place

Indian society of 19th century was quite influnced by the Islamic culture. Duppatta was always there in the form of Pallu in traditional indian dress.

kamasutra only reflects the hypocritical nature of your monks, the temple of **** only shows the epic hypocricy of your holy men,

the absence of divorse concept didnt reflect the slavery of women???? what are you talking about, what if the husband tortures her wife and still wife cant 'divorse' him

it was considered to talk openly abt sex in india before, the only sex that happened was post marital thing

pardah was never practiced by hindu women, it was the symbol of pride for muslim women

 

[SR 71 Blackbird]

OH no this is becoming a Hindu vs Muslim thread.

 

[Pride]

leave it brother, i think indians are making a point that they are not copying from west but it was in their grass roots and they had 'liberated' their women when the indian civilization began and practices of sati and new born irl being killed was alien to them till these barian muslims came

If you want to know the truth yes Women's liberaliztion was in our culture before invaders came to India (There were plenty of problems were there in society related to women but not as huge as it became later on)... There are plenty of women who r in our scriptures has liberty and even rule the kingdome.. Things started worsening afterwards (why to hide from history?)

 

[blackops]

Well i dont mind what my gf wears if she can carry herself in a decent manner its all about the mindset i bet go to marine drive you will se 100 of couples most people dont care but some do at the end its all about the mind set

 

[blackops]

Have you ever heard Social or Cultural revolution? These developments made a society better.. some 125 years ago in our religion we had a malpractice named Sati pratha.. That has been killed.. some 20-25 yrs ago we had a long veil ritual that is almost gone now.. These are the path of developments if u see as only enforcer wants to have these rituals not the one who is following the same..

For the sati part it is no were mentioned in our books