When are you going back to Arabia?’: Chinese Muslims became the target of online hate

[Spring Onion]

Muslims in China don't get killed. Hindus in America get killed. Hindus in Australia get killed. But I don't see you open any thread about that. Talk about China obsession!

This is lame excuse to brush the dirt under the carpet .

Muslims are faced with many difficulties in China let us accept this fact.

When it comes to curbs on religious freedom of Muslims and hate towards them there is no difference between India and China but we opt to bash India while ignore China.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Tell those stories to someone who hasn't been to china. I been there multiple times .
China doesn't recognize any religion on state level and in Mao era they destroyed Churches , mosques and Pagodas alike.
But while wandering in Guangzhou I noticed small god figurines in almost every shop. So religion on personal level is common in china.
Also you have no idea how many Chinese are now converting to Christianity .
About Japanese, they think they are some sky creatures and don't even want to talk to non Japanese unless its some white westerner.
And I laugh at their idiocy.

Religion in China

89.56% = irreligiousity aka Atheism
6.75% = Buddhism
0.54% = Taoism
1.89% =Protestantism
0.41% = Catholicsm
0.46^ = Islam

1)For Atheism, ~50+% are convinced Atheists- that is some1 who absolutely rejects the notion of the existence of any 'divine being' or engage in the practice of religious worship(e.g praying to 'god(s)', idols, chanting, singing) , as can be explained in the following quote:

"Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion. While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion. ... The only common thread that ties all atheists together is a lack of belief in gods and supernatural beings."

2)for the remainder of those who form part of being irreligious- the majority of them conforms to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism .

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Talking on 1969 is pretty irrelevant today..Hindu Muslim thing was too common back then & was merely two decades after independence..Back then lots of things have happened.
For a rich country like China I am sure they have option to concise with better lifestyle..Now I am talking from what I have seen reading all these articles on Al Jazeera or BBC about human rights of Muslims in China..
Also In India they enjoy all kind of freedom including reservation in job education & all press media,intellects backing them for their rights...

Oh, really? Muslims in US, France, the UK enjoy the freedom of democracy. They have human rights, not being FBI or CIA or other surveillance?...Well, I hope Mr. Snowden is my illusion.

Sir. Although China has a population of 1.37 billion, But we are high-HDI countries. Please don't bother us. Do not think that we are a small country, you can enjoy human rights in iraq. In addition, I hope India really play the role of democracy, shake off the turbulent society... Not a vase.

 

[cirr]

China's Communist Party government has hardened its position against Islam and muslim population. Now further sinicizing, whatever that implies!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-12-06-48-20

CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY OFFICIALS HARDEN RHETORIC ON ISLAM

BEIJING (AP) -- China's ruling Communist Party is hardening its rhetoric about Islam, with top officials making repeated warnings this past week about the specter of global religious extremism seeping into the country.

Shaerheti Ahan, a top political and legal affairs party official in Xinjiang, became the latest official from a predominantly Muslim region to warn political leaders gathered in Beijing about China becoming destabilized by the "international anti-terror situation."

Over the past year, President Xi Jinping has directed the party to "Sinicize" the country's ethnic and religious minorities, while regional leaders in Xinjiang, home to the Uighur (WEE-gur) ethnic minority, have ramped up policing amid an uptick in violence.

The government's hardening rhetoric has coincided with new security measures that activists say exacerbate a cycle of repression, radicalization and violence.

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Harden rhetoric on religious extremism not Islam, idiot!

 

[The Eagle]

Chinese Officials have to come forward to clarify the situation as whether it effects internally or not but it is obvious that such approach may affect China's relations with Muslim World/Islamic Countries and also, these weaknesses may well be exploited by people like ISIS etc that there are fools can be attracted to ISIS due to such situation. The current uncleared statements are merely pointing towards anti-religious stances that no country can afford and may harm the nation itself though we all are fighting extremism of any form hence, must be told clearly.

 

[Beast]

Yeah! You speak for the Kashmiri and Indian muslims now. They are thriving here.
When I was studying in Canada, your own Chinese said the same thing about China (not Chinese anymore though). That's worse than some foreign dudes talking sh*t about another country.




Explain why the Tibetan monks set themselves on fire? Yeah, tibetans are so happy living in China and loving the Chinese invasion. Same as the Falun Gong practitioners. Seriously are they totally happy to get organs harvested.

Really civilized folks


Yeah, but when they do that to Kashmiri, they are fighting for freedom. They are not terrorists. And when we tried to ban Mazood azhar you put technical hold on it. Karma will hit you.
Forget Islam you do that to the Falun gong practitioners. Is that propaganda too? The list goes on and on and on. And it dates back when CPC came into power. (Cultural revo, Tienanmen square massacre to name a few.)
Freedom of expression and freedom of religion is only in rule books. In practice it's pure BS.

Dont be delusion. No Indian Muslim Kashmir are thriving. You are just avoiding the problem. You can see the amount of overseas Chinese loves to go back and live in China. Its modern, sophisticated and safe. Unlike India where many people avoid going. Young women are unable to travel alone in night. Dalit Indian are still being murder at record rate everyday by the elites. You are just desperate to try prevent us from mentioning this humiliating things

 

[Attila the Hun]

This is lame excuse to brush the dirt under the carpet .

Muslims do that when Muslims kill other Muslims too...

 

[Luffy 500]

With all due respect to the quoted Pakistani Muslims (assuming) members below, why this blind love for chinese? WHy the muslim citizens of the Islamic republic of Pakistan as represented by PDF so blatantly oblivious to the atrocities committed by chinese CCP on fellow Muslim chinese brothers and sisters in Uighur? Why this blatant denial? Is it because the chinese are showering billions into PAK? But that should never ever impede a Muslim's personal commitment to justice because:

- You being in the virtual world of PDF won't effect the diplomacy between china & pakistan. Rest assured CCP high command is NOT reading PDF and even if they do they won't mistake you for being representative of PAK goverment.

- Are you scared of standing up against the chinese CCP bots on PDF? Is placating them more important to you than your Islam and the love that Islam demands you to have for your fellow chinese Muslim brothers & sisters?

- DO you think the Chinese are as innocent as a lamb and showering billions into PAK for 0 self-interest? Rest assured the chinese will take their pound of flesh in return for the investment they are making. I just hope that pound of flesh does NOT cost Pakistan dearly and that the cooperation is mutually beneficial for PAK.

- Just because of money you would sell your morals? Then what's the difference between you and the materialist non-muslims? If you overlook even at the individual and societal level the atrocities chinese are committing then how in the world would you Pakistani Muslims be ummatan wasata - just and best of Nations.

“Thus We have made you [true Muslims — real believers of Islamic Monotheism, true followers of Prophet Muhammad and his Sunnah (legal ways)], a just (and the best) nation, that you be witnesses over mankind and the Messenger (Muhammad) be a witness over you”

[al-Baqarah 2:143]

- It may very well be the responsibility of Muslims Pakistanis in contact with chinese to give them the message of islam. On the day of resurrection many ordinary chinese may very well complain to Allah (swt) that they did NOT get the message from ordinary pakistani Muslims who utterly failed to represent islam.

- Allah (swt) tests people with wealth and materialistic abundance. The chinese pouring billions may very well be a test for Pakistani Muslims.

- What would the fair minded chinese think of your reaction to chinese Goverment atrocities on Muslims? They would form either of the 2 opinions regarding Muslim Pakistanis:
1) What their goverment is doing is right since even their fellow Muslims (pak) is NOT saying anything.
2) These Muslim Pakistanis are spineless who can't stand up for their beliefs.

Either way you would never be respected by the chinese.

- And last but NOT least where is the consistency? If you blatantly deny chinese atrocities on Muslims, what right do you have to point fingers at Trump , america, Modi etc etc? The CCP in china is as as much bad as trump or Modi if NOT more. The characteristic of a Muslim is that he/she is consistent against all forms of injustice.


Btw don't get me wrong. I hate the hindutvadis and they are some of the most anti-islamic people on earth. But I don't need to whitewash Chinese atrocities on Uighurs to condemn and oppose Indian atrocities on Kashmir. A muslim must be consistent and take a Islamically principled stance on such issues at all levels - personal, social and national. To me its simply baffling that Muslims Pak members who are rightfully very vocal against atrocities of US, India, Israel etc, go painfully silent or even worse white wash inhuman chinese atrocities against Muslims. And they do it on a individual level on the virtual world of PDF? What are you afraid off really? The chinese bots on PDF ?

I just hope the Pak civilian, Military and Religious leaders are NOT like the educated Pakistani citizens as represented on PDF and other social media.

Btw please don't get me wrong my fellow PAK brothers. I am an outsider but as a Muslim I wish good for Pakistan so I had to write this post. This appeasement of CCP chinese on PDF is very shameful IMHO.

we understand your propaganda india. you are trying and trying and trying to create miss understanding with Iran and China.. as you have already created misunderstanding between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Pakistan,Iran and china should expose the propaganda of U.S and India

Hehehe really wish hindu indians had the same CONCERNfor indian muslims. Btw the chinese muslims love cow beef and no one stops them from eating it.

 

[noksss]

Muslims in China don't get killed. Hindus in America get killed. Hindus in Australia get killed. But I don't see you open any thread about that. Talk about China obsession!

Hindutva , Facist , Hitler ,Saffron terrorism ,evil Hindus , Muslims should ask Aazadi would be the kind of comment if this was in India. But hey its china dude so its ok even if Ramadan celebration is banned

Just propaganda to try to drive a wedge between Chinese and Muslims. Don't fall for it.

Islamophobia among Chinese and Sinophobia (did I just create the term?) among Muslims is always going to be very limited because there's no historical bad blood between the two civilizations.

Besides there are racists/fanatics everywhere. (In India though, persecution of Muslims is state sponsored.)

Hmmm no bad blood but Chinese will still ban Ramadan fasting

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/06/china-bans-ramadan-fasting-muslim-region-150618070016245.html

 

[cgy]

Fine，another story about China(in Indian dream).The reason why I explain here is that I don't want to see our Pakistan friends misled by this information and think China is bad for Muslims

First of all,there are different kinds of people in China.different nationalities, different customs, different diets and different religions，1 billion 400 million is a large number,no government can satisfy everyone.Even India and USA.

Second,every country has people who love foreign countries more than homeland.If the ratio is one percent,China has 14 million people who hate his motherland and want to go to another country.

Third,have you done any research on these Muslims for why they hate China so much?"Chinese Muslims became the target of online hate"Is this the main reason（Let's pretend it's real）or just an excuse？Which country do they want to go？Really for religious freedom？

The truth is that they were cheated by some extreme church when they were young.Those people told them that "they're born with everything in the world，because everything in the world is created by Allah，so only Muslims can have it all.You don't live like Bill Gates because kafir stole your money."

Worst of all, they believed it，then they waste their youth on Imagine themseleves rich instead of learning knowledge and technology like most Muslims brothers，they were fond of eating and averse to work like other losers in Han nationality.They feel unfair because other Muslims have a rich life.Years passed,they thought it is all the government's fault,or the major nationalities push aside them.In this way, they could have been working hard to get other people's respect and happiness of life，but they were all destroyed by the ultra religious

At last ,the evidence that I use to prove what I say is that most of them want to go to Saudi Arabia, northern Europe, Western Europe, do not want to go to Libya, Egypt, Africa.

What about Christians in Europe?

Who cares, as long as I can live in villa, eat everything I want, have countless good servant.

There is an old saying in China，Those who are pitiful must have a cause for having sunk to their lows.

If they focus on working hard and working together,they can harvest happiness everywhere.

Muslims in China actually get preferential treatment than Han nationality,I will post the information in this post when I complete search

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Yeah! You speak for the Kashmiri and Indian muslims now. They are thriving here.
When I was studying in Canada, your own Chinese said the same thing about China (not Chinese anymore though). That's worse than some foreign dudes talking sh*t about another country.




Explain why the Tibetan monks set themselves on fire? Yeah, tibetans are so happy living in China and loving the Chinese invasion. Same as the Falun Gong practitioners. Seriously are they totally happy to get organs harvested.

Really civilized folks


Yeah, but when they do that to Kashmiri, they are fighting for freedom. They are not terrorists. And when we tried to ban Mazood azhar you put technical hold on it. Karma will hit you.
Forget Islam you do that to the Falun gong practitioners. Is that propaganda too? The list goes on and on and on. And it dates back when CPC came into power. (Cultural revo, Tienanmen square massacre to name a few.)
Freedom of expression and freedom of religion is only in rule books. In practice it's pure BS.

Lhasa grants 'rare to have' permanent residence cards to 118
foreigners

This is the news that I got today, so I can answer your question
Enjoy the freedom of Kashmir, enjoy the freedom of Manipur and Assam, enjoy the Gujarat massacre. Enjoy your life in a turbulent country... Applause.

Hindutva , Facist , Hitler ,Saffron terrorism ,evil Hindus , Muslims should ask Aazadi would be the kind of comment if this was in India. But hey its china dude so its ok even if Ramadan celebration is banned



Hmmm no bad blood but Chinese will still ban Ramadan fasting

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/06/china-bans-ramadan-fasting-muslim-region-150618070016245.html

So in India, CPI - Maoist should be legalized. I support India's decision.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Here is what I got today.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...uslims-want-from-bjp/articleshow/57606785.cms

In Manipur

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...o-form-govt/story-t6IGtmnDMR2Bc7gxQTdzYJ.html

These are all legit than bogus Lhasa granting PR cards to some 118 people.
This happened recently. Or an year back. It has been going on.
So much for peaceful country
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/04/world/asia/china-tibet-self-immolations.html?_r=0



At last 7 year old data You can come up with something better, like beef, Lynching etc.. Or to the regular toilet poem. That's the average comments now. Instead of addressing what I said, you keep coming at me. I didn't claim India is perfect, but you claim China is super duper tolerant country who worries about security and never persecute anyone based on practice of faith.

How India's 2002 Gujarat riots unfolded

 

[lastofthepatriots]

oh,really?
those terrorists posted video on internet ,telling us they were fighting holy war.
i agree with you that most muslims in china are good people but we also do have many islamic terrorists .

I can come and kill you and claim it is for science. What do you think?

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Here is what I got today.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...uslims-want-from-bjp/articleshow/57606785.cms

In Manipur

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...o-form-govt/story-t6IGtmnDMR2Bc7gxQTdzYJ.html

These are all legit than bogus Lhasa granting PR cards to some 118 people.
This happened recently. Or an year back. It has been going on.
So much for peaceful country
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/04/world/asia/china-tibet-self-immolations.html?_r=0



At last 7 year old data You can come up with something better, like beef, Lynching etc.. Or to the regular toilet poem. That's the average comments now. Instead of addressing what I said, you keep coming at me. I didn't claim India is perfect, but you claim China is super duper tolerant country who worries about security and never persecute anyone based on practice of faith.


High on Propaganda? I don't see dalits getting killed regularly. Politicians are waiting for such an incident to gain momentum. No country is safe for women, last time I check china is not top on the list for women safety. So, don't brag about it.

Indian Authorities Unleashed Excessive Force Against Kashmir Protesters

Yes, India is not perfect, it's just bad...

 

[Mamluk]

This is lame excuse to brush the dirt under the carpet .

Muslims are faced with many difficulties in China let us accept this fact.

When it comes to curbs on religious freedom of Muslims and hate towards them there is no difference between India and China but we opt to bash India while ignore China.

All minorities everywhere face difficulties. But are you really going to compare that to Gujarat riot, Babri demolition and AFSPA & rapes en masse? Was it Modi or Xi Jingping voted to power for murdering thousands of Muslims?