Whats your baradari or tribe?

[KingMamba]

Lo kar looo gal - Both Barelvi & Deobandi are Hanafis !

Hanafi is the 'Fiqh' whilst Barelvi or Deobandi are the Movements !

Deobandi ulema declared Barelvi kufr years ago though.

Only time deobandi and barelvi get along is against qadianis lol.

 

[Contrarian]

i think you

my *** the most famous parsi family has blood of quaide azam

The most famous Parsi families in India is the Tata's and Pallonji's.

And exceptions rarely count. As a community, Parsis have maintained their blood lines rather spectacularly and which ironically has been the cause of their decline.

 

[guluchulo]

I see.
I was talking specifically of Pakistani South Punjab. Would I be correct there?

Yes South Punjab is where most of deobandis live. Still no idea if they make majority there. Overall in punjab is mostly are barelvi.

 

[Sugarcane]

Ahle Hadith are South Asian way of saying Wahabbi, saudis only fund them now over deobandis and all others.

Actually the consider word Wahabi offense as Wahab is one of God's name, that's why i also don't use that word. But yeah you are right about it. Regarding Saudi funding, in Zia's era it was for them, than majority of share used to go to Deobandis, i don't know the current situation.

 

[Contrarian]

Kinda happens when you are occupied meanwhile Pakistani side is ironically most Barelvi and Gilgit is Shia.

Oh and btw, it has been a result of the numerous "Islamic Charities" that were allowed to fund madrassas and educational institutes in India from the Gulf countries from the 80's to throughout the 90's

Ofcourse, no one realized that there could be massive damage because of it back then.

Since then, there has been a massive clamp down on such educational aid. Now its only done through hawala route..which as you know has its limitations.

 

[guluchulo]

The most famous Parsi families in India is the Tata's and Pallonji's.

And exceptions rarely count. As a community, Parsis have maintained their blood lines rather spectacularly and which ironically has been the cause of their decline.

Parsis have a lot higher ASI ancestry and lower ANI ancestry compared to Iranis which mean they have been mixing. Their population is just 40.000 in India.

 

[qamar1990]

Here is a conservative Gujjar

ooooh shit hell no lol

 

[Hyperion]

It's still the same. 99.99% of it goes to Deobandi's.

Actually the consider word Wahabi offense as Wahab is one of God's name, that's why i also don't use that word. But yeah you are right about it. Regarding Saudi funding, in Zia's era it was for them, than majority of share used to go to Deobandis, i don't know the current situation.

 

[Sugarcane]

Lo kar looo gal - Both Barelvi & Deobandi are Hanafis !

Hanafi is the 'Fiqh' whilst Barelvi or Deobandi are the Movements !

Deobandi certainly not and i haven't seen them claiming them of being Barelivi.... may be some sada sunni, i don't know as i am not aware of sectarian details. But one thing for sure is in my relatives or the ones i know don't call them Bralevi.

 

[Hyperion]

Well, there is no difference between Deo's and Wahabo's..... they are like the illegitimate child of Salaf.

Deobandi ulema declared Barelvi kufr years ago though.

Only time deobandi and barelvi get along is against qadianis lol.

 

[RazPaK]

ooooh shit hell no lol

No wonder he's a gangsta.

 

[KingMamba]

Actually the consider word Wahabi offense as Wahab is one of God's name, that's why i also don't use that word. But yeah you are right about it. Regarding Saudi funding, in Zia's era it was for them, than majority of share used to go to Deobandis, i don't know the current situation.

Funding use to go to Deobandis until the Ahle Hadith movement became bigger than Saudis realized that Ahle Hadith were closer to them so now it goes to Ahle Hadith. Even Denzil Ibbetson noted that Ahle Hadith were closest to Wahabis of Saudi Arabia in his census on tribes in British India hundreds of years ago.

 

[Hyperion]

Read the notification carefully. You'll see that it's a reward for "evidence" that can get him convicted!

No wonder he's a gangsta.

Yada ... yada.... all from the same cesspool..... no classification needed...... all are wajib-ul-sending-to-hell.

Funding use to go to Deobandis until the Ahle Hadith movement became bigger than Saudis realized that Ahle Hadith were closer to them so now it goes to Ahle Hadith. Even Denzil Ibbetson noted that Ahle Hadith were closest to Wahabis of Saudi Arabia in his census on tribes in British India hundreds of years ago.

 

[KingMamba]

Oh and btw, it has been a result of the numerous "Islamic Charities" that were allowed to fund madrassas and educational institutes in India from the Gulf countries from the 80's to throughout the 90's

Ofcourse, no one realized that there could be massive damage because of it back then.

Since then, there has been a massive clamp down on such educational aid. Now its only done through hawala route..which as you know has its limitations.

Hardly the case, deobandi movement was in reaction to British occupation and advocated violent rebellion and jihad to rid South Asia of the British. In retaliation British propped up another sect in opposition which served to divide the voice and Muslims were busy fighting that sect instead of the British so the movement failed during British era.

Then deobandi popped up again during soviet invasion of Afghanistan and was encouraged by saudis, pakistani isi, and CIA. This was more successful obvious and then this same ideology was used to encourage Kashmiris to insurrection with bloody results but not effective lol.

 

[Sugarcane]

Here is a conservative Gujjar

Hair = Red??? Red head Gujjar ???