Whatever

[rangbaaz]

well i did visit one Peer saab in Lahore. If i am not wrong i did go there once when i was a child do not know any peer saab personally though

and about Shrines yes i have been there for couple of times - though not a follower of anybody. Just went there for some reasons and again it depends upon the individuals faith. If he goes there and start worshipping it......... its Shirk........ if he goes there, offer nafal to the one and only Allah All-mighty and pray for his forgiveness as well as his own.

I don't see anything wrong in that

u hardly c ne good stuff which u called 'i don't see anything wrong in that'. mostly public do shirk, drugs, nd mny beautiful things (i hope u no wt im tlkng bout)

 

[Hyde]

u hardly c ne good stuff which u called 'i don't see anything wrong in that'. mostly public do shirk, drugs, nd mny beautiful things (i hope u no wt im tlkng bout)

i do know everything - but it does not mean visiting the shrines of the blessed peopes of Allah is wrong

It is just like when non-Muslims sometimes blame the whole Muslim nation as a terrorist nation although only a small portion of those muslims are invoved in extremist activities. Similar is the case here. Only small portion of peoples may be invovled in Shirk or other forbidden activities it does not mean you blame the whole system as bad.

Now stop this discussion this is whatever thread not Religious thread

@your hardly see any good stuff

i hardly see any bad stuff actually

Most of the peoples i noticed are just reading Qur'an

 

[rangbaaz]

i do know everything - but it does not mean visiting the shrines of the blessed peopes of Allah is wrong

It is just like when non-Muslims sometimes blame the whole Muslim nation as a terrorist nation although only a small portion of those muslims are invoved in extremist activities. Similar is the case here. Only small portion of peoples may be invovled in Shirk or other forbidden activities it does not mean you blame the whole system as bad.

Now stop this discussion this is whatever thread not Religious thread

small portion? r u nuts or wt? seems lyk u nvr been to ne mazar

 

[Hyde]

small portion? r u nuts or wt? seems lyk u nvr been to ne mazar

yes not many times actually

only a couple of times - but overall it was OK i guess

and where did this Holy Shrine and shikr etc came? - i was merely listening a Song (poetry) that did not contradict with the teachings of Islam

 

[rangbaaz]

i do know everything - but it does not mean visiting the shrines of the blessed peopes of Allah is wrong

It is just like when non-Muslims sometimes blame the whole Muslim nation as a terrorist nation although only a small portion of those muslims are invoved in extremist activities. Similar is the case here. Only small portion of peoples may be invovled in Shirk or other forbidden activities it does not mean you blame the whole system as bad.

Now stop this discussion this is whatever thread not Religious thread

@your hardly see any good stuff

i hardly see any bad stuff actually

Most of the peoples i noticed are just reading Qur'an

One of the forms of shirk which is particularly widespread in Muslim countries is grave-worship, the belief that dead awliyaa (saints) can fulfil one’s needs or help at times of distress, and calling upon them for aid.

Allah says : “And your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him . . .” [al-Israa’ 17:23]

Similarly, they call upon dead Prophets, righteous people and others to intercede for them or to rescue them from some calamity.

Allah says : “Is not He (better than your gods) Who responds to the distressed one, when he calls Him, and Who removes the evil, and makes you inheritors of the earth, generations after generations? Is there any ilaah (god) with Allah? . . .” [al-Naml 27:62]

Some of them have adopted the habit of mentioning the name of a shaykh or wali (saint) when they stand up, or sit down, or stumble, or encounter problems or distress, so they might say “O Muhammad!” or “O Ali!” or “O Husayn!” or “O Badawi!” or “O Jeelaani!” or “O Shaadhili!” or “O Rifaa’i!” – or they may call upon al-’Aydaroos or Sayyidah Zaynab or Ibn ‘Alwaan.

Allah says : “Verily those whom you call upon besides Allah are slaves like you . . .” [al-A’raf 7:194]

Some of those who worship graves walk around them as if in Tawaaf, and acknowledge their corners, or touch them, kiss them, wipe their faces with their dust, prostrate towards them when they see them, or stand before them in fear and humility, praying for whatever they need of healing from some disease, or for a child, or for help with some difficulty. Sometimes they call upon the occupant of the grave, saying “O my master, I have come to you from far away, so do not let me down.”

Allah says: “And who is more astray than one who calls besides Allah such as will not answer him till the Day of Resurrection, and who are unaware of their calls to them?” [al-Ahqaaf 46:5]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever dies calling on someone else as a rival to Allah, will enter Hell.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, al-Fath, 8/176).

Shirk at Graves | Pakistan Politics & Current Affairs | Chowrangi

dnt ask me 2 post thoz beautiful stff, i got mny

 

[KillBill]

I am just wondering what was the religion of a caveman

 

[Huda]

neend arahi hai but meri downloadind khatm nhi horahi

 

[Hyde]

I am just wondering what was the religion of a caveman

Believe in One God!...................................

 

[rangbaaz]

I am just wondering what was the religion of a caveman

none, thts y he wz a cavemn

 

[Hyde]

Long Lecture

Chacha Pharsalli Shareef

This is not a religious thread. Go and argue with Maulvi saab

I still do not find anything wrong in visiting any holy shrines - as long as you are not going against the teachings of Islam

Worshipping is obviously a shirk - that i am yet to see anybody doing.

 

[KillBill]

neend arahi hai but meri downloadind khatm nhi horahi

kya aap neend download kar rahe hain internet se?

 

[KillBill]

Believe in One God!...................................

I doubt, he even knew that there was any god.

So If I go by the wise sayings, wont he be able to go to heaven on the day of judgement?

He never prayed, he never believed in any prophets etc...

 

[KillBill]

none, thts y he wz a cavemn

And how believing in any religion made our life any better ?

 

[rangbaaz]

Chacha Pharsalli Shareef

This is not a religious thread. Go and argue with Maulvi saab

I still do not find anything wrong in visiting any holy shrines - as long as you are not going against the teachings of Islam

Worshipping is obviously a shirk - that i am yet to see anybody doing.

sms generation.

 

[Hyde]

I doubt, he even knew that there was any god.

So If I go by the wise sayings, wont he be able to go to heaven on the day of judgement?

He never prayed, he never believed in any prophets etc...

Don't know