What Will Pakistan-Saudi Arabia Ties Look Like Under Imran Khan?

[Rusty]

Iran will never make any kind of compromises on her relations with Hindustan for Pakistan (Rightly so, coz it's in her interest) then why should Pakistan compromise it's national interests for being Pro-Iran without any significant benefits? Pak-Iran relations can be improved to friendly neighbors from being neutral at this point without compromising Pakistan's strategic relations with KSA who stood with Pakistan most of times in troubled patches.

Why does Iran have to compromise Indian relations?
US and Canada has the closest relationship in the world, but during the 60s the Americans forced everyone to stop relations with Cuba... do you know who didn't? CANADA!
To this day Canada still has relations with Cuba.

Point being, As long as Iran does not allow Indian military on their soil, we should not ask them to choose between us and India.

Open border, increase trade, built a train and increase tourism.

 

[Sugarcane]

this isnt that im implying either.....Economic relations will keep going with even America. Its just the strategic and wholesome economic trajectory of our country which is pivoted towards Asia.

And that wont change for nobody!.

In case you aren't aware, KSA is also part of Asia and is an important part. From the changes happening on world stage it's clear that soon it's going to be Asia vs Europe + Americas. That's why KSA is also changing her gears and enhancing the relationship with China.

And no, we really didnt ditch them on syria/yemen. We still train them so is our army permanently stationed in Saudia. We even provide them ISR in their yemeni ops. We r neutral and will stay because our policy is always clear in such issues which r internal infighting amongst Muslim world ie neutrality and take them sit and talk to wave off their differences, like even IK has said.

Funny that on one hand you are professing neutrality and on other hand suggesting to increase relations with Iran on expense of another strategic partner. We ditched KSA over Syria & Yemen and publically embarrassed them, we aren't doing anything for them in Syria and whatever help we are extending on Yemen was damage control, it's hard fact.

 

[Sugarcane]

Why does Iran have to compromise Indian relations?
US and Canada has the closest relationship in the world, but during the 60s the Americans forced everyone to stop relations with Cuba... do you know who didn't? CANADA!
To this day Canada still has relations with Cuba.

Point being, As long as Iran does not allow Indian military on their soil, we should not ask them to choose between us and India.

Open border, increase trade, built a train and increase tourism.

Where I said that Iran should compromise Indian relations? All I am saying is that we shouldn't also compromise our relations just to have good relations with Iran.

 

[Rusty]

Where I said that Iran should compromise Indian relations? All I am saying is that we shouldn't also compromise our relations just to have good relations with Iran.

Agreed.

But our intrests mainly lie in India not having any military assets on our western border.
So long as that doens't happen, we should have good relations with all our neighbors.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

In case you aren't aware, KSA is also part of Asia and is an important part. From the changes happening on world stage it's clear that soon it's going to be Asia vs Europe + Americas. That's why KSA is also changing her gears and enhancing the relationship with China.



Funny that on one hand you are professing neutrality and on other hand suggesting to increase relations with Iran on expense of another strategic partner. We ditched KSA over Syria & Yemen and publically embarrassed them, we aren't doing anything for them in Syria and whatever help we are extending on Yemen was damage control, it's hard fact.

Good 4 KSA but in mean time its doing the American israeli dirty work in ME....and we dont want that. Plus it already has preferable relations with india....so who is stopping us to have with iran.

Anyway i have made my point, its just that yr not understanding it in changing global trends scenario.

If u put all of my arguments together(of all my posts in this thread), and then analyse it........u will reach to same conclusion that Pakistan will go ahead with new relations and in search for new markets to increase her exports too.....And if someone dont like it, its their problem. A country like America, KSA need Pakistan more then we need them.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

There is one huge spoiler in Pak-Saudi relations and it's not Iran. Saudi Arabia should stop at once to be a middleman between America and Pakistan and keep the relationship strictly bilateral. When America fail in its objectives in its direct dealings with Pakistan, it use Saudi Arabia to put pressure on Pakistan and make it "halal" for Pakistan to except things. That offer from Saudia Arabia to IK for release of Nawaz Shareef was a diabolical mistake.

 

[Dark-Destroyer]

Saudi Arabia needs to start investing in Pakistan’s infrastructure and industries

 

[Sugarcane]

Good 4 KSA but in mean time its doing the American israeli dirty work in ME....and we dont want that. Plus it already has preferable relations with india....so who is stopping us to have with iran.

Anyway i have made my point, its just that yr not understanding it in changing global trends scenario.

If u put all of my arguments together(of all my posts in this thread), and then analyse it........u will reach to same conclusion that Pakistan will go ahead with new relations and in search for new markets to increase her exports too.....And if someone dont like it, its their problem. A country like America, KSA need Pakistan more then we need them.

Your posts are nothing other than emotional fan boy stuff, State relations are not managed like kindergarten kids. Every country has leverage & counter leverage against other country to keep the relationship balanced and avoid blackmail - it's only fool who will let the leverage go and enter into one dimensional relationship.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Your posts are nothing other than emotional fan boy stuff, State relations are not managed like kindergarten kids. Every country has leverage & counter leverage against other country to keep the relationship balanced and avoid blackmail - it's only fool who will let the leverage go and enter into one dimensional relationship.

These r the stated policy of our country, u probably dont live here so u dont know.

Both Iran n Saudis need to chose b/w a Muslim Pakistan and a Hindu India, whoever chooses Pakistan then Pakistan will chose her.

Right now our policy is very clear ie neutrality and bringing both to negotiating table for peace.As stated by IK in his first victory speech.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

@LoveIcon always remember in long run both these countries need us then we need them.

 

[Sugarcane]

Agreed.

But our intrests mainly lie in India not having any military assets on our western border.
So long as that doens't happen, we should have good relations with all our neighbors.

We have good chance to improve relationship with Iran because of recent developments in Afghan theater where US funded ISIS is threat to all regional countries, and there's no other way for both other than cooperate, So nobody is giving anyone favor as it's mutually beneficial. We must utilize this opportunity to increase our economic relationship as well as closer military cooperation to deny third country space to operate against each other. We don't need any comprise on our relations with KSA (as some people wish) just to make Iran happy as there's no benefit for us in this but huge economic and international clout loss. In simple word PAKISTAN FIRST should be our policy.

 

[Sugarcane]

These r the stated policy of our country, u probably dont live here so u dont know.

Both Iran n Saudis need to chose b/w a Muslim Pakistan and a Hindu India, whoever chooses Pakistan then Pakistan will chose her.

You are quite funny indeed

 

[Umair Nawaz]

You are quite funny indeed

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/imra...saudi-arabia-and-iran-arab-news.573959/page-4

Read @BHarwana 's comments to fully understand whats going on n why im saying this. U need to understand larger context its not b/w Iran and Saudia its b/w choosing China and America. If saudia chooses China too like Pakistan we will have no problem but a saudia of MBS being run by israelis n americans is not acceptable to nor Pakistan for her own local interests nor her larger global interests involving China-Russia pivot.

 

[Sugarcane]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/imran-khan-must-choose-between-saudi-arabia-and-iran-arab-news.573959/page-4

Read @BHarwana 's comments to fully understand whats going on n why im saying this. U need to understand larger context its not b/w Iran and Saudia its b/w choosing China and America. If saudia chooses China too like Pakistan we will have no problem but a saudia of MBS being run by israelis n americans is not acceptable to nor Pakistan for her own local interests nor her larger global interests involving China-Russia pivot.

He is not Pakistan's strategic planner, and his opinion worth same as any other PDF poster include me.
State relations aren't black and white, the gray portion is much larger in that it will remain so unless there's WW3 and every country directly gets involve in it. China will continue to maintain and will keep trying to improve relations with KSA, Iran and even India, so will Pakistan.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

He is not Pakistan's strategic planner, and his opinion worth same as any other PDF poster include me.
State relations aren't black and white, the gray portion is much larger in that it will remain so unless there's WW3 and every country directly gets involve in it. China will continue to maintain and will keep trying to improve relations with KSA, Iran and even India, so will Pakistan.

now dont quote me, i have shown u the right thread and the person, whose comments r more closer to the policy and logic, go ahead quote him on that thread and tell him abt all yr reservations.