What will it take for action to be taken on the situation in Karachi?

[SQ8]

End of Garhi Khuda baksh thought process.

 

[Areesh]

Just nuke Karachi

Drop an atomic bomb on Karachi and get over it

Hum Karachi walon ki jaan choro

@Starlord

 

[jupiter2007]

Nothing will happen. Its a systematic destruction backed by establishment to move industries to lahore islamabad or in future gwadar.

Karachi was always treated as a step child. Even Indians are now making videos about the treatment of Karachi.

Absolutely

PTI is on a learning curve and as a populous we need to put pressure on every politician.to perform

PPP, Pmln etc are NEVER going to change so we have to back the only party we can pressure to change itself and Pakistan

The whole system is like a rotten onion. PTI can’t fix everything, just patching the rotten system won’t fix the fundamental problems. Also, Corrupt mafia and establishment will never allow PTI to have 2/3 majority. 30 years of MarshalLawPlus plan is the only way to fix things.
China should also support Pakistani communist party.

 

[El Sidd]

Its drizzling again


Goodluck everyone

Let's see, here are the options:

a. Make moral arguments to convince the Sindh government to take responsibility and take care of its citizens
Fat chance! The people holding office are corrupt, selfish, greedy, and shameless about it

b. Vote the Sindh government out of power
The way things are right now, the influence (brute power) of the landed mafia, and the poverty of rural Sindh, makes it almost impossible to vote them out of power. There are no viable alternative political groups in rural Sindh

c. Force the current Sindh government to take care of its citizens by legal means
This is attempted every once in a while by an excited Chief Justice, but it never works because there is no concerted effort by the three centres of power (judiciary, federal govt, military). The SC judge is not an urban planner, and there are many, many ways in our corrupt legal system to dodge even a direct order by an SC judge - case in point, the Karachi Circular Railway.

d. Educate urban and rural Sindhis (yes, that includes all ethnic groups who live in Sindh) so they are able to vote for better people
Long term, this is by far the best solution. The problem is that it cannot be done with the current provincial government in power. So it has to be done in conjunction with one of the other options below.

e. Declare Karachi a federal city permanently, or declare Karachi a province (essentially the same thing)
The federal government will need a 2/3rd majority. And there may be other legal considerations that I am not familiar with. Of course, there will be serious retaliation from those who are in power now (in the province), and there is a risk of it turning into a long term, terrorist movement like Balochistan. Nevertheless, this is a viable solution

f. Impose Governor rule temporarily
This may be the most realistic option, and the best solution long term. Here is how it should work. The federal government covertly encourages people to protest. This will give them the pretext to intervene, and impose governor rule.

Once in power, the federal government will have to ruthlessly dismantle the rotten bureaucracy that has been put in place by the previous governments, and do everything possible to erode the power of the feudals.

The new government would then have to step in and provide services like healthcare, education, utilities, roads, and other infrastructure. There will be three outcomes from these actions by the government:

• The people of Sindh would be won over by the new government because of the new services
• The people of Sindh will have the freedom to vote for the right people
• The people of Sindh will have the education to vote for the right people

I know I am simplifying things. Nevertheless, I believe it can be done if there is a will by the federal government.

@El Sidd @Imran Khan @Moonlight @shahbaz baig @AgNoStiC MuSliM @jaibi @Old School @newb3e @Alternatiiv @hussain0216 @mikkix @python-000 @Chakar The Great

India aur Iran nahi maanege. baqi try karlen saray mansoobay

 

[I.R.A]

As long as it benefits the jarnails nothing is going to happen. The day their interests are at risk you will see how quickly this Sindh card vanishes. If they can keep check on an ordinary citizen's activities they surely knew launches full of money leaving Karachi, these waderas and politicians are their minions, to be kept and exploited for their own gain.

This useless incompetent PTI government is only good at hiding behind 18th amendment, others incompetence and corruption, no one has ever seriously criticized their two year performance, from Peshawar BRT to rising prices and inflation they have no clue.

 

[I.R.A]

Cleaning streets of a city is not the responsibility of federal government. Asal main yeh Kam city government ko krna chahiye and provincial government ko ussay funds dainay chahiyeen

Please move forward to the next step. City government and Provincial government ko karna chaiay qisa e pareena ho gya hy ........ Federal ko in halat may kya karna chaiay? Ub Nawaz corrupt hy chor hy kay naray marna band karo aur kam btao kya kia hy 2 saal may? Her banda Karachi may DHA aur Bahria may ghar nai bana skta. Karachi is responsibility of State of Pakistan and for the time being PTI is at the helm of Pakistani state.

Kab tak PPP ko karna chaiay kay lollipop do gay?

 

[I.R.A]

Federal ko apna Kam krna chahiye. Tamam governments ki apni responsibilities hain. Agar Sara Kam federal government na krna ha to provincial governments pa kyon billions spend kiye jarhay hain?

Ertugrul Niazi nay Karachi say vote liay hain ya nai? Federal hamesha k liay PPP aur city government ki na ehli kay peechay nai chup sakti. Qanoon sazi kar kay muamlat sudhary ja skty hain, agar MQM london aur Pakistan ban skti hain tou PPP b Garhi Baksh tak mehdood ho skti hy.

 

[El Sidd]

Un votes sa Sindh main government nhi bani. PP na Rahim Yar khan aur Muzzafargarh main PTI sa ziada votes liye hain to Kya un areas ka PP sa sasab mangna chahiye?

Who are you to talk about other cities?

Kisne ijazat di ya aap bhi Karachi me rehte ho?

Life in those areas of Punjab is not bad. And kp kbhi dekha nhi. Don't know why you think these are some very underdeveloped areas? All rural agricultural densely populated areas from the border of Sindh to Sialkot are same

aren't you like some zameendar or something?

 

[I.R.A]

Un votes sa Sindh main government nhi bani. PP na Rahim Yar khan aur Muzzafargarh main PTI sa ziada votes liye hain to Kya un areas ka PP sa sasab mangna chahiye?

Aisa karo jo NA ki 14 seats PTI nay Karachi say jeeti hain wo wapis kar do. Koi sharam koi haya.

 

[I.R.A]

Seats wapas nhi hotin. Agar Karachi walon ko apnay 14 MNAs pasand nhi hain to unka Ghar jakar asteefa mang lain unka Ghar bhi Karachi main ha. Phir by election hoga jisko mrzi vote dain

Ertugrul Niazi Karachi walo k ghar gya tha in MNAs k liay vote mangnay. Awam iss ki noker nai lagi. Karachi ki NA ki seats wapis karo agar koi sharam haya baki hy.

 

[fitpOsitive]

This is an honest question, not a rhetorical one. I would like to get your views.

What do you think needs to happen, what is the red line, what will it take for the three axes of power - the federal government, the judiciary, and the military, to get on the "same page" and do something about Karachi.

I am not including the provincial government in this equation, because currently they are the ones with the power, and they have failed.

Handover Karachi and hyderabad and Mirpur Khas to jamat e Islami, and pull out these regions out of quota system(their budget should also be separate). Trust me, things will change dramatically. Mohajir national movement will die in one night, as Some politicians have kept it alive through their actions since past 40 years.
The proposed regions perform best under Jamat e Islami. Its jamat e islami under which Karachi was one of advanced cities in Asia, and I think, Jamat can do that again.
I am against all politics though, but if people need a political solution, then it's the best political solution.

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

Nothing.

Wait for torment from Allah, it will affect everyone from Karachi to Islamabad

 

[fitpOsitive]

kisi k baap ka mal ha Jo handover kardain ga? JI sa kaho election ki tayari karo aap unka liye campaign chalana agar Jeet bhi gayi in areas sa to opposition main hogi ya pp ki ally

Pora Pakistan ager kisi ko dia jasakta hai tu chota area tu dia hi jasakta hai. And it was a humble opinion.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Kisi ko kuch nhi diya jaskta vote lainay prtay hain.

Sahi.
Per vote usi ko perhtay hain Jis k liay halat sazgar hotay hain.
Or halat sazgar her aik k liay nai hotay.

 

[El Sidd]

Aap sa mang laitay Hain ijazat. Umeed ha da dain ga.

Main aik aam Pakistani shehri hon

agay wala darwaza try karlen