What it's like inside the internment camps China uses to oppress its Muslim minority, according to p

[Flash_Ninja]

Let me get this right as well.

1. You will not give me numbers.

2. You claim is that Pakistan is fighting a war on terror.
Well, I have news for you. Most countries don't believe you are and even if you are - you are selectively doing so. Wtf is "good taliban, bad taliban".

3. Statewide Oppression and Bloody Occupation? Haha - what oppression? And what occupation? If this were the case - foreign embassies in India would be inundated with applications for people wanting to get out. Which was the case in the 1980s with the Sikh population who actually faced oppression at the height of the Punjab problem.
So statistics and facts don't bear your ridiculous hypothesis.

4. Refugees? LOL - is that your excuse? India hosts about 100,000 refugees from China. Given that you probably have what about a million Afghans - we should have about 10% of that problem. But we don't. We didn't when we had 10 million East Pakistani refugees. Turkey and Jordan have more refugees than Pakistan today - is that an excuse for them?

So instead of burying your head in the sand and coming up with excuses - get it out and smell the coffee.

And yea - give me the numbers. When an Indian Muslim steps out on the street - the chances of him returning home safe and sound are higher than when a Pakistani Muslim steps out the street.

As far the world can see - you always find an enemy to fight with. First it was Hindus - so you got your Pakistan. Then when it was majority Muslim - you had a problem with Bengali Muslims and then Bangladesh happened.
Now depending on who you ask - it seems the problem is Ahmadiya, Shia, Sunni, Pashtuns, Afghan refugees - god knows what else.

1. Still on this how dumb are you? you cant compare the numbers of an active warzone, and claim it as proof. I've shown that there is sytematic discrimination towards Muslims in India, you have completely straw-manned the original argument, so please use some basic logic instead of barking like some rabid dog.

2. Nobody cares what Rakesh in Mumbai thinks, every country that Pakistan has regular contact with has acknowledged Pakistans role in the war on terror.

3. Lets start with your only Muslim majority "state", hmm no im sure firing on civillians, denying civil rights, cutting communication networks, taking human shields, stopping religious events, and profiliing Muslims is perfectly normal behaviour.

...and yeah the country with the largest asylum seeking population in the world has no problems at home LOL, Even in Pakistan there are a dozen refugee camps housing people running from Kashmir alone.

4.Ridiculous. You are trying to compare a country hosting 100k refugees, to one that is 7 times smaller hosting 3 million+. Supapowa couldnt even handle dealing with a handful of Rohingya and here you are bragging about how its no problem hosting them.

Turkey and Jordan host Syrians and Palestinians, Pakistan primarily hosts Afghans, they are completely different people.

5.LOL nice story, too bad its not based in reality. Still its absolutely hilarious to see how Indians are becoming more and more delusional by the day.

 

[Jackdaws]

1. Still on this how dumb are you? you cant compare the numbers of an active warzone, and claim it as proof. I've shown that there is sytematic discrimination towards Muslims in India, you have completely straw-manned the original argument, so please use some basic logic instead of barking like some rabid dog.

2. Nobody cares what Rakesh in Mumbai thinks, every country that Pakistan has regular contact with has acknowledged Pakistans role in the war on terror.

3. Lets start with your only Muslim majority "state", hmm no im sure firing on civillians, denying civil rights, cutting communication networks, taking human shields, stopping religious events, and profiliing Muslims is perfectly normal behaviour.

...and yeah the country with the largest asylum seeking population in the world has no problems at home LOL, Even in Pakistan there are a dozen refugee camps housing people running from Kashmir alone.

4.Ridiculous. You are trying to compare a country hosting 100k refugees, to one that is 7 times smaller hosting 3 million+. Supapowa couldnt even handle dealing with a handful of Rohingya and here you are bragging about how its no problem hosting them.

Turkey and Jordan host Syrians and Palestinians, Pakistan primarily hosts Afghans, they are completely different people.

5.LOL nice story, too bad its not based in reality. Still its absolutely hilarious to see how Indians are becoming more and more delusional by the day.

So I guess no numbers. Again. Lol.


1. Active war zone? Lol. Your entire country is an active war zone? In which alternate reality did that happen?

2. No body cares what some Aslam in Bradford or some other ghetto thinks. Reality is that every Western country worth its salt and many international media outlets have pointed at Pakistan's less than stellar record on WoT and its duplicity.

3. Yes. A lot of what you say happens in Kashmir. But out of about 200 million Indian Muslims less than 5% are in the valley. Still it is a 2 way street and an ideological fight.

4. I also mentioned that at one point we had 10 million Pakistani refugees too. Nice dodge. And no, having refugees doesn't mean it leads to violence.

5. Story? Hahahha. You can't counter facts.

Again. Give me numbers.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

1. Active war zone? Lol. Your entire country is an active war zone? In which alternate reality did that happen?

2. No body cares what some Aslam in Bradford or some other ghetto thinks. Reality is that every Western country worth its salt and many international media outlets have pointed at Pakistan's less than stellar record on WoT and its duplicity.

3. Yes. A lot of what you say happens in Kashmir. But out of about 200 million Indian Muslims less than 5% are in the valley. Still it is a 2 way street and an ideological fight.

4. I also mentioned that at one point we had 10 million Pakistani refugees too. Nice dodge. And no, having refugees doesn't mean it leads to violence.

5. Story? Hahahha. You can't counter facts.

1. Being this delusional LOL, you spend all day on a Pakistani forum and still cant see the well documented war on terror that is being fought across the country.

2. According to Rakesh in Mumbai, in the real world however they have all respected and often praised Pakistans role; sorry if this doesn't get reported on RSS news network.

3. Hmm so now this region is irrelevant even though its your ONLY MUSLIM MAJORITY state. LOL you call this an argument how pathetic.

4. There is no dodge, say something relevant to the discussion. Even your supreme leader was crying that you couldnt possibly take in any rohingya, yet once again you are here embarrassing yourself and contradicting your own state policy.

5. Facts LOL, provide some not some mental masturbation that nobody in the real world cares about.

6. If you think discriminatory policies are based on a figure that you can compare with a Muslim majority state with then you are delusional; but if it will shut you up here is a long list of massacres taken place in India, notice the disproportionate number of Muslims being slaughtered:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_India

Lets compare that with the handful of mostly terror related massacres in Pakistan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Pakistan

Now what?

 

[Jackdaws]

1. Being this delusional LOL, you spend all day on a Pakistani forum and still cant see the well documented war on terror that is being fought across the country.

2. According to Rakesh in Mumbai, in the real world however they have all respected and often praised Pakistans role; sorry if this doesn't get reported on RSS news network.

3. Hmm so now this region is irrelevant even though its your ONLY MUSLIM MAJORITY state. LOL you call this an argument how pathetic.

4. There is no dodge, say something relevant to the discussion. Even your supreme leader was crying that you couldnt possibly take in any rohingya, yet once again you are here embarrassing yourself and contradicting your own state policy.

5. Facts LOL, provide some not some mental masturbation that nobody in the real world cares about.

6. If you think discriminatory policies are based on a figure that you can compare with a Muslim majority state with then you are delusional; but if it will shut you up here is a long list of massacres taken place in India, notice the disproportionate number of Muslims being slaughtered:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_India

Lets compare that with the handful of mostly terror related massacres in Pakistan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Pakistan

Now what?

Hahahhahaha - this is your "logical" argument?

1. Pakistan on WoT
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/10/pakistan-shows-long-history-of-duplicity/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anders...duplicity-and-broken-promises-on-afghanistan/

There are scores of other links

2. But according to Aslam from Bradford, the local Mullah in the Madrassa doesn't think so, hence it much be true - lol

3.Irrelevant? Who said that? If it were irrelevant it wouldn't have been such a bone of contention.

4. Once again dodging the point about 10 million East Pakistani refugees in India. Yawn. What a surprise.

5. Facts? From you? That would be the day.

6. Nice job posting links which themselves say they are incomplete. Not to mention Indian list includes terror deaths while Pakistan has such a long list that there is a separate page for it.

Well done. I wouldn't expect anything less from Aslam from Bradford. Madrassa chief must be proud of both - the lack of facts and the lack of logic.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

1. Pakistan on WoT
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/10/pakistan-shows-long-history-of-duplicity/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anders...duplicity-and-broken-promises-on-afghanistan/

There are scores of other links

2. But according to Aslam from Bradford, the local Mullah in the Madrassa doesn't think so, hence it much be true - lol

3.Irrelevant? Who said that? If it were irrelevant it wouldn't have been such a bone of contention.

4. Once again dodging the point about 10 million East Pakistani refugees in India. Yawn. What a surprise.

5. Facts? From you? That would be the day.

6. Nice job posting links which themselves say they are incomplete. Not to mention Indian list includes terror deaths while Pakistan has such a long list that there is a separate page for it.

1. LOL so all you can dig up is biased opinion pieces and somehow this means that "everybody knows that Pakistan bla bla bla..."

Lets move back in the real world shall we, here is a collection of news links from literally the first page of google:

https://www.news18.com/news/world/j...ns-contribution-to-war-on-terror-1449583.html

https://www.newzimbabwe.com/zimbabw...tan-praises-islamabads-war-against-terrorism/

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/w...istans-counter-terrorism-efforts-2517475.html

https://timesofislamabad.com/07-Apr...-one-by-pakistan-army-on-it-s-soil-us-manuals

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11651039/...a/t/bush-praises-pakistans-help-terror-fight/

https://www.deccanherald.com/content/102790/white-house-praises-pakistans-role.html

https://tribune.com.pk/story/925516...eral-lauds-pakistans-role-in-afghan-dialogue/

https://thepolicytimes.com/us-praise-pakistan-not-worry-india/

wow you really got me there

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2. Once again nobody cares what Rakesh streetsh*tter thinks, you are trying to present your own emotional opinion as fact and it is so pathetic to watch

3. I brought it up and suddenly you tried to shift the goalposts as if it doesnt count hmm.. either you are desperately trying to make it seem irrelevant or you cant even comprehend or put together a single argument in defence.

4. if they exist they are irrelevant, I dont care about events that occured more than two decades ago as they are completely irrelevant. Stop trying to strawman and actually answer my argument.

5. Once again you failed to present anything, you made up some brain defecation onto your post that made no sense and tried to present it as though it was gospel. LOL nice job

6. Please enlighten me, because so far all I see is a long page full of mob violence and massacres with a disproportionate number of them being Muslim victims. You were literally begging for this yourself, and now you cant even come up with a good enough retort to answer for it.

Please try harder Rakesh, you need to actually use that brain cell if you want to earn your paycheck

 

[Jackdaws]

1. LOL so all you can dig up is biased opinion pieces and somehow this means that "everybody knows that Pakistan bla bla bla..."

Lets move back in the real world shall we, here is a collection of news links from literally the first page of google:

https://www.news18.com/news/world/j...ns-contribution-to-war-on-terror-1449583.html

https://www.newzimbabwe.com/zimbabw...tan-praises-islamabads-war-against-terrorism/

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/w...istans-counter-terrorism-efforts-2517475.html

https://timesofislamabad.com/07-Apr...-one-by-pakistan-army-on-it-s-soil-us-manuals

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11651039/...a/t/bush-praises-pakistans-help-terror-fight/

https://www.deccanherald.com/content/102790/white-house-praises-pakistans-role.html

https://tribune.com.pk/story/925516...eral-lauds-pakistans-role-in-afghan-dialogue/

https://thepolicytimes.com/us-praise-pakistan-not-worry-india/

wow you really got me there

• 

2. Once again nobody cares what Rakesh streetsh*tter thinks, you are trying to present your own emotional opinion as fact and it is so pathetic to watch

3. I brought it up and suddenly you tried to shift the goalposts as if it doesnt count hmm.. either you are desperately trying to make it seem irrelevant or you cant even comprehend or put together a single argument in defence.

4. if they exist they are irrelevant, I dont care about events that occured more than two decades ago as they are completely irrelevant. Stop trying to strawman and actually answer my argument.

5. Once again you failed to present anything, you made up some brain defecation onto your post that made no sense and tried to present it as though it was gospel. LOL nice job

6. Please enlighten me, because so far all I see is a long page full of mob violence and massacres with a disproportionate number of them being Muslim victims. You were literally begging for this yourself, and now you cant even come up with a good enough retort to answer for it.

Please try harder Rakesh, you need to actually use that brain cell if you want to earn your paycheck

1. Hahahhahahahaha - "Biased opinion pieces" as opposed to sources from Zimbabwe? LOL

Meanwhile in the real world - where was Osama found? And not even in some remote village - bang in the middle of a garrison town.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704322804576303553679080310

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13328083

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/03/osama-bin-laden-pakistan-cameron?intcmp=239

And who is being penalized for state sponsored terror -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ding-state-donald-trump-twitter-a8139876.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ist-financing-watchlist-sources-idUSKCN1G70X7


Aslam from Bradford might not realize it but WSJ, BBC and Guardian are more reliable sources in the democratic world than Zimbabwean news sources. LOL.


2. No one cares what an illegally emigrated dung scavenger from Bradford thinks. Read some real sources.

3. Who is shifting goalposts? You present links which actually state that they might not be complete. LOL. That's what happens when you take the word of your local mullah as gospel as opposed to thinking for yourself.

4. "disproportionate number of them being Muslim victims" - hahahaha - looks like Math is not a subject in the local madrassa. Even if one looks at for the past 30 odd years - it seems you just can't count. Which is not a surprise.

Don't bother trying Aslam, it's not your cup of tea. But do continue entertaining me with your lack of logic. It's kind of amusing.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Hahahhahahahaha - "Biased opinion pieces" as opposed to sources from Zimbabwe?

Believe me they are for more relevant to Pakistan than you people will ever be

1. Hahahhahahahaha - "Biased opinion pieces" as opposed to sources from Zimbabwe? LOL

Meanwhile in the real world - where was Osama found? And not even in some remote village - bang in the middle of a garrison town.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704322804576303553679080310

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13328083

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/03/osama-bin-laden-pakistan-cameron?intcmp=239

And who is being penalized for state sponsored terror -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ding-state-donald-trump-twitter-a8139876.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ist-financing-watchlist-sources-idUSKCN1G70X7


Aslam from Bradford might not realize it but WSJ, BBC and Guardian are more reliable sources in the democratic world than Zimbabwean news sources. LOL.


2. No one cares what an illegally emigrated dung scavenger from Bradford thinks. Read some real sources.

3. Who is shifting goalposts? You present links which actually state that they might not be complete. LOL. That's what happens when you take the word of your local mullah as gospel as opposed to thinking for yourself.

4. "disproportionate number of them being Muslim victims" - hahahaha - looks like Math is not a subject in the local madrassa. Even if one looks at for the past 30 odd years - it seems you just can't count. Which is not a surprise.

Don't bother trying Aslam, it's not your cup of tea. But do continue entertaining me with your lack of logic. It's kind of amusing.

1. Your daddy Obama stated quite clearly that he was found with Pakistani cooperation.

...and yeah I posted about 8 links that I found from the first page of google alone and you singled out one because it came from a Zimbabwean. You literally have NO argument, this is why you have to resort to irrelevant tangents and strawmans.

2. Your country is LITERALLY WORLD FAMOUS for consuming cow urine and slathering themeselves in feces, and you have the gall to call me a "dung scavenger"

3. You were begging for these links, and now confronted with them you claim that they are incomplete. Once again im asking you to fill in whatever missing gaps there are, this is literally your main and only argument and you are trying to get me to finish your own argument for you LOL

4. The link I presented shows that the majority of massacres are not only against Muslims, but in these massacres Muslims have a significantly higher casualty or injury rate. How is this not disproportionately higher?

Mods I think this "senior member" needs another needs another ban, they've thoroughly derailed this discussion and have to resort to emotional attacks because they have no argument @waz @Horus

 

[Jackdaws]

Believe me they are for more relevant to Pakistan than you people will ever be




1. Your daddy Obama stated quite clearly that he was found with Pakistani cooperation.

...and yeah I posted about 8 links that I found from the first page of google alone and you singled out one because it came from a Zimbabwean. You literally have NO argument, this is why you have to resort to irrelevant tangents and strawmans.

2. Your country is LITERALLY WORLD FAMOUS for consuming cow urine and slathering themeselves in feces, and you have the gall to call me a "dung scavenger"

3. You were begging for these links, and now confronted with them you claim that they are incomplete. Once again im asking you to fill in whatever missing gaps there are, this is literally your main and only argument and you are trying to get me to finish your own argument for you LOL

4. The link I presented shows that the majority of massacres are not only against Muslims, but in these massacres Muslims have a significantly higher casualty or injury rate. How is this not disproportionately higher?

Mods I think this "senior member" needs another needs another ban, they've thoroughly derailed this discussion and have to resort to emotional attacks because they have no argument @waz @Horus

Yea. Crux of your argument -

1. Links from. Zimbabwe

2. Incomplete lists

3. Unable to count

4. Run to mods when you don't have any facts.

Bravo.

 

[master_13]

Indian should stop killing muslims in Kashmir.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Yea. Crux of your argument -

1. Links from. Zimbabwe

2. Incomplete lists

3. Unable to count

4. Run to mods when you don't have any facts.

Bravo.

Strawman, Whataboutism, cognitive dissonance, sums up everything you've posted

Probably one of the dumber trolls i've come across on this website

 

[Jackdaws]

Strawman, Whataboutism, cognitive dissonance, sums up everything you've posted

Probably one of the dumber trolls i've come across on this website

Yawn. Same old tale. Doesn't have a reply so will type gibberish.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Yawn. Same old tale. Doesn't have a reply so will type gibberish.

English must be gibberish to you, because you have repeatedly failed to present any logical argument

 

[Jackdaws]

English must be gibberish to you, because you have repeatedly failed to present any logical argument

Sure. Articles from WSJ, Guardian, Independent etc. are gibberish but you have found the holy grail in Zimbabwean blogs. Now get someone to translate some of the links from these newspapers into Urdu so that you can grasp them.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Sure. Articles from WSJ, Guardian, Independent etc. are gibberish but you have found the holy grail in Zimbabwean blogs. Now get someone to translate some of the links from these newspapers into Urdu so that you can grasp them.

Yes because irrelevant articles dont prove your point, since you have the iq of dung beetle let me show you the posts again, including the Zimbabwe media house reporting on Zimbabwe-Pakistan relations:

1. Being this delusional LOL, you spend all day on a Pakistani forum and still cant see the well documented war on terror that is being fought across the country.

2. According to Rakesh in Mumbai, in the real world however they have all respected and often praised Pakistans role; sorry if this doesn't get reported on RSS news network.

3. Hmm so now this region is irrelevant even though its your ONLY MUSLIM MAJORITY state. LOL you call this an argument how pathetic.

4. There is no dodge, say something relevant to the discussion. Even your supreme leader was crying that you couldnt possibly take in any rohingya, yet once again you are here embarrassing yourself and contradicting your own state policy.

5. Facts LOL, provide some not some mental masturbation that nobody in the real world cares about.

6. If you think discriminatory policies are based on a figure that you can compare with a Muslim majority state with then you are delusional; but if it will shut you up here is a long list of massacres taken place in India, notice the disproportionate number of Muslims being slaughtered:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_India

Lets compare that with the handful of mostly terror related massacres in Pakistan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Pakistan

Now what?

1. LOL so all you can dig up is biased opinion pieces and somehow this means that "everybody knows that Pakistan bla bla bla..."

Lets move back in the real world shall we, here is a collection of news links from literally the first page of google:

https://www.news18.com/news/world/j...ns-contribution-to-war-on-terror-1449583.html

https://www.newzimbabwe.com/zimbabw...tan-praises-islamabads-war-against-terrorism/

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/w...istans-counter-terrorism-efforts-2517475.html

https://timesofislamabad.com/07-Apr...-one-by-pakistan-army-on-it-s-soil-us-manuals

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11651039/...a/t/bush-praises-pakistans-help-terror-fight/

https://www.deccanherald.com/content/102790/white-house-praises-pakistans-role.html

https://tribune.com.pk/story/925516...eral-lauds-pakistans-role-in-afghan-dialogue/

https://thepolicytimes.com/us-praise-pakistan-not-worry-india/

wow you really got me there

• 

2. Once again nobody cares what Rakesh streetsh*tter thinks, you are trying to present your own emotional opinion as fact and it is so pathetic to watch

3. I brought it up and suddenly you tried to shift the goalposts as if it doesnt count hmm.. either you are desperately trying to make it seem irrelevant or you cant even comprehend or put together a single argument in defence.

4. if they exist they are irrelevant, I dont care about events that occured more than two decades ago as they are completely irrelevant. Stop trying to strawman and actually answer my argument.

5. Once again you failed to present anything, you made up some brain defecation onto your post that made no sense and tried to present it as though it was gospel. LOL nice job

6. Please enlighten me, because so far all I see is a long page full of mob violence and massacres with a disproportionate number of them being Muslim victims. You were literally begging for this yourself, and now you cant even come up with a good enough retort to answer for it.

Please try harder Rakesh, you need to actually use that brain cell if you want to earn your paycheck

 

[Jackdaws]

Yes because irrelevant articles dont prove your point, since you have the iq of dung beetle let me show you the posts again, including the Zimbabwe media house reporting on Zimbabwe-Pakistan relations:

LOL - of course, articles from award winning media outlets are "irrelevant" whilst those from Zimbabwe are touched by divinity. Hahaha. Please continue to live in your make believe world since it suits your narrative. It is amusing if nothing else.