What is the logic behind call to prayer being in arabic in Turkey?

[Timur]

We are intelligent beings that are able to think, some logic please.

you are living in a fantasy world..

you dont use logic you use your grudge towards arabic.. and use it as a shield.. you mock up with the quran the prophet and the religion.. if you would be honest and use intellect or think about it you would not write logic.. because someone who whants to learn islam nad practice islam MUST use arabic.. there is no way..

and from religious point of view you are unlogical and its jahiliyya what you do, you will not find any real serious muslim who will agree with you to change it to turkish..

no one denies to read a tafsir to read an good short meaning of the quran in turkish..

its your mockery and your own stubbornness that is causing all this problems

Can't help but wonder do we have Turks that want to be arabized out of their free will?

translation is:

Can't help but wonder do we have Turks that want to be muslimised out of their free will?

 

[TurkeyForever]

Looks like it's a global problem. Most people here find that loud arab noise annoying as hell but you're denounced as a hater if anyone dare speak about it.

It's comforting to hear people in muslim majority countries also being annoyed with it lol.

They could do so much with technology these days, auto messages, apps, recorded phone calls, gps directions to the closest braying center.. loud speaker pollution in residential areas need to be banned.

You have call to prayers in India?

If that is the case then India is more understanding/democratic than I thought it was. Since you have a problem with Pakistan and them with you.

Giving your enemy the total right to religious freedom is as democratic as you can get.
But I did hear the cows were causing a problem with muslims in India, because it's holy for you and the muslims need to you know do their thing...

A very tricky situation indeed the one with the cows, either way it will mean someone is disrespectful.

 

[Timur]

You have call to prayers in India?

man 172 million musims live in india.. wake up!

 

[TurkeyForever]

yeah I cant see whats in your chest.. as I wrote it above its about the heart.. but the one guy opened this thread because of a discussion with me in another thread maybe he was angry and wanted support..

What thread? You give yourself too much credit.

You mention the heart, how will you know someones heart?

By looking at an xray of the heart perhaps?

We are civilized beings, we need to discuss these things in a civilized manner.

Many people quote the Quran and many muslims think "oh that's a person with a good heart", that isn't how you see who is good and who is bad. Many use religion to get "social acceptance".

The more someone talks about religion with me the more I get suspicious that person has some bad intentions towards me.

It's not always like that, but really good and honest people don't need religion to prove themselves to others.

It's just like those people that swear all the time when they say something, "I swear on this and that it's true".
These are more often than not LIARS.

Because a truthful person doesn't feel the need to swear to make others believe him/her.

Lol
What's with the bestiality and animal dung fetish here?

Fetish is every mans owns business. That is how democracy works

be honest as I wrote it multiple times..

we are protecting the arab language of quran al karim.. and we are not listening to something we do not understand.. I wrote before you read TAFSIR so you understand what you have read! but if you are lazy enough to not do it than that is indeed idiotic to not listen to the saying of your lord..

stop repeating this this makes you lool like a fool.. be honest or stop it..

I am honest.

I never said listening to Gods message is idiotic, I said not understanding it is idiotic and I added that in Turkey we should have it in turkish not arabic, marsian or whatever.

This is TURKEY, not KSA!

arkadaş diyorki romanian guy ve obur ırkçı almanı çok seviyorum diyor sen bunu görmezden geliyorsun ama çocukken camiye gitmissin şimdi evliya oldun demi

Marus and Romanian boys, he just said very disturbing things about you 2, come and protect yourselves my BFF's.

dont mock up with that thats ugly

Sen adam olacaksin dogru yoldasin kanki.

Good on you, you will be a wise man some day.

Nope your so called logic is flawed you're dumb

Ok I am dumb, but you are the one listening to something that you don't understand and you even protect this crazy behavior.

As I mentioned earlier, you are a good example of emotional thinking which is common with arabs. You get angry and use bad words when cornered instead of discussing in a civilized manner.

Just because you're dumb that doesn't mean 80 million don't understand Ezan



You see that's what i mean you find spartans cool but Spartans were a bunch of greek homosexuals, i always loved our own hero's which are ottomans, seljuks, goktürks etc who's more turk now huh?

Arabcı diyordun yunan sevdalısı olduğun ortaya çıktı

Again cursing when cornered and can't discuss in a civilized manner.

Perfect example of arabization, making the people more emotional beings.

Sparta is a joke, now you say I love greeks?

You really don't know how to reply in an intelligent manner do you?

But don't worry you are always welcome in arab lands.

Or maybe not, I wonder if they would even let us in if we were refugees instead?

I highly doubt it.

 

[ashok mourya]

Any one here who have read the holy Quran?

 

[TurkeyForever]

Senden izin mi alacağım birader işine bak

Evet alacaksin o senin abin olur.

Mods

@cabatli_53 @waz

Please close this xenophobe islamophobic thread



You aşağılık kompleksli ezik that marcus and romanian everyday insult turks here and yet you still sukking up to them like a good puppy lol

You feel cornered so you call the mods over and over, how pathetic.

Marcus and Romanian boy, this guy needs some love from you two, hurry up bro's.

Dear its not for your fun.
Similarly, everything can't be made Turkish. If you don't offer the prayers, why does it bother you? If that so, does a dogs bark concerns you? or a Lions roar? Can you make them Turkish as well? Cause we can't understand that as well. But if a dog runs after you, you will understand it even if that dog doen't make any noise.

But we are not dogs now are we?

We are civilized beings, what logic is there in listening to arabic when no one knows arabic?

And for your information yes I do pray, so it's important for me to understand it instead of being forced to listen to some foreign language.

 

[Timur]

Evet alacaksin o senin abin olur.



You feel cornered so you call the mods over and over, how pathetic.

Marcus and Romanian boy, this guy needs some love from you two, hurry up bro's.



But we are not dogs now are we?

We are civilized beings, what logic is there in listening to arabic when no one knows arabic?

And for your information yes I do pray, so it's important for me to understand it instead of being forced to listen to some foreign language.

than lets introduce arabic as second language in school

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Isn't it a done deal???? Haven't they already tried and failed??? Looks like AKP is set for another couple of coming elections.....

 

[TurkeyForever]

Something tells me you won't just stop at the language. Anyways since we are communicating here in English, which means you don't have any problems with the English language and by using the same analogy as with Arabic, you consider the English people superior to you?

Are we forces to listen to english in Turkey 5 times a day and in mosques?

I would be against that too.

But the english we speak and write online is out of FREE WILL, we aren't being forced to speak it, we simply know that it's the most well known language on earth at this age.

It also causes a problem because my country is "turkish" not "arabic".

Other than that the main point being we don't understand it at all.

The Arabic is not official language in the Islam as no such thing exists in the Islam.Islam abusers want to exploit the muslims, therefore want them dependent on their mouths in their lives. So if no one understands it means more power for Islam abusers as in Iran, given the literate rate and the first order in Muslim world.

The Islam is time-friendly religion for all human beings.

I'm all for a NEW LANGUAGE that is advanced and can be understood by all.

Then have the prayers in that language. But arabic? This is TURKEY!

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

than lets introduce arabic as second language in school

Osmanlija (Ottoman Turkish) will do for it is an amalgam of Turkish + Arabic + Persian. I think it's being already offered as an optional subject in high schools...

 

[TurkeyForever]

you are living in a fantasy world..

you dont use logic you use your grudge towards arabic.. and use it as a shield.. you mock up with the quran the prophet and the religion.. if you would be honest and use intellect or think about it you would not write logic.. because someone who whants to learn islam nad practice islam MUST use arabic.. there is no way..

You know bro...

A few hundred year from now people will read the history books and laugh at us for being so primitive.

The history books will say:
"They listened to it in arabic even though less than 0,5% of the population understood a single word of what was being said."

They will think we were either primitive, crazy or mass hypnotized.

man 172 million musims live in india.. wake up!

Yes I know but often we outsiders get the impression that Pakistan and India don't like eachother. So I never thought India would let this.

If it's true then India isn't that bad at all, actually it's more democratic than the USA or west.

 

[Arefin007]

there is a verse in sorah al maedah which tells us not to violate sheyr-ollah and translating the azan is considered to be a violation so i think thats the reason

 

[TurkeyForever]

Any one here who have read the holy Quran?

I knew a lot of verses that I could quote when young, I could even read it in arabic.

But I didn't understand a SINGLE WORD!

If that isn't brainwashing I'm a duck

Yes many can read the Quran in Turkey, but the real question you should ask is do anyone understand what they read at all?

99,95% doesn't.

Imagine you just learned to read Latin, and you read the bible in Latin, yet you don't understand a single word!

That is the case in Turkey!

And we are being forced to listen to something we don't understand as well.

Then they call me anti-islam, even though I said I want it in turkish!

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I learned english because it's spoken by most people on earth. Why should I learn arabic? They still eat with their hands.

So do the most of the folks from the sub-continent!!! So, what's wrong with that????? Please come up with a better reasoning!!!!

 

[TurkeyForever]

than lets introduce arabic as second language in school

See, this is what I mean.

If you want arabic go to arabia, this is SPARTAAA!