What is Salafism? (the Wahabi myth)

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Man, you are coming across as nothing but a highly insecure bigot.

No more of this.

Its already been pointed out on another thread.

 

[Awesome]

Certainly not my point of view - but if it floats your boat, I'd have no problems with it

Haha it definitely does not float my boat... .

A little non-conformity is good for everyone.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Zy,

I await your rebuttal of other Islamic theories!

I am sure you will prove that they are bogus, which they may well be!

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The thread is "what is salafism", and while questions regarding "implementation" and "is there a successful Salafist state?" are valid ones, I do not see how they can be addressed unless one first answers the question posed by the title of this thread.

I also see no point in bringing up critiques by various authors of Salafism, since all that does is invite someone to post an article critical of the Ismailis for example, and what next, an article from purported ex-Muslims criticizing Islam?

The question is simple enough, and Zyxius has offered his interpretation of what he believes Salafism to represent in post #26. One can either agree with that, and proceed towards other questions, or disagree, and expound upon why, preferably not by digging up sectarian material i.e. stuff dissing one sect or the other.

Now be nice.

 

[Vinod2070]

I see some circular reasoning happening in this thread.

First Salafism is claimed to be a major sect having 100 million Muslims (or even 100s of Millions) thereby trying to claim credibility by sheer numbers and any question is sought to be painted as anti- 100s of millions, when the time comes to prove the numbers, it is claimed that the numbers do not matter!

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

AM

So this thread is just an explanation and thereafter nothing more?

Could you guide us as to how to approach the discussion because if it merely states a point of view and nothing more, then it merely a propagation of thought and no discussion.

I have not understood the rationale of this thread since it is merely putting forth a line of thought.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

AM

So this thread is just an explanation and thereafter nothing more?

Could you guide us as to how to approach the discussion because if it merely states a point of view and nothing more, then it merely a propagation of thought and no discussion.

I have not understood the rationale of this thread since it is merely putting forth a line of thought.

Salim,

My criticism was about being intellectually lazy and just posting a "salafist/Shia/Islam bashing article" and demanding people respond to it.

Discussion or opinion are both fine - but I see no sense in posting "XYZ" bashing articles and demanding they be answered.

If there are Salafist authors who have interpreted their faith differently from what Zyxius has done, I would say bringing that into the discussion is completely appropriate, but I consider articles that speak of the "cult of Salafism" no better than those that speak of the "cult of the Shia" or the "cult of Islam".

Does that make sense?

 

[roadrunner]

Or maybe Stalin and Mao merely lost?

Throughout history, all the bad guys have lost.

Alright, but Stalin didn't lose. Stalin defeated the Germans, and then made the Soviet Union into the world's superpower. It was Gorbochev who lost (the supposed good guy of perestroika).

 

[roadrunner]

Zyxius, I'm curious how you reconcile salafist teaching with the following Hadith

Jarir b. Abdullah reported:
Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: He who introduced some good practice in Islam which was followed after him (by people) he would be assured of reward like one who followed it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And he who introduced some evil practice in Islam which had been followed subsequently (by others), he would be required to bear the burden like that of one who followed this (evil practice) without theirs being diminished in any respect.
Sahih Muslim, Book 034, Number 6466

Also, I'm not sure if it's you that mentioned it. But the Taliban are Deobandi (originated from within India in fact), and the Saudis are Salafists. Right?