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What ethnic group are Afghan Hindus?

Saffronists apporach a topic with their own agenda. since Pashtuns are considered Eastern Iranians. why in the world Hindu nationalists wants to claim Afghans as their kind? if this is their approach, Arabs were also pagans. was Arbi also a Hindu before?
 
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These where backed up by Islamic historians as well. Also two actual Pashtuns have also agreed on this thread.

I know, that's why i said that statement is not clear that Hindu by religion or by origin, even today Persian call people east of Indus as Hindi.
 
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So the two who have already commented have invalid opinion. Stupid submissive Chamar.
Bhangee sher malang is Indian in disguise, i doubt he know much about pashutuns. Pashtuns tribes have complex history, only someone who know real history can tell their origen.
 
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Saffronists apporach a topic with their own agenda. since Pashtuns are considered Eastern Iranians. why in the world Hindu nationalists wants to claim Afghans as their kind? if this is their approach, Arabs were also pagans. was Arbi also a Hindu before?
Stupid Congressi, where am I claiming them? I am only telling these people what history was. There are still Hindu Pashtuns around. Not that minority appeasing Congressi cares.

I know, that's why i said that statement is not clear that Hindu by religion or by origin, even today Persian call people east of Indus as Hindi.
Not trying too be rude but it is pretty clear. What would they be doing east of the Indus? In the nicest way possible I think you are clutching at straws.

Bhangee sher malang is Indian in disguise, i doubt he know much about pashutuns. Pashtuns tribes have complex history, only someone who know real history can tell their origen.
Wheres your proof of that Chamar? And what about the Pakistani Pashtun who earlier in the thread said there are Hindu Pashtuns? Who was also speaking Pashto so he is definitely not Indian. Typical chamar showing his desperation.
 
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Watch this video, first few minutes when Kuljit Singh speaks. He says it should be called Hindabi and not punjabi. Pure punjabi will remain in Pakistan.

He is a Janjua and he was showing his love for Lahnda dialect which was spoken by his parents. You are comparing introduction of loanwords in Punjabi in India with replacement of a language by other language in Pakistan. :eek::eek:

And when people demanded to make Punjabi province on linguistic basis, your govt. told them that Punjabi tu gunwaroon ke zuban hai. It's struggle of Sikhs that Punjabi is somehow survived there.

In India, we aren't so fearful about the impact of regional language. Pakistanis time to time display here how much they fear about promotion of regional languages in Pakistan except Urdu.
 
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Not trying too be rude but it is pretty clear. What would they be doing east of the Indus? In the nicest way possible I think you are clutching at straws.

Told you that Muslim historian you are referring to is Persian and Persian used to refer people east of Indus as Hindus and all religion as well. The European authors screwed up the history of this region. So, I will wait for Pashtun to clarify it with credible source rather than Wikipedia, or believing on Hindus who even tries to prove Mexicans as Hindus.
 
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Tell you that Muslim historian you are referring to is Persian and for Persian used to refer people east of Indus as Hindus and all religion as well. The European authors screwed up the history of this region. So, I will wait for Pashtun to clarify it with credible source rather than Wikipedia, or believing on Hindus who even tries to prove Mexicans as Hindus.
When did I claim Mexicans? That was one guy who was being berated by other Indians. We already have two Pashtuns on here to clarify.
 
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In India, we aren't so fearful about the impact of regional language. Pakistanis time to time display here how much they fear about promotion of regional languages in Pakistan except Urdu.

Yeah - you got courage to recognize Punjabi only when Hindus all of sudden gave up Punjabi, limited it to Sikhs - trimmed Punjab into small province that also without own capital.

You know sh!t about Pakistan.

When did I claim Mexicans? That was one guy who was being berated by other Indians. We already have two Pashtuns on here to clarify.

Search PDF - here is also you are one guy who started this. Which Pashtun have clarified it?
 
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Search PDF - here is also you are one guy who started this. Which Pashtun have clarified it?
Like I said it was one Indian that was saying that, you can't suddenly say that all Indians think like that. The OP of that thread was being berated by other Indians.
 
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aw ji wale tasu am ye sa?

Alaka Pukhtun ror me da.....dhuz, dhuz, dhuz, *fires celebratory bullets*

Are they Pashtuns or other ethnic group?

Well religion doesnt change ethnicity, they are ethnically Pukhtoons but religiously may be Hindus etc, I have personally known Pukhtoon Sikhs, Christians etc as well.....Cheers
 
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Well religion doesnt change ethnicity, they are ethnically Pukhtoons but religiously may be Hindus etc, I have personally known Pukhtoon Sikhs, Christians etc as well.....Cheers

Since when all Afghans became ethnic Puktoons? I also have met Pukhtoon Sikh but never heard about Pukhtoon Hindu
 
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Yeah - you got courage to recognize Punjabi only when Hindus all of sudden gave up Punjabi, limited it to Sikhs - trimmed Punjab into small province that also without own capital.

I know lot many Punjabi Hindus who speak fluent Punjabi. What do you mean by trimmed Punjab. :eek::eek:

Saffronists apporach a topic with their own agenda. since Pashtuns are considered Eastern Iranians. why in the world Hindu nationalists wants to claim Afghans as their kind? if this is their approach, Arabs were also pagans. was Arbi also a Hindu before?

Ancient Gandhara extended into parts of Afghanistan so some people confuse it as entire Afghanistan.
 
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Are you pashtun? You are so ignorant, by speaking pashto one doesn't become pashtun. Even @INDIC bihari can learn and speak pashto, will this make him pashtun?

You can also learn to speak Pashto and I wouldn't call you a Pashtun but Afghan Sikhs are Afghan and ask any of them most of them will tell you they are Pashtun - (not by blood); it's been over a century that they are here and adopted the code of living as like the rest of Pashtuns.

PS: My bad I mixed Sikhs with Hindus.
 
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Submissive Punjabi @shan knows more about Afghanistan then you @Sher Malang :sarcastic:

Yes, you are correct. Punjabis (first Hindus, than Budhists,and then Muslims & Sikhs) are submissive, we learned this trait hard way when we stood alone against Alexander and courageous Hindus were enjoying the show, after that we guided all the invaders who came from the west after crossing the famous Khyber pass towards the interior heartlands, once in our history, we faced an invader (British) coming from east and guided them to the west to fight with Pathans and Afghans. Now we are good at pitting one against the other and try to live peacefully under subjugation.

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Afghanistan's marginalised Hindus | Reza Mohammadi | Comment is free | theguardian.com

Perhaps Radha wasn't the most beautiful girl in Afghanistan. But such were this Hindu girl's looks and kindness that all of Kabul's bachelors fell in love with her. Her fame was such that the people of Kabul composed a famous song for her. The song says: "We have made Lala promise not to cremate Radha". Nearly 80 years later, this song is still sung in Afghanistan. Lala, meaning brother, is the term Afghans use to refer to Hindus. In the song, the people ask Lala not to cremate Radha's beautiful body after her death, as is required by Hindu tradition.



During the reign of King Amanullah Khan (1919-1928) Radha's father, Ranji Das, was finance minister, a role that had long been filled by the Hindus of Afghanistan. But the growth of religious fundamentalism has now pushed the Hindus out of government offices, forcing them into the bazaars. It is now many years since a Hindu held a government post in the country. But they are still running a major part of the Afghan bazaars, and come second in trading medical products.



Overlooking Kabul is a mountain called Asmayi. The name is apparently a Hindu term, deriving from the godess Asha. Today, the mountain has become the largest pilgrimage centre for Hindu worshippers. According to a Hindu tale, an eternal fire burns at the summit of Asmayi, a fire which has refused to die out for 4000 years. There are two other centres of worship in Kabul, the Harshari Natha temple in Kabul's Baghban Kucha, and the Shorbazaar Temple. These are Kabul's oldest temples, where Hindus celebrate divali and naradatar. They are also the meeting places of the Sikh and Hindu religious associations. In addition to these, Kabul today has many other newer and larger temples scattered in different parts of the city.



According to Professor Rajesh Kochhar's book, The Vedic People, Afghanistan is one of the oldest Hindu centres of the world. Kochhar says that a large part of Rigveda was written in Afghanistan, with Helmand and Arghandab being mentioned as sacred rivers in both the Rigveda and Mahabharata. The Surya temple, dedicated to the god of sun, and the Yogi of Panjshir, which represents a worshipper turned into stone, north of Kabul, are both ancient Hindu sites. And yet, if foreigners were to travel to Afghanistan today, they would encounter so few Hindus that they would assume the Hindus are either from elsewhere or recent immigrants. They would encounter a community that is neither playing its part in politics nor getting involved with the rest of the world.



Hindus are clearly among the oldest inhabitants of Afghanistan. They are the native people, whom Islamic fundamentalism has turned into unprotected strangers. Strangers, who this year found themselves forced to argue for days with Muslims in the centre of Kabul in order to be allowed to cremate their dead in line with their tradition. Strangers who never dare to send their children to school for fear of mockery.



In February 2001, during the Taliban's reign, Hindus found themselves forced to wear a distinguishing yellow stripe on their arm. Even though the Taliban have been removed, Abdurrab Rasul Sayyaf, presently an MP in Karzai's administration, has expressed a similar opinion on TV:





The Sikhs and Hindus of Afghanistan are considered part of the dhimmi in line with sharia law. The government has an obligation to protect them but they are required to pay a poll tax. They can hold civilian occupations, such as doctors, but they cannot be in charge of a governmental body or office. Upon meeting a Muslim, a Hindu is required to greet the Muslim first. If a Muslim is standing and there is a chair, the Hindu is not allowed to sit down on the chair.




According to MP Anarkali Honaryar, a representative of Sikhs and Hindus in the Afghan parliament, the majority of the country's 200,000 Sikhs and Hindus are now living abroad, and the number of people leaving Afghanistan for India, Europe and or Pakistan grows by the day.



Friends of Afghanistan's cultural heritage increasingly fear that these ancient inhabitants of the country might one day meet with the same fate of other peoples of Afghanistan, including Jews and Buddhists, and so vanish from the the country altogether.
 
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