What does China think about Kashmir. My POV

[saadee]

@saadee

I will repeat my question

When was the FIRST time you realised that India would NOT hold ANY referendum EVER

Or as they say in USA : What was your FIRST clue ; Genius

In America, people don't bother to deal with dumbasses. I hope my response will satisfy your desperation.

 

[PoKeMon]

I GUESS THE GUY WHO INVENTED THE WORD STUPID MUST BE INSPIRED BY YOU. PURE INDIAN SHOWING HIS stubbornness along with stupidity. The proposal was presented infront of the five nations who had power of veto. If one country disagree with the proposal then there is nothing you can do. Did you get it or you will keep whining like a little girl?

Kid- I asked you to quote an instance when a proposal came and Russia veto in favour of India.

Hard to understand?

 

[arbit]

The only right to decide lies with the Kashmiri people.

Either
1. Let them be. Its their decision or their inability to take a decision by reasons extraneous or otherwise. Why you poke your nose?

OR
2. You want them to be separated from India, means you have vested interest in their decision going one way. Then please be off with the pretence of caring for their right to 'decide'.

and no offence horus ji but something tells me you are going to end up a very bitter and frustrated old man.

 

[saadee]

Kid- I asked you to quote an instance when a proposal came and Russia veto in favour of India.

Hard to understand?

Are you on drugs or something? Hand me the shit you have been smoking lately. Russia is the only country, favored India on Kashmiri Issue. How hard it is for you to understand. Seems like you are on " NOT WANTING TO BELIEVE" mode.

 

[Sine Nomine]

think they already wrote us off back when they supplied nukes

when did they supplied nukes..

 

[AgentOrange]

You know there is a reason why I don't reply to similar threads like those made by Genesis. I'll make this one exception to yours. I ignore replies of the kind because of the absolute lack of understanding in what was stated.

Your single focus of picking up choice words within a post and then going with whatever comes to your mind is self defeating.

The point I was making was on why China is not a willing supporter of any plebiscite calls or UN intervention. Reasons behind it were, doing so opens them up to be then interfered with similar expectations and calls.

Being a member of P5 is secondary vs. the PR crisis of being asked to offer the same in Taiwan, HK, Tibet and SCS conflicts.

This is last I will say about this. Either you understand it or choose to go with inattentiveness

In that case, your conclusions are neither incisive nor groundbreaking. China's "inaction" with regards to Kashmir mirrors China's "inaction" with regards to the Ukraine. Because it's China's official stance not to meddle in sovereignty issues when it comes to other nations, as is stated by China itself time and time again. Maintaining a neutral stance is reflective of China's desire to avoid accusations of hypocrisy etc when China tells other nations to butt out of its own affairs.

Even if China *were* to get more involved in the Kashmir issue, I couldn't envision any kind of PR "nightmare" as severe as what you're implying because for one, the Kashmir issue is important to Indians and Pakistanis only. I doubt India could drum up enough support or exert enough influence to create a "crisis" for China with regards to HK, Taiwan, or any other region because India simply lacks the clout. The US (the only one who could in theory do something of the sort) would strive to appear neutral and/or simply not give a crap about the dispute at all, as is the case presently.

The fact that you ascribe so much undue influence to and place so much emphasis on Indian power and machinations with regards to keeping China out of the Kashmir belies your emotional investment in the issue due to your likely Indian heritage. Furthermore, that you feel the need to repeatedly state your professional pedigree rather than let your knowledge be self-evident, leads me to believe that you are decidedly not a retired US state department official with 50 years experience or whatever the hell you're claiming.

In the future, when pretending to be an important anonymous internet official, try adding "Doctor", "President", and "Lord Commander" in front of your username. Like "Dr. President Lord Commander of the US State dept, retired". It will lend gravity and credence to your posts and may fool more people...like Superboy.

 

[Sine Nomine]

PRC only is not paying attention to this issue because they also hold a lot of Territory of J&K if JK is fully integrated into India or Pakistan china would have to gave this land in that way neither they support Pakistan nor India.

 

[PoKeMon]

Are you on drugs or something? Hand me the shit you have been smoking lately. Russia is the only country, favored India on Kashmiri Issue. How hard it is for you to understand. Seems like you are on " NOT WANTING TO BELIEVE" mode.

Kid either quote any instance when Russia veto in favour of us or STFU.
Or
Quote any instance when your supporter have bring any resolution in support of you in Kashmir Issue.

Dont embarrass your nation, education and your lovely parents.

 

[saadee]

Kid either quote any instance when Russia veto in favour of us or STFU.
Or
Quote any instance when your supporter have bring any resolution in support of you in Kashmir Issue.

Dont embarrass your nation, education and your lovely parents.

Listen you piece of shit! When you don't have anything to prove then go in the corner and F yourself fudge packer. Embarrass my parent? I suggest you not to pull me out of my comfort zone. You are atypical Indian who lives in denial. Proving my point to a hershey highway like you is same as blowing the beagle in front of the cow.

Kid either quote any instance when Russia veto in favour of us or STFU.
Or
Quote any instance when your supporter have bring any resolution in support of you in Kashmir Issue.

Dont embarrass your nation, education and your lovely parents.

Quote any instance? Are you blind or something? Nawaz shareef brought this issue in the recent SAARC meeting. Is it enough? I bet you on one thing that you will deny it too. Go ahead show me your true Indianness. The whole world knows that Russia was the biggest hurdle in resolving the Kashmiri issue


Here is a suggestion for you. Refrain yourself from making personal attacks or else you will see some reaction you may not like. Keep the conversation clean.

Listen you piece of shit! When you don't have anything to prove then go in the corner and F yourself fudge packer. Embarrass my parent? I suggest you not to pull me out of my comfort zone. You are atypical Indian who lives in denial. Proving my point to a hershey highway like you is same as blowing the beagle in front of the cow.


Quote any instance? Are you blind or something? Nawaz shareef brought this issue in the recent SAARC meeting. Is it enough? I bet you on one thing that you will deny it too. Go ahead show me your true Indianness. The whole world knows that Russia was the biggest hurdle in resolving the Kashmiri issue


Here is a suggestion for you. Refrain yourself from making personal attacks or else you will see some reaction you may not like. Keep the conversation.

UNITED NATIONS: At 10 minutes to 6 yesterday afternoon (10 minutes to 3am, Karachi time), the Soviet Union cast its veto in the United Nations Security Council and thus sealed for ever hopes of a peaceful solution of the Kashmir dispute under UN auspices.
The long, determined hand of Russia’s tall balding Platon Morozov went up against the Irish resolution, and dented the long, ceaseless struggle of Kashmir for its liberation.
India’s Menon used every trick in his bag, from mere stalling to open blackmail, as on the MIG issue, to shut out the Kashmir debate or, failing that, to let it fizzle out without the tabling of any resolution.

 

[saadee]

Kid either quote any instance when Russia veto in favour of us or STFU.
Or
Quote any instance when your supporter have bring any resolution in support of you in Kashmir Issue.

Dont embarrass your nation, education and your lovely parents.

Shoulder to shoulder at the United Nations
September 26, 2014 Ajay Kamalakaran
India and Russia have repeatedly backed each other’s positions and cooperated at the UN, since the intergovernmental organisation was established in 1945.



Several heads of state are converging in New York City for the 69th session of the United Nations General Assembly. While Narendra Modi will be addressing the session, Vladimir Putin has decided to give it a pass this year. It’s a well-known fact that members of the Russian and Indian permanent missions to the UN enjoy warm relations, largely reflecting the diplomatic ties between the two countries. Russia has clearly and consistently maintained that India deserves to be a permanent and veto-wielding member of the United Nations Security Council.
It’s at the United Nations that the friendship between the countries has been repeatedly put to test, with positive outcomes. In March of this year, when Ukraine proposed a resolution terming Crimea’s reintegration with Russia as illegal, resisting pressure from the U.S. and European Union. This abstinence was the latest in a series of measures at the UN where the two countries kept each other’s interests in mind.

It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.

Kid either quote any instance when Russia veto in favour of us or STFU.
Or]
Happy now

 

[PoKeMon]

Shoulder to shoulder at the United Nations
September 26, 2014 Ajay Kamalakaran
India and Russia have repeatedly backed each other’s positions and cooperated at the UN, since the intergovernmental organisation was established in 1945.



Several heads of state are converging in New York City for the 69th session of the United Nations General Assembly. While Narendra Modi will be addressing the session, Vladimir Putin has decided to give it a pass this year. It’s a well-known fact that members of the Russian and Indian permanent missions to the UN enjoy warm relations, largely reflecting the diplomatic ties between the two countries. Russia has clearly and consistently maintained that India deserves to be a permanent and veto-wielding member of the United Nations Security Council.
It’s at the United Nations that the friendship between the countries has been repeatedly put to test, with positive outcomes. In March of this year, when Ukraine proposed a resolution terming Crimea’s reintegration with Russia as illegal, resisting pressure from the U.S. and European Union. This abstinence was the latest in a series of measures at the UN where the two countries kept each other’s interests in mind.

It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.

So where it has written that Russia has veto anything in support of India?

More importantly, you have to come up with instance where your so called supporter like US, UK, France and China have bring some resolution in favour of you and Russia blocked that with a veto.

Bro, no one have really supported you but have done only lip service.

 

[saadee]

Here is the list of the permanent member of U.N security council

1. United States
2. United Kingdom
3. France
4. Soviet Union (now Russia)
5. Republic of China (now the People's Republic of China)

So where it has written that Russia has veto anything in support of India?

More importantly, you have to come up with instance where your so called supporter like US, UK, France and China have bring some resolution in favour of you and Russia blocked that with a veto.

Bro, no one have really supported you but have done only lip service.

My goodness man! Nobody in this world can convince you guys. You asked for the prove and I gave you a legit prove. There is no way, anyone in this world can convince you guys.

 

[PoKeMon]

My goodness man! Nobody in this world can convince you guys. You asked for the prove and I gave you a legit prove. There is no way, anyone in this world can convince you guys.

Yes you have given a "proof" how Russia have used "veto" in support of India and against pakistan.

You are really funny.

 

[saadee]

So where it has written that Russia has veto anything in support of India?

More importantly, you have to come up with instance where your so called supporter like US, UK, France and China have bring some resolution in favour of you and Russia blocked that with a veto.

Bro, no one have really supported you but have done only lip service.

Can you read it???????

It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.
It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.
It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.
It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.
It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.
It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.
It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.

Yes you have given a "proof" how Russia have used "veto" in support of India and against pakistan.

You are really funny.

Oh GOD! Seriously, Are you drunk man? I said Russia was the biggest hurdle in resolving the Kashmiri issue. I said it twenty thousand times and you still have no clue.

 

[PoKeMon]

Can you read it???????

It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.
It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.
It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.
It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.
It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.
It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.
It is a well-known fact that the Soviet Union backed India on the Kashmir issue.


Oh GOD! Seriously, Are you drunk man? I said Russia was the biggest hurdle in resolving the Kashmiri issue. I said it twenty thousand times and you still have no clue.

But you say all others support you, so how did Russia stops all other to deliver for you?

And what all others who supports you did for you?

Did US/UK/China bring any resolution in support of you? ---- NO

Did they help you directly in any war? -----NO

Did Russia have to stop any resolution? --- NO, because it never came.



Kids are hillarious these days.