What do Indians celebrate on 15th August?

[Cobra Arbok]

Jinnah wanted to control Hyderabad and Assam ??? Who are you ?? Are You drunk ??

India is bigger and better and strategic and super power and worlds richest country ===> not interested in your third class rant over and over again. Go play outside with kids of your age.

Jinnah did want Hyderabad. Hyderabad had actually acceded to Pakistan. Sardar Patel had actually offered to exchange Kashmir for Hyderabad, but Jinnah refused, believing he will get both. Unfortunately, he got none. Asam was also muslim majority at that time, so he wanted Assam to be part of BD. Some Bd posters are still salty about that. Same with Tripura.

Whats wrong with saying India is bigger and controls more strategic land than Pakistan? That is a fact anyone who can read a map can see. I simply responded to the thread by saying India can celebrate it is bigger and has more strategic land and is more developed.

These reports are mostly based on Urban population and your country has a way higher rural population. So keep celebrating these reports and maybe hungry people in India will eat them and fill their stomach. I end it here Troll.

You do realize rural development is a major part of those reports? I know it hurts India is more developed than you.

 

[Jugger]

We celebrate August 15 cause we are still united and going strong after so many years from independence. Actually we only got more after independence.

Guess Pakistan cannot celebrate like we do.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Which strategic territory do you control, you are surrounded by China, Pakistan and now a slowly turning hostile Nepal and in near future Bangladesh as well. Then you have China buying all the ports surrounding your coast line. So which strategy are you talking about cause that looks like a boxed nation to me.

Lakshadweep gives us control over the Arabian Sea and the AaN allows us to control the strait of Malaca one of the most strategic waterways in the world, meaning we can literally blockade China in case of All out war(which is unlikely) Nepal is not turning hostile, they recently made a deal with us for a rail connection, and we are still their biggest trading partner. We also border ASEAN, one of the largest and most important markets in the world. Sri Lanka refused to allow Chines ships to stop in its waters, and we now control an airport there. We still have our helicopters in the Maldives, and they have allowed us to patrol their exclusive economic zone. And we control Siachen, which means we overlook all Paksitani and Chinese positions.

So, to answer the OP. a lot to celebrate

 

[Novice09]

We are celebrating the constantly strengthening democracy... without any army rule... the 5th largest economy of world...

We are also working on poverty elevation and social security of those who were left out...
Get ready for something big for healthcare system for our brothers who need that...


While Pakistanis are currently TALKING about NAYA PAKISTAN... We are BUILDING NAYA HINDUSTAN...

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY...

 

[Cobra Arbok]

We are celebrating the constantly strengthening democracy... without any army rule... the 5th largest economy of world...

We are also working on poverty elevation and social security of those who were left out...

Not to mention we are the 6th largest economy and the 4th most powerful military, and we have uplifted more people out of poverty than any country except China.

So much to celebrate

 

[Peshwa]

As far as your Islands are concerned China is planning for them and that's where Hambantota port of Srilanka comes in. Secondly your own soldiers are sick of Siachen as more die of cold than in fighting.

That doesn’t make these territories not strategic.
In truth, the fact that China needs to counter this with Hambantota itself is evidence of the strategic value of A&N.

And if Pakistan doesn’t feel siachen is strategic, maybe your military planners and country should give up their claims on the same and let us control the glacier.
Why don’t they do that?

 

[Cobra Arbok]

That doesn’t make these territories not strategic.
In truth, the fact that China needs to counter this with Hambantota itself is evidence of the strategic value of A&N.

And if Pakistan doesn’t feel siachen is strategic, maybe you’re military planners and country should give up their claims on the same and let us control the glacier.
Why don’t they do that?

Plus the Lankans have refused to allow Chinese Navy ships at that port. Looks like they learnt their lesson about debt-trap diplomacy after losing their port to China.

 

[Peshwa]

Lol yeah yeah that’s why your leadership have wet dreams of reuniting first go and speak to them and then come back rather than vomiting all over this thread

We obviously wouldn’t mind having the Pakistani land added to our current boundaries, didn’t say we want the people, it’s culture or it’s theocracy, which actually is what make up the modern political entity of Pakistan. Definitely celebrating not being called a Pakistani or “****”...that’s for sure! Lol

Don’t think I need to speak to our leadership for that...

Plus the Lankans have refused to allow Chinese Navy ships at that port. Looks like they learnt their lesson about debt-trap diplomacy after losing their port to China.

More than anything, the Lankans know that they can’t face India’s wrath, especially when India sits just across the strait and an unreliable China who will drop them like a hot potato for their own interests, left to the mercy of India.

Rajapaksa wanted to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds, doesn’t work like that. I think SL understands that now under their leadership. Unfortunately, the debt chickens have come home to roost. So they have to pay their pound of flesh to the Chinese. So be it.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

We obviously wouldn’t mind having the Pakistani land added to our current boundaries, didn’t say we want the people, it’s culture or it’s theocracy, which actually is what make up the modern political entity of Pakistan. Definitely celebrating not being called a Pakistani or “****”...that’s for sure! Lol

Don’t think I need to speak to our leadership for that...



More than anything, the Lankans know that they can’t face India’s wrath, especially when India sits just across the strait and an unreliable China who will drop them like a hot potato for their own interests, left to the mercy of India.

Rajapaksa wanted to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds, doesn’t work like that. I think SL understands that now under their leadership. Unfortunately, the debt chickens have come home to roost. So they have to pay their pound of flesh to the Chinese. So be it.

Nepal is coming to a similar understanding, which is why they signed agreements about border security and rail connectivity.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Dil ki Tasali k liye, ye khayal b theek hai Ghalib.

That's how poor hindus soothe their soul in the face of the fact that the remains of their ancient homeland was divided into three by Muslims, after Muslims enguled a huge portion of ancient indic civilization and ruled the rest of it for centuries.

Quaid-e-Azam wanted Hyderabad and UP-Muslim majority parts in Pakistan?! Have you looked at the map? I would have been utterly impossible geographically. No country is like this---in "pieces" of geography scattered across the enemy landscape.

Pakistan was always going to be North-Western Muslim-majority regions of subcontinent. The disagreements was on minor details in Punjab and Bengal. Lahore, for example, was non-Muslim majority and held the cultural power of Punjab. It was given to Pakistan. To compensate for that, some thin Muslim majority districts of Indian Punjab were kept on Indian side...Simple.

Your myths won't change facts on the ground. Muslims gained the most out of partition while hindus lost massive chunk of their cultural heritage and physical geographic lands.

Yes, Jinnah couldn't save the entire Muslim population of the British India!!! But, he could save two thirds!!! When most of the Muslim leaders lost 100%, it's monumental....

 

[AUz]

You didn't divide India into three, the British did. And if you are satisfied with partition, you would not be trying to regain the parts of Kashmir you lost.

So British divided india against the wishes of Indians?

Your coping mechanism is amazing. The truth is, Muslims forced the British to divide indian mainland among hindus and Muslims. Muslim League worked hard, fought, and even used violence whenever necessary to make it clear to Hindus and British elites than india can not remain "united"....

Even your own historians have admitted to it. india is divided today primarily because of Muslims and their struggle to divide it. There is no two way about it. No matter how hard you try

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

You might have case if they lost something. They did not lose anything. It was not like before the British came they ruled over all of South Asia. Indeed 1947 was blessing for them. Before the British came what did they have? Had British not come there would have been at least 8 countries ruling the geography that became Indian Republic. Instead the British came. United all that geography. Integrated it with rail, administrative machine, military, law and then even built a shiny new capital "New Delhi" with all the fancy buildings for what would become President Office, Indian Parliament, PM office, differant government offices housing the ministeries.

Then all ths was handed to Nehru in 1947. That is something to celebrate about. Don't you think?

Isn't your comment bordering on insults toward the Indian folks??? Aren't you implying that they're not capable of building an empire even when gifted on a golden platter???

 

[Zarvan]

Can any one explain to me what do Indians celebrate on 15th Aug every year??

On 15th Aug 1947 British India was divided in to India and Pakistan ( East and West). So Muslim minority of the country got independent from Hindus who were in majority not only in political circles but also in all walks of life, especially trade & commerce and education.

"The population of undivided India in 1947 was approx 390 million. After partition, there were 330 million people in India, 30 million in West Pakistan, and 30 million people in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh)."


Indian National congress and Hindu leaders tried hard to prevent partition and keep the country united however Britishers ended up giving up on Jinnah's principle stand of two nation theory. Britishers were going through a massive economical problems post world war II and wanted to leave the sub continent any ways.


So what is it that India celebrates?? They lost 40 % of area to a relative minority Muslims. They should actually mourn. Is there something I am missing, please enlighten me.

Indians were being ruled for 1000 years. First it was Muslims than it was British so they have bigger reason for celeberations

 

[Indus Pakistan]

But dont you think at the same time they lost the opportunity to rule Muslims

No. Opportunity is if you get a chance or circumstances that might enable you to do something. The right to give that opportunity was in the hands of British who had built the colony [ii] the Muslims of the majority provinces. These two elements did not give that right and rest is history. I mean I could say the other way around. We should have ruled the Hindus but I don't think they would have given us that opportunity? Or do you think they would.

Something else. Today wee have what 4 million is it, Muslims of Kashmir Valley who were known as being quite pliable yet we have nearly half a million Indian garrison trying to keep them in check. Assuming if we had given the hindus the 'opportunity' to ruke Punjab, Khyber Pakhtunkwa, Sindh, Balochistan how many troops would be required to placate 200 million people? If we followed the Kashmir formula it would be over 10 million soldiers and you know many parts of these Muslim majority provinces have a procilivity for warfare.

Meaning Hindu rule was not going to last over the region that became Pakistan. And there never was 2NT. It was just a ploy to undo the artificial structure the English had built up called the Raj. Bangla broke off and today we have three countries. And why is Nepal separated from India as both are Hindu countries. Bangladesh and Nepal's existence demolishes the 2NT.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

We have more MUSLIMS than Pakistan

Means nothing.