What do Indians celebrate on 15th August?

[AUz]

You could make the same argument for Pakistan. Jinnah was very upset when Mountbatten showed the final boundaries and called it "a moth eaten Pakistan" Jinnah actually had wanted Hyderabad, Junagadh, the entirety of Kashmir, Jammu, and Ladakh, the entirety of Assam and Tripura, as well as Muslim-majority districts in UP and Bihar. Obviously, he got none of that, and only a small part of Kashmir.
Also, I am pretty sure Muslims made up approximately 40 percent of undivided India, so it is only fair they got 40 percent of the landmass. Everyone had to give up something, its called compromise.

At the end of the day, our country is far bigger than yours and has more fertile land plus control of the Indus and her tributaries, as well as a border with ASEAN. Control of Lakshadweep and AaN Islands also allow us to control the Arabian Sea and the Straits of Malaca, two of the most strategic waterways in the world. So all in all, we got a pretty good deal/

Dil ki Tasali k liye, ye khayal b theek hai Ghalib.

That's how poor hindus soothe their soul in the face of the fact that the remains of their ancient homeland was divided into three by Muslims, after Muslims enguled a huge portion of ancient indic civilization and ruled the rest of it for centuries.

Quaid-e-Azam wanted Hyderabad and UP-Muslim majority parts in Pakistan?! Have you looked at the map? I would have been utterly impossible geographically. No country is like this---in "pieces" of geography scattered across the enemy landscape.

Pakistan was always going to be North-Western Muslim-majority regions of subcontinent. The disagreements was on minor details in Punjab and Bengal. Lahore, for example, was non-Muslim majority and held the cultural power of Punjab. It was given to Pakistan. To compensate for that, some thin Muslim majority districts of Indian Punjab were kept on Indian side...Simple.

Your myths won't change facts on the ground. Muslims gained the most out of partition while hindus lost massive chunk of their cultural heritage and physical geographic lands.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Now you have made your point which I personally think is illogical and has several mistakes, UP and Bihar was never part of original Pakistan , go and read Pakistan resolution passed in 1940 at Minto Park Lahore, which would later serve as the basis of Pakistan. With such shallow knowledge of facts , you complain that I dont listen to you or give importance to your arguments. You further go on to say our country is bigger and has borders with ASEAN ( which your leadership by some divine power knew in 1947 that it would be become so important in future ) all that bragging is unnecessary.


Now dont spoil this thread with your trolls please. I ll leave it for other members to see your point.


I would request the mods to block you as you keep posting shitty logic's and derail the thread. Now STFU.

It does not matter that UP and Bihar were not part of the originaly Paksitan, neither was Bangladesh. Maybe Hindus would have liked to control the entire subcontinent just like Jinnah wanted to control Hyderabad, Junagadh, the entirety of JaK, Assam, and several others. Not to mention, he was opposed to the partition of Punjab and Bengal, the entirety of which was supposed to go to Paksitan. So it looks like both sides lost something. Doesn't change the fact that India today is bigger and controls strategic territory.

Dil ki Tasali k liye, ye khayal b theek hai Ghalib.

That's how poor hindus soothe their soul in the face of the fact that the remains of their ancient homeland was divided into three by Muslims, after Muslims enguled a huge portion of ancient indic civilization and ruled the rest of it for centuries.

Quaid-e-Azam wanted Hyderabad and UP-Muslim majority parts in Pakistan?! Have you looked at the map? I would have been utterly impossible geographically. No country is like this---in "pieces" of geography scattered across the enemy landscape.

Pakistan was always going to be North-Western Muslim-majority regions of subcontinent. The disagreements was on minor details in Punjab and Bengal. Lahore, for example, was non-Muslim majority and held the cultural power of Punjab. It was given to Pakistan. To compensate for that, some thin Muslim majority districts of Indian Punjab were kept on Indian side...Simple.

Your myths won't change facts on the ground. Muslims gained the most out of partition while hindus lost massive chunk of their cultural heritage and physical geographic lands.

You didn't divide India into three, the British did. And if you are satisfied with partition, you would not be trying to regain the parts of Kashmir you lost.

Yet 300 Million people in your country are malnourished and have no toilet facilities the most basic of things. Half of your population is deprived of basic health facilities and yeah you got a better deal what did you do with it.

Yes, I am pretty sure Pakistan is Scandenevia. According to the UN, we are far more developed than you
http://www.hdr.undp.org/en/composite/HDI

 

[Chakar The Great]

It does not matter that UP and Bihar were not part of the originaly Paksitan, neither was Bangladesh. Maybe Hindus would have liked to control the entire subcontinent just like Jinnah wanted to control Hyderabad, Junagadh, the entirety of JaK, Assam, and several others. Not to mention, he was opposed to the partition of Punjab and Bengal, the entirety of which was supposed to go to Paksitan. So it looks like both sides lost something. Doesn't change the fact that India today is bigger and controls strategic territory.


You didn't divide India into three, the British did. And if you are satisfied with partition, you would not be trying to regain the parts of Kashmir you lost.

Jinnah wanted to control Hyderabad and Assam ??? Who are you ?? Are You drunk ??

India is bigger and better and strategic and super power and worlds richest country ===> not interested in your third class rant over and over again. Go play outside with kids of your age.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I know where you are coming from , that does make sense. But that was end of British Raj any way. I mean Hindus would have ideally wanted one country, ruled by them. They failed in what they wanted, they got the worse possible deal out of partition.

You might have case if they lost something. They did not lose anything. It was not like before the British came they ruled over all of South Asia. Indeed 1947 was blessing for them. Before the British came what did they have? Had British not come there would have been at least 8 countries ruling the geography that became Indian Republic. Instead the British came. United all that geography. Integrated it with rail, administrative machine, military, law and then even built a shiny new capital "New Delhi" with all the fancy buildings for what would become President Office, Indian Parliament, PM office, differant government offices housing the ministeries.

Then all ths was handed to Nehru in 1947. That is something to celebrate about. Don't you think?

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Dil ki Tasali k liye, ye khayal b theek hai Ghalib.

That's how poor hindus soothe their soul in the face of the fact that the remains of their ancient homeland was divided into three by Muslims, after Muslims enguled a huge portion of ancient indic civilization and ruled the rest of it for centuries.

Quaid-e-Azam wanted Hyderabad and UP-Muslim majority parts in Pakistan?! Have you looked at the map? I would have been utterly impossible geographically. No country is like this---in "pieces" of geography scattered across the enemy landscape.

Pakistan was always going to be North-Western Muslim-majority regions of subcontinent. The disagreements was on minor details in Punjab and Bengal. Lahore, for example, was non-Muslim majority and held the cultural power of Punjab. It was given to Pakistan. To compensate for that, some thin Muslim majority districts of Indian Punjab were kept on Indian side...Simple.

Your myths won't change facts on the ground. Muslims gained the most out of partition while hindus lost massive chunk of their cultural heritage and physical geographic lands.

Lahore was Muslim majority, but Hindus controlled all the wealth. Muslims were not even allowed to drink from the same taps as Hindus in Lahore, even though Muslims were majority.

 

[Peshwa]

So what is it that India celebrates?? .

We celebrate not becoming a Pakistan.

That’s quite obvious.

 

[FalconStar]

It does not matter that UP and Bihar were not part of the originaly Paksitan, neither was Bangladesh. Maybe Hindus would have liked to control the entire subcontinent just like Jinnah wanted to control Hyderabad, Junagadh, the entirety of JaK, Assam, and several others. Not to mention, he was opposed to the partition of Punjab and Bengal, the entirety of which was supposed to go to Paksitan. So it looks like both sides lost something. Doesn't change the fact that India today is bigger and controls strategic territory.


You didn't divide India into three, the British did. And if you are satisfied with partition, you would not be trying to regain the parts of Kashmir you lost.

Which strategic territory do you control, you are surrounded by China, Pakistan and now a slowly turning hostile Nepal and in near future Bangladesh as well. Then you have China buying all the ports surrounding your coast line. So which strategy are you talking about cause that looks like a boxed nation to me.

 

[Peshwa]

You might have case if they lost something. They did not lose anything. It was not like before the British came they ruled over all of South Asia. Indeed 1947 was blessing for them. Before the British came what did they have? Had British not come there would have been at least 8 countries ruling the geography that became Indian Republic. Instead the British came. United all that geography. Integrated it with rail, administrative machine, military, law and then even built a shiny new capital "New Delhi" with all the fancy buildings for what would become President Office, Indian Parliament, PM office, differant government offices housing the ministeries.

Then all ths was handed to Nehru in 1947. That is something to celebrate about. Don't you think?

Couldn’t have said it better!

Which strategic territory do you control, you are surrounded by China, Pakistan and now a slowly turning hostile Nepal and in near future Bangladesh as well. Then you have China buying all the ports surrounding your coast line. So which strategy are you talking about cause that looks like a boxed nation to me.

Andaman and Nicobar
Siachen

 

[FalconStar]

Yes, I am pretty sure Pakistan is Scandenevia. According to the UN, we are far more developed than you

I never claimed that, you're the one making big claims but one thing I'm damn sure about is we are much much better than you in human development not ideal and not even very good but better than you.

 

[Chakar The Great]

You might have case if they lost something. They did not lose anything. It was not like before the British came they ruled over all of South Asia. Indeed 1947 was blessing for them. Before the British came what did they have? Had British not come there would have been at least 8 countries ruling the geography that became Indian Republic. Instead the British came. United all that geography. Integrated it with rail, administrative machine, military, law and then even built a shiny new capital "New Delhi" with all the fancy buildings for what would become President Office, Indian Parliament, PM office, differant government offices housing the ministeries.

Then all ths was handed to Nehru in 1947. That is something to celebrate about. Don't you think?

Thats one way of looking at things. But dont you think at the same time they lost the opportunity to rule Muslims ? Even at the time Hindu leaders ( along with Muslim religious parties) were against the partition. The struggle for free India from Britishers started before two nation theory surfaced. As you said Britishers did alot of work especially interms of setting up government machinery and railways , but they were tired after the second world war they wanted to leave India .People often forget that they didnt leave India because the masses wanted it, it was more so because they were exhausted especially interms of resources.

 

[FalconStar]

Andaman and Nicobar
Siachen

As far as your Islands are concerned China is planning for them and that's where Hambantota port of Srilanka comes in. Secondly your own soldiers are sick of Siachen as more die of cold than in fighting.

 

[Novice09]

Happy independence day... to all...

 

[Dark-Destroyer]

We celebrate not becoming a Pakistan.

That’s quite obvious.

Lol yeah yeah that’s why your leadership have wet dreams of reuniting first go and speak to them and then come back rather than vomiting all over this thread

 

[FalconStar]

http://www.hdr.undp.org/en/composite/HDI

These reports are mostly based on Urban population and your country has a way higher rural population. So keep celebrating these reports and maybe hungry people in India will eat them and fill their stomach. I end it here Troll.

 

[Novice09]

Thats one way of looking at things. But dont you think at the same time they lost the opportunity to rule Muslims ? Even at the time Hindu leaders ( along with Muslim religious parties) were against the partition. The struggle for free India from Britishers started before two nation theory surfaced. As you said Britishers did alot of work especially interms of setting up government machinery and railways , but they were tired after the second world war they wanted to leave India .People often forget that they didnt leave India because the masses wanted it, it was more so because they were exhausted especially interms of resources.

We have more MUSLIMS than Pakistan... and every person have equal rights... and Muslim population growth rate is highest in India...

Hope you are taking care of Ahmedis... On minorities in Pakistan, the less we talk...

Happy Independence Day...