What did the pythagoras mean by ' Everything is made from numbers ?'

[Verve]

Stop explaining islamic stuff.

A lot of scidntists researching in sound claim it too, those are not Muslims.

Tesla, the most gifted scientist of last two centuries, wasn't a Muslim either.

 

[El Sidd]

A lot of scidntists researching in sound claim it too, those are not Muslims.

Tesla, the most gifted scientist of last two centuries, wasn't a Muslim either.

They be reading stuff you knows

 

[Verve]

They be reading stuff you knows

lol ... Yeah, maybe.

It's a conspiracy.

It is amazing though what sound can do ...

Right frequency out of a small suitcase size machine can cause an earthquake.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Important to note that mathematics does not always pertain to reality, a basic example would be a quadratic equation where you can get both a negative and positive answer, if we are using such a equation to determine time or length obviously the neg cannot be accurate or take the the example of 1+2+3 to infinity, the answer can be summed upto -1/12, in reality this cannot be true.Kudos Wisher

U should look into Banach-Tarski paradox...just as mind blowing as that infinity sum resulting in -1/12.

 

[fallstuff]

Hi,
I'm unable to understand this point . I'm thinking over it and couldn't get the answer.
Pythagoras was a philosopher who believed in worshiping the numbers . He conceptualised the numbers in different forms .

He said that all things are made from numbers . All things are numbers . In short he believed that being and existence is based on numbers .
How so ?

@HannibalBarca @El Sidd @Joe Shearer @Kaptaan @django

We can use math to prove the following theory !

He is saying the world is made from numbers.

Since

number = digit

Therefore its a digital world.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

The first "man" is a vague concept.

If god created numbers then either all of it is divine or non of it is divine. There cannot be special numbers associated with god specially when the god is beyond such concepts

The concept maybe vague to you, not to us. You are free to draw your ancestry to the chimps.

God created evil as well, does it mean , god forbid, he is evil as well? Ofcourse god is beyond such concepts but for us, the creations, we have to have some reference to him, in our prayers and supplications to him.

 

[Imran Khan]

he was nice but so many myths on his name

 

[Godman]

The concept maybe vague to you, not to us. You are free to draw your ancestry to the chimps.

Who draws their ancestry to chimps? Chimps are a separate evolutionary branch, humans never came from chimps. Its stupid idea by people from haven't learnt evolution.
The basics of evolution must be taught around grades 9-11. Stupid ideas of Humans evolving from Monkeys/chimps are humiliatingly prevalent.
And evolution is certainly not part of the divinity of numbers

God created evil as well, does it mean , god forbid, he is evil as well? Ofcourse god is beyond such concepts but for us, the creations, we have to have some reference to him, in our prayers and supplications to him.

And what makes putting numbers better than just praying? It is an meaningless occult practice and my guess is such things mostly come from pre-islamic religions. Numbers play a major role in Egyption and Hindu mythology and there are concepts like auspicious numbers.

There is nothing wrong with it but the fact is numbers are just numbers. They are not specially divine or anything and this is specially strong in Abrahamic religions

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Everything around us can be explained in Mathematical rules.

What I meant by "reality" is the one that is separate from our consciousness. Our consciousness conceives that reality via senses and logic, which serve as a filter between the reality and us. What you conceive is not the reality itself, just like what is in the mirror is not really you, especially when that mirror is not flat.

Unfortunately this is one of the main points as to why we may all be living in a matrix.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Who draws their ancestry to chimps? Chimps are a separate evolutionary branch, humans never came from chimps. Its stupid idea by people from haven't learnt evolution.
The basics of evolution must be taught around grades 9-11. Stupid ideas of Humans evolving from Monkeys/chimps are humiliatingly prevalent.
And evolution is certainly not part of the divinity of numbers

So enlighten us as to how humans "evolved" from chimps as per science by Darwin theory.

And what makes putting numbers better than just praying? It is an meaningless occult practice and my guess is such things mostly come from pre-islamic religions. Numbers play a major role in Egyption and Hindu mythology and there are concepts like auspicious numbers.

There is nothing wrong with it but the fact is numbers are just numbers. They are not specially divine or anything and this is specially strong in Abrahamic religions

How can you pray to god without a reference to him? I am not in a position to confirm or deny the Islamic numerical system of Abjad, as I haven't come across any decree for or against it. but I do know that it is very much ingrained in our society without objections to it, and that includes clergy.

 

[Godman]

So enlighten us as to how humans "evolved" from chimps as per science by Darwin theory.

Humans didn't evolve from chimps, Only shared a common ancestor. Through generations members of species collect different traits resulting in divergent evolution. A simpler example is the Galápagos finches.
Through generations this process continues with the Pan Genus(Which the chimps belong to) and the Homo Genus (Which Humans belong to) evolving differently.
You didn't come from your cousin just because you share a ancestor.

I have discussed it with a few christians , a Catholic priests and a christian pastors and there is a consensus on genesis being a allegory than an actual event. A "person" called Adam certainly did not exist as "Adam and Eve" represent mankind than being actual individuals. I was directed to some old statements by ancient scholars but I was bored to do much theological research. All the people and things in the story are representations in a story with a deeper meaning.
If taken literally the creation story contradicts with both actual history and the character representing god in the creation story is very different from the all powerful god.

I know similar views exist with Islamic scholars but never got to discuss with anyone

How can you pray to god without a reference to him? I am not in a position to confirm or deny the Islamic numerical system of Abjad, as I haven't come across any decree for or against it. but I do know that it is very much ingrained in our society without objections to it, and that includes clergy.

I am not against it just showing that its meaningless. Even modern day christians follow pagan practices like christmas. Is it evil? nope. But is it meaningful? nope

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Humans didn't evolve from chimps, Only shared a common ancestor. Through generations members of species collect different traits resulting in divergent evolution. A simpler example is the Galápagos finches.
Through generations this process continues with the Pan Genus(Which the chimps belong to) and the Homo Genus (Which Humans belong to) evolving differently.
You didn't come from your cousin just because you share a ancestor.

I have discussed it with a few christians , a Catholic priests and a christian pastors and there is a consensus on genesis being a allegory than an actual event. A "person" called Adam certainly did not exist as "Adam and Eve" represent mankind than being actual individuals. I was directed to some old statements by ancient scholars but I was bored to do much theological research. All the people and things in the story are representations in a story with a deeper meaning.
If taken literally the creation story contradicts with both actual history and the character representing god in the creation story is very different from the all powerful god.

I know similar views exist with Islamic scholars but never got to discuss with anyone

So this is a hoax?

Sharing same common ancestor?? A monkey? What non sense! If reference to monkey is bit degrading, then I suppose that daddy tadpole who came crawling out of the pond millions of years ago would be the original ancestor!?


You lot need to make your mind up. My cousin, my family, my relative, infact you and I, belong to same specie, a sentient being called human, your analogy doesn't hold.


If a presit is telling you that he doenst believe in Adam and Eve and that concept of "original sin" is nothing in christinaity, then I would say you, he needs to get his head checked.

Anyway, I am not here to represent other Abrahamic religions, they can defend themselves. Islam is very clear without any ambiguity about the creation of Adam as the first human. Every single Islamic scholar worth it salt, will draw a thick red line when it comes to Human creation. There are some who agree with evolution of other species, but even those reject Human evolution. Because if you believe in Human evolution, you have to reject the Quran , which clearly mention how Adam was created up in heaven and how his soul was breathed into him, and most importantly, the point which I like to emphasis, as default, the exsistence of Satan have be rejected as well as the creations of Adam was the event which caused Satan to become the enemy of mankind. This so called theory of evolution is nothing but a Satanist agenda to not only degrade humanity but also reject the existence of Satan.

 

[Godman]

So this is a hoax?

Sharing same common ancestor?? A monkey? What non sense! If reference to monkey is bit degrading, then I suppose that daddy tadpole who came crawling out of the pond millions of years ago would be the original ancestor!?


You lot need to make your mind up. My cousin, my family, my relative, infact you and I, belong to same specie, a sentient being called human, your analogy doesn't hold.


If I presit is telling you that he doenst believe in Adam and Eve and that concept of "original sin" is nothing in christinaity, then I would say you, he needs to get his head checked.

Anyway, I am not here to represent other Abrahamic religions, they can defend themselves. Islam is very clear without any ambiguity about the creation of Adam as the first human. Every single Islamic scholar worth it salt, will draw a thick red line when it comes to Human creation. There are some who agree with evolution of other species, but even those reject Human evolution. Because if you believe in Human evolution, you have to reject the Quran , which clearly mention how Adam was created up in heaven and how his soul was breathed into him, and most importantly, the point which I like to emphasis, as default, the exsistence of Satan has also have be rejected as the creations of Adam was the event which caused Satan to become the enemy of mankind. This so called theory of evolution is nothing but a Satanist agenda to only degrade humanity but also reject the existence of Satan.

Those are certainly not a chimps and theistic evolution accepts that god created humans and as the force behind evolution. Evolution denial in the 21st century is pretty useless, you could have said it in darwin's time but now we know about meiosis and how the traits Darwin described appear (due to independent assortment and crossing over during meiosis).
Satanism do not exist and the so-called satanists are just atheist trolls.


So are you planning on getting back to the numbers yet?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Those are certainly not a chimps and theistic evolution accepts that god created humans and as the force behind evolution. Evolution denial in the 21st century is pretty useless, you could have said it in darwin's time but now we know about meiosis and how the traits Darwin described appear (due to independent assortment and crossing over during meiosis).
Satanism do not exist and the so-called satanists are just atheist trolls.


So are you planning on getting back to the numbers yet?

They look chimps/monkey or as we say "Bandar". Pick your choice!!

What amazes me that this garbage is still taught in our schools, here in Pakistan, where in same book we quote Quran and creation of Adam! Darwin theory, is what it is, a theory! Its not a fact of life like it has been marketed and ingrained into feeble minds. Charles Darwin himself was linked to freemasonry, a devilish cult.

I have already explained my point of view regarding numbers.

 

[Godman]

They look chimps/monkey or as we say "Bandar". Pick your choice!!

Looking like one doesn't mean it is one.

1. Did we evolve from monkeys?

Humans did not evolve from monkeys. Humans are more closely related to modern apes than to monkeys, but we didn't evolve from apes, either. Humans share a common ancestor with modern African apes, like gorillas and chimpanzees. Scientists believe this common ancestor existed 5 to 8 million years ago. Shortly thereafter, the species diverged into two separate lineages. One of these lineages ultimately evolved into gorillas and chimps, and the other evolved into early human ancestors

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/faq/cat02.html

What amazes me that this garbage is still taught in our schools, here in Pakistan, where in same book we quote Quran and creation of Adam! Darwin theory, is what it is, a theory! Its not a fact of life like it has been marketed and ingrained into feeble minds. Charles Darwin himself was linked to freemasonry, a devilish cult.

Freemasonry is not devilish