What did the pythagoras mean by ' Everything is made from numbers ?'

[El Sidd]

What abjad got to do with vedas?

Numbers man. Numbers

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Numbers man. Numbers

Numbers yes. Hence the mention of 786. Even our rickshaws got it written on them.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

What he meant was


All Things are built from Numbers

DNA = Has Sequence = Sequence can be different combinations = Different animals have difference combination of Strain sequence


Note Sequence can be tracked by Alphabetical Value or Numerical Value

When certain combination of alphabets or numbers is imagined it can point to an illness or potential trait of illness down the line when person gets to certain age

Numerical bench marks control many aspects of life

a) What numerical age teeth come out or fall
b) What age puberty hits
c) What age your body starts to get it to it's full potential
d) When certain body areas start to diminish in potential



The stuff we call Elements ~ all are call that particular element becasue of number of electons/Protons which we learn in chemistry

 

[El Sidd]

Numbers yes. Hence the mention of 786. Even our rickshaws got it written on them.

in my books its a silly superstition....now crucify me

 

[Joe Shearer]

in my books its a silly superstition....now crucify me

I have to agree. This belongs to a para-science called numerology. So you have an admiral who decides to spell his name Lanba, instead of the conventional Lamba, because then the numbers add up to something auspicious.

In this case, as we all know, and as I was informed by my Muslim friends, the numbers add up to the sum of the letters in Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim. Saying this at the outset of a task is considered auspicious, to those who believe in such things; Hindu equivalents are copiously available.

Sad.

 

[El Sidd]

I have to agree. This belongs to a para-science called numerology. So you have an admiral who decides to spell his name Lanba, instead of the conventional Lamba, because then the numbers add up to something auspicious.

In this case, as we all know, and as I was informed by my Muslim friends, the numbers add up to the sum of the letters in Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim. Saying this at the outset of a task is considered auspicious, to those who believe in such things; Hindu equivalents are copiously available.

Sad.

Well Joe its human nature to be inquisitive and then draw parallel observation just to satisfy the thirst of being informed or in the know.

Vedic scriptures have full blown mathematical theorams and that book is considered holy or divine as well. but no one can provide or disprove those theorams since we just do not have that capability to compute. enough said.

Numerology exists and can be backed up by science but to make a faith out of it is entirely a different matter altogether. Specially in a fast growing superstitious paranoid societies which nowadays have gone full monty on messianism. We are now entering the age of prophetic truth leaving behind the age of gospel truth.

you can use your own wisdom to understand what i mean because i do not like giving away things

 

[Joe Shearer]

Well Joe its human nature to be inquisitive and then draw parallel observation just to satisfy the thirst of being informed or in the know.

Vedic scriptures have full blown mathematical theorams and that book is considered holy or divine as well. but no one can provide or disprove those theorams since we just do not have that capability to compute. enough said.

If it had been anybody else making this remark, I'd have thought it was a reference to the so-called 'Vedic Mathematics'. Since it is you, you will already know that this 'Vedic Mathematics' was a system of short-cuts rather like the Trachtenberg system (that is not to imply that one was derived, or copied, from the other). You must be referring to some serious reference to mathematical content in the Vedas. Other than the geometric details in one of them used to describe the preparation of Yagna sites, I don't know of any other such reference, so it is best, in line with Pythagorean principles, to stay quiet.

Numerology exists and can be backed up by science but to make a faith out of it is entirely a different matter altogether. Specially in a fast growing superstitious paranoid societies which nowadays have gone full monty on messianism. We are now entering the age of prophetic truth leaving behind the age of gospel truth.

you can use your own wisdom to understand what i mean because i do not like giving away things

No comment. I'd rather live a few months more.

 

[El Sidd]

No comment. I'd rather live a few months more. :o

ja simran jee lay apni zindagi

 

[Taimoor Khan]

in my books its a silly superstition....now crucify me

Maybe, but I haven't come across a Maulvi declaring it as a kuffar or Bidah. Let me know if you know any.

 

[El Sidd]

Maybe, but I haven't come across a Maulvi declaring it as a kuffar or Bidah. Let me know if you know any.

i do not need a maulvi to tell me that.
this is a non issue when the local fortune teller has a queue mile long every day

 

[Taimoor Khan]

i do not need a maulvi to tell me that.
this is a non issue when the local fortune teller has a queue mile long every day

What about a Mufti?

TBH, my knowledge of Abjad numerical system is next to nothing. If it was a Bidah, surely, some maulvis would have raised red flags by now!

 

[El Sidd]

What about a Mufti?

TBH, my knowledge of Abjad numerical system is next to nothing. If it was a Bidah, surely, some maulvis would have raised red flags by now!

man why do you think that a mufti or a maulvi is an institution? the religion does not vouch for clergy.
the matters of faith and belief are very clear in the book.

these are all money making schemes for the gullible.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

man why do you think that a mufti or a maulvi is an institution? the religion does not vouch for clergy.
the matters of faith and belief are very clear in the book.

these are all money making schemes for the gullible.

There has to be some sort of decree for or against this. You are then enlighten to form your own opinion afterwards. I haven't seen any, that what I am referring to.

This "money making scheme" was traced 1500 years before Jesus, not a brain child of your next door sanyasi baba. I would exercise caution if I was you, not knowledgeable about something which I believe is dear to sufi lot.

 

[El Sidd]

There has to be some sort of decree for or against this. You are then enlighten to form your own opinion afterwards. I haven't seen any, that what I am referring to.

This "money making scheme" was traced 1500 years before Jesus, not a brain child of your next door sanyasi baba. I would exercise caution if I was you, not knowledgeable about something which I believe is dear to sufi lot.

I am answerable for my own Faith and why cant you let it be. I am not forcing mine unto someone and just voicing an opinion.

Why the snowflakyness?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I am answerable for my own Faith and why cant you let it be. I am not forcing mine unto someone and just voicing an opinion.

Why the snowflakyness?

I am sure you were brought up in Pakistan. Didnt your teacher wrote with chalk on top of the black board, the 786 before the class? Something so ingrained in our society , yet you are trashing it. I am not questioning your faith neither your opinion, all I want to know on what basis or knowledge you are discarding it? I have ZERO knowledge on the subject of Abjad numericals, you seems certain, please enlighten us.