What did the pythagoras mean by ' Everything is made from numbers ?'

[El Sidd]

I am sure you were brought up in Pakistan. Didnt your teacher wrote with chalk on top of the black board, the 786 before the class? Something so ingrained in our society , yet you are trashing it. I am not questioning your faith neither your opinion, all I want to know on what basis or knowledge you are discarding it? I have ZERO knowledge on the subject of Abjad numericals, you seems certain, please enlighten us.

i am discarding it on the basis that the Book fails to give it legitimacy explicitly.

and no my teacher did not write it on the black white board

 

[Taimoor Khan]

i am discarding it on the basis that the Book fails to give it legitimacy explicitly.

and no my teacher did not write it on the black white board

I see, you are a burger then

Book also do not have your Kalima, the declaration of faith, written in it. You are going to discard it as well?

All I got to say to you, that average Joe like me and you do not know things, and if my memory serve, Ali (RA) was quoted saying that if I tell you what I know, you will draw your swords labelling me kafir.

 

[El Sidd]

I see, you are a burger then

Book also do not have your Kalima, the declaration of faith, written in it. You are going to discard it as well?

All I got to say to you, that average Joe like me and you do not know things, and if my memory serve, Ali (RA) was quoted saying that if I tell you what I know, you will draw your swords labelling me kafir.

and this is why i do not give much attention to your antics............

 

[Dash]

Its impossible to understand the universe without Mathematics. Since the beginning of recorded history, mathematic discovery has been at the forefront of every civilized society, and in use in even the most primitive of cultures.The more complex a society, the more complex the mathematical needs. However as human beings evolved and started thinking about mathematics beyond a society, its where it got interesting.

As someone in the very first post said, everything around us is tuned to something which is again a result of some model. Fir example, think of "Cosmological constant" its such a tuned number that even a slightest modification will wipe out the entire universe out of existence.

Thats mathematics for you.

 

[asgur]

Numbers in the most random stuff

 

[Godman]

Numbers yes. Hence the mention of 786. Even our rickshaws got it written on them.

So you think an Omnipotent and Omniscient being cares if some dumb humans put some numbers?
Those are nothing but nonsense invented by humans

 

[Taimoor Khan]

and this is why i do not give much attention to your antics............

No I am not seeking your approval for my antics, I am asking you to put forth your arguments against it. Simple!

 

[El Sidd]

No I am not seeking your approval for my antics, I am asking you to put forth your arguments against it. Simple!

Why??
My arguments against it or for it wont help anyone.
My opinion however should be respected as i respect others to write 786 or 666 as they please.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

So you think an Omnipotent and Omniscient being cares if some dumb humans put some numbers?
Those are nothing but nonsense invented by humans

Where do you think the knowledge of numbers or anything and everything came to mankind?

 

[Well.wisher]

I am sorry, I did not mean to sound dismissive or supercilious; far from it. Kaptaan has a knack for articulating difficult ideas and putting them together in an eminently accessible way. As he so well put it, Pythagoras believed that the entire universe, including such diverse elements as the health of humans, music and the astronomical system, was possible to understand through the use of what we call 'mathematics' today: he himself used the term in its Greek sense of 'seeker'. 'Mathematikoi' is a term for the collective group of seekers that he drew around himself, in an inner circle with strict rules of living, including one demanding silence if uncertain on any matter, on pain of death. He has not been well documented; what we know is simply that he took it that numbers underlaid nature, and that understanding nature was best done through understanding numbers very well. Understanding numbers covered arithmetic and geometry; algebra was not known or practised then.

The simplest possible summary is that the only way to understand the physical universe is to model it mathematically; for instance, the General and Special Theories of Relativity, the Laws of Motion, Gravity, and almost everything that we take for granted today is represented for quick understanding as a mathematical model.

I hope that was more useful.

Oh thank you .
It was indeed helpful as usual : )

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Why??
My arguments against it or for it wont help anyone.
My opinion however should be respected as i respect others to write 786 or 666 as they please.

Why not, its a good medium to share knowledge. I genuinely want to know on what basis you are discarding it, for my own benefit. You talked about that it is not mentioned in the book but then again there are many things which are not, but you believe in them.

Its not your opinion, rather opposition to it, and when you take your position, you must defend it. Trace back you own statements, how you labelled it as some sort of money making scheme. You see my friend, if you don't have knowledge on the subject, at times like these, its better to shut the gob. I do the same.

 

[El Sidd]

Why not, its a good medium to share knowledge. I genuinely want to know on what basis you are discarding it, for my own benefit. You talked about that it is not mentioned in the book but then again there are many things which are not, but you believe in them.

Its not your opinion, rather opposition to it, and when you take your position, you must defend it. Trace back you own statements, how you labelled it as some sort of money making scheme. You see my friend, if you don't have knowledge on the subject, at times like these, its better to shut the gob. I do the same.

i am not here to discuss religion and i have stated what i wanted. take it on face value and be at peace with it.

i do not see everything as a debate or a matter of honor.

feel free to crucify me buddy........... thats what i said in the first place.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

i am not here to discuss religion and i have stated what i wanted. take it on face value and be at peace with it.

i do not see everything as a debate or a matter of honor.

feel free to crucify me buddy........... thats what i said in the first place.

Then don't discuss the religion, swear, I did not bait you when I typed "786", unless you got some itch which compels you to start the religious debate. I am not here to trash you or anything, just share your knowledge, if you have some, for the benefit of all, and I think I have made this very clear.

 

[El Sidd]

Then don't discuss the religion, swear, I did not bait you when I typed "786", unless you got some itch which compels you to start the religious debate. I am not here to trash you or anything, just share your knowledge, if you have some, for the benefit of all, and I think I have made this very clear.

every religion has such instances or parallels can be drawn. whats the big deal

 

[Taimoor Khan]

every religion has such instances or parallels can be drawn. whats the big deal

There is no big deal, you are acting like a drama queen. You took extreme position and then you want to wash you hands off by declaring that you don't want to discuss religious matters.