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What Bangladesh would gain from normalizing relations with Israel?

Figure it out: if Bangladesh recognized Israel before the states you name then Bangladesh would become a leader in the Muslim world. Wouldn't "influence" follow?
No need to become a leader of the Muslim world. I don't think we even have the intention. And doing what you are proposing would likely get Bangladesh kicked out of Ummah.
Perhaps such mullahs have to be confronted if Bangladesh is going to be free and "Western" as the OP author desires. Would you feel good about winning such a battle?
Even westerns have mullahs and they hardly ever confront them. How can Bangladesh do it? No need to make the country unstable.
In the long run is it really in Bangladesh's best interest to slave its policy to the desires of Arabs rather than make a bold assertion of adherence to Western values and the hope of far greater prosperity?

And if the Arabs do expel their Bangladeshi workers isn't their a positive side? Aren't these the most enterprising citizens, the ones most willing to take risks? So as long as the red tape at home is kept to a minimum many of these guys will return with their foreign currency savings to start new businesses to earn a living, right? And won't that be a big boost to Bangladesh's economy?
People considers the Arabs superiors. So the policy of appeasing them is what people want.

And about economic boom, I'm sorry but it doesn't work that way in Bangladesh. These people mostly do manual labour work. They would most likely be unemployed upon returning.

And I think I have said things as clearly as I could. I don't wish to continue with this conversation. You can reply. But find someone else to debate please. If you have intention of debating.
 
No need to become a leader of the Muslim world. I don't think we even have the intention. And doing what you are proposing would likely get Bangladesh kicked out of Ummah.
You don't think you're exaggerating here?

Even westerns have mullahs and they hardly ever confront them. How can Bangladesh do it?
Bangladesh needs it more because Western countries don't have these problems to the same degree.

No need to make the country unstable.
There is always some instability associated with freedom. That's what Western concepts of responsibility are meant to balance.

People considers the Arabs superiors. So the policy of appeasing them is what people want.
Yes, I suppose you'd be working to change that - a kind of public relations campaign.

And about economic boom, I'm sorry but it doesn't work that way in Bangladesh. These people mostly do manual labour work. They would most likely be unemployed upon returning.
How can you be sure of that? The Bangladeshis I knew as a kid returned from the U.S. to Bangladesh and created a textile-exporting business. One daughter became a physician and the other - not too bright, but very enthusiastic - worked in the jewelry trade.

And I think I have said things as clearly as I could. I don't wish to continue with this conversation...
There's no need. I've given you a lot to think about.
 
Have been reading through this thread and I’m glad that there are Bangladeshi brothers with strong imaan, standing steadfast against the Zionist occupation of our oppressed brethren in Palestine.

May Allah ta’ala give us istikamat.... because victory is for those who are on Haq! Imam Hussain Radi Ta’ala Anhu has shown us that this a glorious path
 
its too late for us even .... israel has been recognized by many muslim countries indirectly or directly so the offer would not be that good now
 
Have been reading through this thread and I’m glad that there are Bangladeshi brothers with strong imaan, standing steadfast against the Zionist occupation of our oppressed brethren in Palestine.
Praise to slavery?

May Allah ta’ala give us istikamat.... because victory is for those who are on Haq! Imam Hussain Radi Ta’ala Anhu has shown us that this a glorious path
It is a terrible characteristic of many Pakistani leaders (examples: Z.A. Bhutto, Zia, Kayani) that they measured the justness of their cause by the deaths and hardships suffered by their citizenry, rather than considering them the results due to their own policy choices. What would Pakistan be like today if Z.A. Bhutto had embraced human rights and moderated capitalism rather than kowtowing to Islamists and pushing socialism?
 
I dont want total normalisation of relations like that, as solomon2 is suggesting. I want slow and beneficial, digestible one. I like conflicts around the world. Except in BD. In those cases opens many business options. Such as peacekeeping business. Let Israel and Palestinians decide their border. As BD dont recognize Israel, it gives confidence to Arabs in the region incase of BD peacekeepers are roaming. BD can maintain some relation with Israel behind the curtain, that gives Israel confidence too. Raise voice against Israel openly but get along with them in some issues without much hypes, it keeps all the parties involved happy. Imo its better for Palestine to opt for one state solution. In that case they have more bargaining options. What I know many of them want these too. Their 20% population living in Israel has better rights ensured. What BD would gain from Israel? Maybe in Agriculture field will be beneficial out of this. Look at Ethiopia how their agriculture field improved using Israel's technology. BD is yet to implement tech in this field in massive scale. Maybe some low level tech transfer. A diplomatic ally capable of warning certain issues of the world more effectively. What more Important is that western countries dont disown you that easily if you uphold their values. I know its a lost case, I see many of the people here residing in western countries have grown low level conservative mindset out of insecurity, instead of embracing western culture. Such a waste by not having more open minds. People living in BD mostly dont care or many are filthy uneducated savages. There is nothing Islamic about Palestine movement. These are socialists or communists. And Israel also is sizeable leftist. But some idiots in BD turns it out to be part of their religion to curse Israel. People with western connections know, westerners stand for equality. Where these Arabs are for master slave relations. Besides countries like Indonesia and Malayasia also have relations with Israel and Palestine also recognizes Israel. So I see no issue here, whatever is this BD. I would like to see Israelis do more business with BD influential people, so that people can retrospect how Israelis are, that will increase more BD voices. What Im more interested about Israel is that, Israel comes up with influential western lobbyist. As BD is squeezed among two fascist ideology around. It gives BD some leverage. The Arabs and Muslim powers around the world failed to help BD in Rohingya cause or BD is unable use them in not so Muslim friendly govt in power. So it can atleast use some non Muslim help in this regard. These are just online discussions helpful to make up people's minds. Nobody needs to be assume anything. People with actual power will decide what is best.
 
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You think Myanmar has problems with only the rohingyas? Dude the Myanmar army is dominated by Burmese people who form 20 to 30% of the total population of Myanmar. They have problems with each and every race be it Rakhines, Kachins, Shans, Karens etc. Myanmar is literally fighting the longest civil war in the history of mankind.

But yes they hate Muslims, I guess the global rise in islamophoebia contributed to it.

I know there are other conflict inside that country.

But what they did to the Rohingya was though a level above anything else, they did disgusting act against them.

And the excuse they were fighting against ‘terror’ is a farce everyone in West has also seen through.
 
I dont want total normalisation of relations like that, as solomon2 is suggesting. I want slow and beneficial, digestible one.
Look at the record. For those who have tried it "slow" has not been beneficial nor digestible: such weakness of will just raises hopes among the mullahs that policy can be reversed and then some by the application of increased religious bigotry in mosques and on the streets. Whereas the strong and decisive expression by those governments who recognized Israel and embraced it has turned out to be the path to greater calm and better governance.

I like conflicts around the world. Except in BD. In those cases opens many business options.
War destroys economies, which in the long run makes everyone poorer.
...As BD dont recognize Israel, it gives confidence to Arabs in the region incase of BD peacekeepers are roaming.
Doesn't apply: countries that don't recognize Israel aren't deployed for U.N. peacekeeping duties between Israel and its neighbors.

BD can maintain some relation with Israel behind the curtain, that gives Israel confidence too. Raise voice against Israel openly but get along with them in some issues without much hypes, it keeps all the parties involved happy.
O.K. for Israel but then BD misses out on the benefits the OP author described: the embracing of Western values and the hope for Bangladesh's own greater advancements in science and technology.
 
I dont want total normalisation of relations like that, as solomon2 is suggesting. I want slow and beneficial, digestible one. I like conflicts around the world. Except in BD. In those cases opens many business options. Such as peacekeeping business. Let Israel and Palestinians decide their border. As BD dont recognize Israel, it gives confidence to Arabs in the region incase of BD peacekeepers are roaming. BD can maintain some relation with Israel behind the curtain, that gives Israel confidence too. Raise voice against Israel openly but get along with them in some issues without much hypes, it keeps all the parties involved happy. Imo its better for Palestine to opt for one state solution. In that case they have more bargaining options. What I know many of them want these too. Their 20% population living in Israel has better rights ensured. What BD would gain from Israel? Maybe in Agriculture field will be beneficial out of this. Look at Ethiopia how their agriculture field improved using Israel's technology. BD is yet to implement tech in this field in massive scale. Maybe some low level tech transfer. A diplomatic ally capable of warning certain issues of the world more effectively. What more Important is that western countries dont disown you that easily if you uphold their values. I know its a lost case, I see many of the people here residing in western countries have grown low level conservative mindset out of insecurity, instead of embracing western culture. Such a waste by not having more open minds. People living in BD mostly dont care or many are filthy uneducated savages. There is nothing Islamic about Palestine movement. These are socialists or communists. And Israel also is sizeable leftist. But some idiots in BD turns it out to be part of their religion to curse Israel. People with western connections know, westerners stand for equality. Where these Arabs are for master slave relations. Besides countries like Indonesia and Malayasia also have relations with Israel and Palestine also recognizes Israel. So I see no issue here, whatever is this BD. I would like to see Israelis do more business with BD influential people, so that people can retrospect how Israelis are, that will increase more BD voices. What Im more interested about Israel is that, Israel comes up with influential western lobbyist. As BD is squeezed among two fascist ideology around. It gives BD some leverage. The Arabs and Muslim powers around the world failed to help BD in Rohingya cause or BD is unable use them in not so Muslim friendly govt in power. So it can atleast use some non Muslim help in this regard. These are just online discussions helpful to make up people's minds. Nobody needs to be assume anything. People with actual power will decide what is best.

No, there is no relation between Indonesia and Malaysia with Israel
 
I know there are other conflict inside that country.

But what they did to the Rohingya was though a level above anything else, they did disgusting act against them.

And the excuse they were fighting against ‘terror’ is a farce everyone in West has also seen through.
Could be. As far as I know the other ethnic groups like Kachins, Rakhines and Karens did not suffer immense torture like the rohingyas. The rohingyas were stripped of basic human needs, their homes, crops and shops got destroyed, they got killed and tortured in millions, women got raped and made pregnant, children slaughtered or thrown into fire. It's like Nazi Germany.
 
Look at the record. For those who have tried it "slow" has not been beneficial nor digestible: such weakness of will just raises hopes among the mullahs that policy can be reversed and then some by the application of increased religious bigotry in mosques and on the streets. Whereas the strong and decisive expression by those governments who recognized Israel and embraced it has turned out to be the path to greater calm and better governance.

Its upto BD people what direction they wanna go. In this forum its not gonna be solved. What I know is that, regular BD people lack some freedom as well in the country, power is limited to some. I dont have much hope for BD Israel relation. Just BD's other important priories themselves are displaced. Israel doesnt come in mind.

War destroys economies, which in the long run makes everyone poorer.

Wars/conflicts arent stopping though. As I hope calm in BD. Those people in their countries can hope so. Its not my issue.

Doesn't apply: countries that don't recognize Israel aren't deployed for U.N. peacekeeping duties between Israel and its neighbors.

BD armed forces maintained their position around Golan Heights


No, there is no relation between Indonesia and Malaysia with Israel

Indonesia–Israel relations refers to the historical and current bilateral relationship between Israel and Indonesia. The two countries maintain no formal diplomatic ties,[1] although they maintain quiet trade, tourism and security contacts. In 2012, Indonesia spoke of upgrading relations with Israel and opening a consulate in Ramallah,[2] but this agreement was never implemented.

According to a 2017 BBC World Service Poll, 64% of Indonesians viewed Israel's influence negatively, compared to only 9% expressing a positive view.[3]

Some 30,000 Christian pilgrims from Indonesia visit Israel annually, spending an average of five days in the country.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia–Israel_relations
 
Its upto BD people what direction they wanna go. In this forum its not gonna be solved. What I know is that, regular BD people lack some freedom as well in the country, power is limited to some. I dont have much hope for BD Israel relation. Just BD's other important priories themselves are displaced. Israel doesnt come in mind.



Wars/conflicts arent stopping though. As I hope calm in BD. Those people in their countries can hope so. Its not my issue.



BD armed forces maintained their position around Golan Heights
Are you from Bangladesh?
 

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