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I only mention them, because you implied unilateral sanctions were worthless, when they're not.

I have given you a proper reply, if you don't like it, then that is your problem, not mine.

The US unilateral sanctions have had an effect on Iran. How do you think they even work? Any company, whether foreign or domestic, caught doing business with Iran, falls under these sanctions. With the US being the largest global consumer market, they've pressured mostly European markets to stop doing business with Iran.

The nuclear sanctions targeted mainly banks and oil companies, with other markets being covered in older sanctions that date back to 1996, under the Iran sanctions act (which was updated in 2012, I believe, to also cover nuclear sanctions).

US unilateral sanctions still limit the amount of tech that flows to Iran, and has had a huge impact on Iran's domestic industries, which is why Iran has always been considered behind decades of where they should actually be. It's also the reason why Iran's economy has never crossed the 400 billion GDP mark, even though it should have done so, a decade ago.

This is factual information, not some sort of grand delusion. Iran's affairs don't concern me, and I'm not anti-Iranian either, as I've been often accused of being.

This is a proper reply, if you don't like it, I don't really care.

This is the second time I am asking you to stop quoting me with these time wasting replies. As another member has already stated, you're just replying for the sake of replying and wasting thread space.

Your comments are baseless with no substance. One of the indicators of this is your ignorance on Iranian economical situation, as Iran has already passed the 400billion dollar mark for its nominal GDP. I suggest you don't use wikipedia as your source for your so called "factual information".

I am not going to waste my time with you on Iranian economical situation and why growth has been retarded in such a way because you're simply clueless on this matter.
My original statement was what you said about USA's sanctions on terrorism being effective was fantasy and you then jumped to talking about American unilateral sanctions as whole. And then I said US unilateral sanctions mean jack and are not really effective unless the likes of China, Indian Japan, Russian, South Korea are also on board. Even the Americans themselves do not deny this. US can only damage Iran economically if they can force others to stop their businesses with Iran. The nuclear issue was one exception when many countries, despite the damage to their economies agreed to keep the sanctions until the nuclear issue is resolved mainly due to UN sanctions and UN drive for the resolving of the nuclear issue. However, even the Americans have said that sanctions regime has a limited expiry date. The US will not be able to unilaterally do anything to Iran from now on as the nuclear issue is on the verge of being solved and even if the Americans themselves reject this deal, the sanctions regime will still go out the window and as I told you, even in the committee for foreign relations, just today this was stated . Their own US sanctions will not threaten Iran as Iran does not need the US for anything that the Chinese, Europeans etc cannot fill.

The Americans simply got lucky that they manage to get the countries on their side for the sanction regime for the time they did. Even they are not deluded to think they can do that again. Sorry but, their ability to force nations to join the sanctions is no more. Thus unilaterally, they're highly incapable to inflict serious economical hardship to Iran.
 
This is the second time I am asking you to stop quoting me with these time wasting replies. As another member has already stated, you're just replying for the sake of replying and wasting thread space.
You quoted me, not the other way around. Besides, like I said, just because you don't like what I'm saying, doesn't make my point wrong. If anything, you're wasting my time.

Your comments are baseless with no substance. One of the indicators of this is your ignorance on Iranian economical situation, as Iran has already passed the 400billion dollar mark for its nominal GDP. I suggest you don't use wikipedia as your source for your so called "factual information".
Okay fine, but you missed my point. This should have happened a decade ago, not in the last few years. which I mentioned, and you conveniently have ignored.

I am not going to waste my time with you on Iranian economical situation and why growth has been retarded in such a way because you're simply clueless on this matter.
Or, you know, you have no idea what you're talking about.

My original statement was what you said about USA's sanctions on terrorism being effective was fantasy and you then jumped to talking about American unilateral sanctions as whole.And then I said US unilateral sanctions mean jack and are not really effective unless the likes of China, Indian Japan, Russian, South Korea are also on board. Even the Americans themselves do not deny this. US can only damage Iran economically if they can force others to stop their businesses with Iran. The nuclear issue was one exception when many countries, despite the damage to their economies agreed to keep the sanctions until the nuclear issue is resolved mainly due to UN sanctions and UN drive for the resolving of the nuclear issue. However, even the Americans have said that sanctions regime has a limited expiry date. The US will not be able to unilaterally do anything to Iran from now on as the nuclear issue is on the verge of being solved and even if the Americans themselves reject this deal, the sanctions regime will still go out the window and as I told you, even in the committee for foreign relations, just today this was stated . Their own US sanctions will not threaten Iran as Iran does not need the US for anything that the Chinese, Europeans etc cannot fill.
Okay, you're just repeating points I've already addressed. First off, don't accuse me of things I didn't do. I have NOT talked about sanctions as a whole, in this case. Unilateral sanctions by the US HAVE been effective, as they've artificially stunted Iran's growth for decades (way before the nuclear issue even arose).

Yes, sanctions have an expiration date, but they CAN be renewed. The Iran Libya sanctions act (1996), which was renamed to Iran sanctions act, was renewed. The sanctions basically forced Iran to fend for itself, make it's progress slow. Iran (because US controls almost of the major global financial institutes) had no access to global financial organizations for development funding, and because of that, even today, Iran's infrastructure is far behind what it SHOULD be.

Also, don't flatter yourself, there was very little economic damage done to other countries, as a result of sanctions on Iranian oil. Oil prices rose a bit, everyone went about their day, without too much of a headache.

You clearly don't have any idea how sanctions work, they CAN be renewed. You can't "collapse" a sanctions regime, it would take everyone, including the ones who enforce the sanctions, to withdraw from the sanctions, which cannot easily happen. The Europeans being US allies, especially now a days with the threat of Russia, they would follow US lead, as they always have. If the Europeans can go against Russia, a far bigger trade partner than Iran can ever be, you're out of your mind if you think the Europeans won't side with the US when it comes to Iran. Japan is already a major ally, and sides with the US every time there is a vote taking place. India may side with Iran, but Modi moving closer to the US, there is no longer a guarantee any longer. China would probably remain on the side lines, as it is still uncomfortable with taking sides in other nation's affairs. Russia would probably end up siding with Iran, but for how long? That much isn't clear, especially since Russia's economy is suffering due to mostly sanctions by the US against Russia.

The Americans simply got lucky that they manage to get the countries on their side for the sanction regime for the time they did. Even they are not deluded to think they can do that again. Sorry but, their ability to force nations to join the sanctions is no more. Thus unilaterally, they're highly incapable to inflict serious economical hardship to Iran.
The US is the sole super power in the world, they didn't get "lucky", they exerted their influence. This is completely naive thinking, nothing more.

I'm going to take a page out of your book: don't quote me again, if you have nothing better to say.
 
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That guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Another one of these 'think-tank' fools with no clear understanding of Iran.
 
With the same sanctions in place, Iran is still helping bolster the Syrian regime quite successfully considering how weak the Syrian government is at this moment.
I realize how severe they are, and they're more severe than you seem to give them credit for.
 
With the same sanctions in place, Iran is still helping bolster the Syrian regime quite successfully considering how weak the Syrian government is at this moment.
I would say that Iran is damage controlling, not saving the Syrian government. If Syria falls, then Iran's influence will suffer a massive blow in the region.
 
I would say that Iran is damage controlling, not saving the Syrian government. If Syria falls, then Iran's influence will suffer a massive blow in the region.
Oh I agree with you totally but till now Iran has managed to fight back well. Even though Assad has suffered losses it is basically not crumbling because of Iran.
 
Oh I agree with you totally but till now Iran has managed to fight back well. Even though Assad has suffered losses it is basically not crumbling because of Iran.
Yup, agreed. Though, I have to wonder how long that strategy can last? It seems that the opposition is winning the attrition war, and there seems to be renewed support for them as well.
 
Oh I agree with you totally but till now Iran has managed to fight back well. Even though Assad has suffered losses it is basically not crumbling because of Iran.

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