Welcome to the Iran era

[Kristian]

Iran and Israel are no friends but never happens war un so far.

Whatever.

 

[IR-TR]

thats cute , i mean cruel .

Edit, aside from the ban, I felt bad for the dude. Like insulting a toddler. He's my 3nth moste favourite poster.

 

[The Last of us]

Maybe in homeland even Israel maybe are stronger attack with help of God. Super wars like 60's. But I say that Israel will win in homeland they to. 100,000 soldiers + Air Force strikes back Iran to theirs home ground. Difficult to say excact but Israel can take Iran with nukes. 2 bombs on Teheran. Massive fire power.

Man that's some hardcore power! I think Iran better surrender right now!

In reality, let me tell you something, if Isreal uses any such weapons, it will not live long enough to even see its effects. Anything Isreal uses against Iran, we will retaliate in kind. 2 bombs on Tehran?Iran's officials have already stated Israel is a one bomb state. Heck, Iran does not even need nukes to wipe them out. They're such a midget state that Hezbollah's arsenal alone will be enough for their destruction.

 

[haman10]

Something funny

lol

 

[The Last of us]

Thanks for Editing.

 

[Kristian]

But still both two are in top ten in worlds strongest militants.
Both can win against other country.
Lucky for two enemies.

 

[The Last of us]

But still both two are in top ten in worlds strongest militants.
Both can win against other country.
Lucky for two enemies.

Isreal is in top ten for killing innocent women and children. In 2006 they fought a small Iranian proxy and they were embarrassed left and right. They can't do jack to Iran short of using nukes, but as I said, them using nukes will be the end of them, they know this and have said it openly.

 

[Kristian]

Isreal is in top ten for killing innocent women and children. In 2006 they fought a small Iranian proxy and they were embarrassed left and right. They can't do jack to Iran short of using nukes, but as I said, them using nukes will be the end of them, they know this and have said it openly.

Iran? I say they hates Germans and brittish and french and russians. Evil power with hating things.

 

[That Guy]

No, you clearly don't have more idea than him because you're replying with gibberish. The main sanctions were those preventing financial transaction by Iranian banks etc, none of which had anything to do with human rights and terrorism. The terrorism and human rights sanctions tend to be mostly unilateral sanctions by the US which have very little effect on Iran. So you obviously were missing the point here. The members were talking about the removal of the actual effective sanctions not some irrelevant sanctions.

You seem to have this idea that unilateral US sanctions have little effect on Iran, but seem to forget that the US controls much of the global financial sector, having the biggest hand on how the global economy runs. It can and has enforced sanctions that it declared unilaterally, and forced other nations to follow suit.

Irrelevant? Don't be ridiculous.

Yeah you do . and please read that with sarcasm .

So US has little transactions with Iran , who gives 2 shyts ? the main sanctions - as oppose to what you claimed - were the SWIFT sanction and sanctions related to oil industry and banking .

And please cut the fun mate . just take a breathe and realize that you're discussing these issues with Iranians themselves .

Your nationality has nothing to do with facts.

The fact my comment literally proved yours completely wrong, that should show just how little you know. You may be Iranian, but you clearly know little about your own country's international relations.

 

[Daneshmand]

You seem to have this idea that unilateral US sanctions have little effect on Iran, but seem to forget that the US controls much of the global financial sector, having the biggest hand on how the global economy runs. It can and has enforced sanctions that it declared unilaterally, and forced other nations to follow suit.

Irrelevant? Don't be ridiculous.


Your nationality has nothing to do with facts.

The fact my comment literally proved yours completely wrong, that should show just how little you know. You may be Iranian, but you clearly know little about your own country's international relations.

It is you who does not know what he is talking about. Unlike what you think, Iran is not a backward country that wants to export oil and import some stuff and call it a day. Iran wants to put its industrial capabilities in use. Here is a news for you: Investing in Iran after the lifting of sanctions - BBC News

Just yesterday, an Iranian company signed a 130 million dollar contract with a German-Austrian company to mutually design, test and manufacture engines in Iran using the latest European standards of Euro 6. And these are just the start days. As Iran's minister of industries said in Austria, Iran is no more interested in just buying technology and machines. Iran wants to mutually design and manufacture machines with European firms.

 

[Kabira]

This article about the deal is worth reading:
Analysis: Welcome to the Iran era - Al Jazeera English

Also very interesting is a link in the article to an Israeli assessment of the deal which puts forward different scenarios which most interesting is the scenario which Israel thinks it is most dangerous and that is Iran will honour the deal and come out as a legitimate nuclear threshold state:
http://www.inss.org.il/index.aspx?id=4538&articleid=10100

I am always asking myself if the Nuclear investment was worth it, the article says:
"The nuclear programme was simply Iran's weapon to lift the sanctions, achieve real independence and sovereignty, and improve its regional status.

Nuclear investment enabled Iran to successfully avoid the other detrimental option/model"

Have to see what Sadegh Zibakalam thinks of this! He says it was waste of money, but really was there any other way to remove sanctions in dignified way? I think the west had gave Iran no other choice!

Wait? I though sanctions were put because of nuclear weapon program which eventually failed and left Iran with no other option but to negotiate.

 

[Daneshmand]

Wait? I though sanctions were put because of nuclear weapon program which eventually failed and left Iran with no other option but to negotiate.

NO. Go above and read the article.

 

[Kabira]

NO. Go above and read the article.

I have read it. Nuclear sanctions are being removed, so tell me how did nuclear program help Iran to remove sanctions which were imposed because of nuclear weapon program ? Because sanctions related to terrorism, arms embargo etc still there.

 

[That Guy]

It is you who does not know what he is talking about. Unlike what you think, Iran is not a backward country that wants to export oil and import some stuff and call it a day. Iran wants to put its industrial capabilities in use. Here is a news for you: Investing in Iran after the lifting of sanctions - BBC News

Just yesterday, an Iranian company signed a 130 million dollar contract with a German-Austrian company to mutually design, test and manufacture engines in Iran using the latest European standards of Euro 6. And these are just the start days. As Iran's minister of industries said in Austria, Iran is no more interested in just buying technology and machines. Iran wants to mutually design and manufacture machines with European firms.

As long as there are still sanctions in place, Iran will never have complete access to the global economy.

 

[Daneshmand]

I have read it. Nuclear sanctions are being removed, so tell me how did nuclear program help Iran to remove sanctions which were imposed because of nuclear weapon program ?

Nuclear program created a pressure lever for Iran to exert influence and get a deal for economic cooperation with Europe. What you fail to understand, is this: Iran does not aid or recognition as Iran is a rich country in oil and gas as well as additionally being a very old country. What Iran was in need of was technological advancement. For example see this: Investing in Iran after the lifting of sanctions - BBC News

An Iranian company signed a 130 million dollar contract with a German-Austrian company to mutually design, test and manufacture engines in Iran using the latest European standards of Euro 6. This is what Iran wants. On a large scale. If Europe gives to Iran, then Iran will remain a nuclear threshold state much like Japan. If not then Iran can always go back and do what it was doing before. It is all about national interest.

As long as there are still sanctions in place, Iran will never have complete access to the global economy.

That is what you are saying. You carve your way into the international market. It is not given to you.