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@cabatli_53 , would you mind to enlight us, bro?How good is Trophy system in comparison Akkor?
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@cabatli_53 , would you mind to enlight us, bro?How good is Trophy system in comparison Akkor?
Because Nothing significant is coming for Pakistani militaryKhiali pulao is in great demand...................
Those 8 submarines will take 8 years to come... Till then India will have 30 to 35 submarinesRPG-29, hj-12, 2 more awacs,100 t-129,12 aip subs(8 are coming),6 corvetes,20 fac with sam capability and surely most important double the production capability of jf-17 (50 per year)
we already have hq-9
note:60 % of my wish list is coming/are in our arsenal
3-4 year maximum timeThose 8 submarines will take 8 years to come... Till then India will have 30 to 35 submarines
Strong Economy & Consistent Budget Support is must for a Strong Military
Lets see...3-4 year maximum time
Please add satellite systems and star war systems with hypersonic missiles,Aah just to make a list
- Tsar Bomba
- ICBM with 10+k km range
- EFT-2000 10 sqdrns
- Su-35 15 sqdrns
- JH7B 10 sqdrns
- JF17 block IV 50 sqdrns
- Next Gen Aircraft 10 sqdrn
- 10 SSBN
- 15 SSN
- 20 Diesel submarines with AIP (Merlin or Messma) indigenously developed sub
- 10 destroyers, 10 frigates, 5 corvettes, 10 missile boats
- 5 aircraft carriers with JF-17 N (naval version)
- S-500 next gen Russian air defence system
- A good honest prime minister
- A team of professionals for as ministers
Popeye Turbo SLCM—A reportedly stretched version of the Popeye Turbo developed for use as a submarine-launched cruise missile (SLCM) was widely reported in a US Navy observed 2002 test in the Indian Ocean to have hit a target at 1500 km. It can allegedly carry a 200 kt nuclear warhead. It is believed that the stretched Popeye Turbo is the primary strategic second strike nuclear deterrent weapon that can be fired from the 650 mm secondary torpedo tubes of the Israeli Dolphin-class submarines.[1] It is believed that the SLCM version of the Popeye was developed by Israel after the US Clinton administration refused an Israeli request in 2000 to purchase Tomahawk long range SLCM's because of international MTCR proliferation rules.[7] While the standard Popeye is 533 mm theDolphin class submarines have four 650 mm torpedo tubes in addition to the six standard 533 mm tubes allowing for the possibility that a SLCM Popeye derivative may be a larger diameter.
Israeli invention, cornershot
correction.... not nuclear... it was their brilliance which caused them to implode.It's actually a German invention. Israel was the first to innovate it
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Mostly everything is German tech. Created by nazi scientists. Infrared sights (Vampir), ballistic missiles (V2), nukes etc. were all developed by Germans. There's a reason that the Us brought many Nazi scientists to America for weapon developments. Nazis were brilliant people.
correction.... not nuclear... it was their brilliance which caused them to implode.
thank fully their nuclear program never got off the ground and it had been abandoned it was not considered worthwhile. Nazis were evil people. Thankfully world is better off.They were just out numbered to the point it didn't matter what high tech weapons you had at the time. And they were planning on creating nuclear weapons too.
That is an excellent system but I was thinking of something as quiet and compact as possible with the capability to pass through enemy defences undetected and launching a single nuclear armed BM. Think of it as an oversized Torpedo-BM hybrid.Don't make me hurt you!! Look, it's feasible. We know how to launch missiles from subs, and missiles with a range of several hundred km exist. We could mate a missile like ATACMS to a midget submarine if we wanted, but it's of dubious value and is a single mission weapon. You're aren't going to go through the trouble of creating such a system unless you're arming it with a nuclear payload.
ATACMS is small enough and matches the range profile, and though it's not submarine launch capable, a similar missile of the same dimension could be.
Try a midget submarine like the Russian Piranha-T, an attack variant of the base Piranha class special missions submarine shown bellow. They are not just surface attack platforms capable of launching SLCMs or Torpedoes, but can launch and recover unmanned underwater vehicles and divers, which makes them multi-role and not relegated to second strike only.
They have more value and can serve a variety of special missions ranging from ISR to sabotage, mine-laying, cable-tapping and attack if needed. They're a better option for the PN to explore.
Specs
Length: 28.2 meters
Beam: 4.74 meter
Displacement: 218 tons surfaced, 287tns submerged
Speed: Maximum 6.28 kts surfaced, 6.5kts submerged
Operating depth: 180m (200m max)
Endurance : 10 days, 603nm at cruising speed of 4kts surfaced, 260nm at 4kts submerged
Armament: (inner tubes) 2 x 533mm (21") torpedo tubes for sub-size 400mm Latouche anti-ship torpedoes which swim out.
SDVs: (outer tubes) 2 x Sirena-UM Swimmer Delivery Vehicles, or 6-8 'Proton' diver propulsion devices
Crew: 3
Special Forces: 6
With 533mm and 400mm internal torpedo tubes and a limited diver launch and recovery capability, using the scary and dangerous torpedo tube lockout method.
They are small, quiet and deadly sneak attack craft that are capable of launching heavy weight torpedoes or cruise missiles (potentially nuclear armed).
A version fitted with an AIP propulsion system called Pirhana-2 has surfaced as well.
Ballistic missiles are cool, I guess, but I believe this is a far better solution to your second strike needs if you're going to explore the midget submarine route.