“We will hunt them down in Kunar and Nooristan,” said Asim Bajwa DG ISPR.

[Afghan-India]

Lost all wars? How? Please stop spreading bs, otherwise i will personally hunt you down before PA does.

that's what happens when you swallow naswar along with gaumutra

Dirty dal khor.

'48 War got us nearly 1/3rd of Kashmir with India holding the other 1/3rd & China holding the remainder !

'65 War got us through some brilliant battles but an overall stalemate !

'71 War was fought a 1000 kms away from mainland Pakistan & was essentially a Civil War that our Enemy capitulated on - I'd love to see any other country performing any better a 1000 kms separated from its nearest base surrounding by hostile territory !

But funny an Afghan of all people would be commenting on the merits or demerits of the PA when Afghanistan has been under occupation for the past few decades & survives on hand-me-downs !

Really? you can't change your history by stating something else.

 

[pakdefender]

Like the Gostha incident, exactly we are talking about PA, an army which has lost all of its wars.

One for Afghan

One for India

Dirty dal khor.



Really? you can't change your history by stating something else.

Dal Khor is better than being a Naswar Khor , that too naswar mixed with gaumutra

 

[Armstrong]

Really? you can't change your history by stating something else.

I'm not stating something else - I'm stating the facts !

We lost '71...we performed fairly well in '65 & '48 & numerous other small skirmishes & engagements !

Talking about history - Shouldn't an Afghan be a bit more humble when criticizing another country especially one that fed & clothed your kind for decades as your country was under Occupation as it still is ?

 

[Afghan-India]

One for Afghan

One for India

Dal Khor is better than being a Naswar Khor

Less accurate and reliable than Hamas rockets. Watch out that it doesn't change to one for Islamabad and one for Karachi

I'm not stating something else - I'm stating the facts !

We lost '71...we performed fairly well in '65 & '48 & numerous other small skirmishes & engagements !

Talking about history - Shouldn't an Afghan be a bit more humble when criticizing another country especially one that fed & clothed your kind for decades as your country was under Occupation as it still is ?

You should kneel when talking to an Afghan about history, as your ancestors did.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Really? you can't change your history by stating something else.

With the special exception of 1971( where Indira exploited the political follies by Bhutto and Mujib and RAW infiltrated the Awami League), Indian military has not scored any clear victories over Pakistan.

Even in 1971, Pakistanis inflicted heavy damage on Indian military.

"This airforce(the PAF), is second to none"
"The air war lasted two weeks and the Pakistanis scored a
three-to-one kill ratio, knocking out 102 Russian-made Indian jets and losing thirty-four airplanes of their own. I'm certain about the figures because I went out several times a day in a chopper and counted the wrecks below." "They were really good, aggressive dogfighters and proficient in gunnery and air combat tactics. I was damned impressed. Those guys just lived and breathed flying. "

(General (Retd.) Chuck Yeager (USAF) , Book: Yeager, the
Autobiography).

1965,

"Pakistan claims to have destroyed something like 1/3rd the Indian Air Force, and foreign observers, who are in a position to know say that Pakistani pilots have claimed even higher kills than this; but the Pakistani Air Force are being scrupulously honest in evaluating these claims. They are crediting Pakistan Air Force only those killings that can be checked from other sources."

Roy Meloni,
American Broadcasting Corporation
September 15, 1965.

1965 War, the Inside Story by R.D. Pradhan:

In Chapter 8 titled "Of Cowardice and Panic", the author describes the cowardice of Maj. Gen. Niranjan Prasad, the Indian general commanding officer in Lahore sector. When the general was fired upon by Pakistani forces, he "ran away". "On learning that, Lt. Gen. Harbakash Singh and the corps commander drove in a Jonga to the battlefront. Army commander found that the enemy (PAF) air attack had created a havoc on G.T. Road. (Indian) Vehicles were burning and several vehicles of 15 Division abandoned on the road, the drivers having run away, leaving some of the engines still running. Maj. Gen. Niranjan Prasad was hiding in a recently irrigated sugar cane field. As described by Harabakash Singh: "He (Prasad) came out to receive us, with his boots covered with wet mud. He had no head cover, nor was he wearing any badges of his rank. He had stubble on his face, not having shaved." Seeing him in such a stage, Harbakhash Singh asked him: "Whether he was the General Officer commanding a division or a coolie? Why had he removed badges of rank and not shaved? Niranjan Prasad had no answer."

Pradhan's book contains many different entries by Indian Defense Minister Y.B. Chavan. A Sept 9, 1965 entry reads: Had a very hard day on all fronts. Very fierce counter-attacks mounted and we are required to withdraw in Kasur area. COAS was somewhat uncertain of himself. I suggested to him that he should go in forward areas so that he will be in touch of realities. He said he would go next day.

In Line of Duty: A Soldier Remembers, Lt Gen Harbakhsh Singh reveals that not only did Gen Chowdhury play a very small role in the entire campaign, he was so nervous as to be on the verge of losing half of Punjab to Pakistan, including the city of Amritsar. Harbakhsh describes, in clinical detail, how our own offensive in the Lahore sector had come unhinged. The general commanding the division on Ichchogil canal fled in panic, leaving his jeep, its wireless running and the briefcase containing sensitive documents that were then routinely read on Radio Pakistan during the war. Singh wanted to court martial him, Chowdhury let him get away with resignation.

According to Shekhar Gupta, the editor of Indian Express, Harbkhash Singh recounts that a bigger disaster struck a bit to the south where the other division cracked up in assault, just as it encountered a bit of resistance. Several infantry battalions, short on battle inoculation, deserted and Singh gives a hair-raising account – and confirmation of a long-debated rumor – that Chowdhury panicked so badly he ordered him to withdraw to a new defensive line behind the Beas, thereby conceding half of Punjab to Pakistan. Singh describes the conversation with Chowdhury at Ambala where he refused to carry out the order, asking his chief to either put it down in writing or visit the front and take charge of the battle.

The London Daily Mirror reported in 1965:

"There is a smell of death in the burning Pakistan sun. For it was here that India's attacking forces came to a dead stop.

"During the night they threw in every reinforcement they could find. But wave after wave of attacks were repulsed by the Pakistanis"

"India", said the London Daily Times, "is being soundly beaten by a nation which is outnumbered by four and a half to one in population and three to one in size of armed forces."

In Times reporter Louis Karrar wrote:

"Who can defeat a nation which knows how to play hide and seek with death".

USA - Aviation week & space technology - December 1968 issue.

"For the PAF, the 1965 war was as climatic as the Israeli victory over the Arabs in 1967. A further similarity was that Indian air power had an approximately 5:1 numerical superiority at the start of the conflict. Unlike the Middle East conflict, the Pakistani air victory was achieved to a large degree by air-to-air combat rather than on ground. But it was as absolute as that attained by Israel.

UK - Air International - November - 1991

" the average PAF pilot is almost certainly possessed of superior skills when compared with, say, an average American pilot. As to those who are rated above average, they compare favorably to the very best."

Encyclopaedia of Aircraft printed in several countries by Orbis publications - Volume 5

"Pakistan's air force gained a remarkable victory over India in this brief 22 day war exploiting its opponents weaknesses in exemplary style - Deeply shaken by reverse, India began an extensive modernisation and training program, meanwhile covering its defeat with effective propaganda smoke screen.

To prove its air superiority, PAF put its entire fleets on show for inspection after BOTH of the wars in presence of world dignitaries and aviation community. The five times bigger IAF should have been able to annihilate the tiny PAF to prevent such displays.

Yoichi Shimatsu, a Japanese journalist and former editor of Japan Times, wrote as follows about LeT and Kargil:

Blaming the Lahore-based Lashkar is all-too easy since the outfit was once the West Point of the Kashmir insurgency. The Army of the Righteous, as it is known in English, was a paramilitary force par excellence that routinely mauled the Indian Army along the Himalayan ridge that forms the Line of Control of divided Kashmir. In an attack on the strategic town of Kargil in late spring 1999, Lashkar broke through India’s alpine defense line and came close to forcing New Delhi to the negotiating table.

Along the sawtooth LoC, Lashkar is respected by professional soldiers on both side. A Pakistani hero who fought on the Baltistan heights, Corporal Ahmed, told me of his admiration for the stoicism of these jihadis, who wore sandals to battle in the snow. At a checkpoint in Indian-controlled Kargil, an army captain wearing a Sikh turban said frankly that nobody in the Indian Army could fight man-to-man against Lashkar.

Lashkar earned its reputation in clean-fought mountain warfare, pitting lightly armed guerrillas against Indian armor and superior firepower.

 

[Multani]

bomb the sh!t out them in Afghanistan as well .. kill some Afghan intelligence peoples as well .

i believe Pakistan has the right to attack them in Nuristan

 

[pakdefender]

Less accurate and reliable than Hamas rockets. Watch out that it doesn't change to one for Islamabad and one for Karachi

When a 500 kilo ton war head comes your way attached to one of these then all the chars and naswar induced false bravado and and grandeur will turn to liquid and come out from your back hole

 

[Armstrong]

You should kneel when talking to an Afghan about history, as your ancestors did.

Why should I ? I kneel before Pukhtoon History not Afghan History - We've got more than twice the Pukhtoons than the rest of the world combined - Our People...Our Flesh & Blood !

You should crawl somewhere & weep thinking what Ahmed Shah Baba would be thinking knowing that the Afghans spent the last 3 decades as an Occupied people !

 

[rockstar08]

i believe Pakistan has the right to attack them in Nuristan

i believe all those who attack pakistan has the right to die as scum bags

 

[Afghan-India]

With the special exception of 1971( where Indira exploited the political follies by Bhutto and Mujib and RAW infiltrated the Awami League), Indian military has not scored any clear victories over Pakistan.

Even in 1971, Pakistanis inflicted heavy damage on Indian military.

"This airforce(the PAF), is second to none"
"The air war lasted two weeks and the Pakistanis scored a
three-to-one kill ratio, knocking out 102 Russian-made Indian jets and losing thirty-four airplanes of their own. I'm certain about the figures because I went out several times a day in a chopper and counted the wrecks below." "They were really good, aggressive dogfighters and proficient in gunnery and air combat tactics. I was damned impressed. Those guys just lived and breathed flying. "

(General (Retd.) Chuck Yeager (USAF) , Book: Yeager, the
Autobiography).

1965,

"Pakistan claims to have destroyed something like 1/3rd the Indian Air Force, and foreign observers, who are in a position to know say that Pakistani pilots have claimed even higher kills than this; but the Pakistani Air Force are being scrupulously honest in evaluating these claims. They are crediting Pakistan Air Force only those killings that can be checked from other sources."

Roy Meloni,
American Broadcasting Corporation
September 15, 1965.

1965 War, the Inside Story by R.D. Pradhan:

In Chapter 8 titled "Of Cowardice and Panic", the author describes the cowardice of Maj. Gen. Niranjan Prasad, the Indian general commanding officer in Lahore sector. When the general was fired upon by Pakistani forces, he "ran away". "On learning that, Lt. Gen. Harbakash Singh and the corps commander drove in a Jonga to the battlefront. Army commander found that the enemy (PAF) air attack had created a havoc on G.T. Road. (Indian) Vehicles were burning and several vehicles of 15 Division abandoned on the road, the drivers having run away, leaving some of the engines still running. Maj. Gen. Niranjan Prasad was hiding in a recently irrigated sugar cane field. As described by Harabakash Singh: "He (Prasad) came out to receive us, with his boots covered with wet mud. He had no head cover, nor was he wearing any badges of his rank. He had stubble on his face, not having shaved." Seeing him in such a stage, Harbakhash Singh asked him: "Whether he was the General Officer commanding a division or a coolie? Why had he removed badges of rank and not shaved? Niranjan Prasad had no answer."

Pradhan's book contains many different entries by Indian Defense Minister Y.B. Chavan. A Sept 9, 1965 entry reads: Had a very hard day on all fronts. Very fierce counter-attacks mounted and we are required to withdraw in Kasur area. COAS was somewhat uncertain of himself. I suggested to him that he should go in forward areas so that he will be in touch of realities. He said he would go next day.

In Line of Duty: A Soldier Remembers, Lt Gen Harbakhsh Singh reveals that not only did Gen Chowdhury play a very small role in the entire campaign, he was so nervous as to be on the verge of losing half of Punjab to Pakistan, including the city of Amritsar. Harbakhsh describes, in clinical detail, how our own offensive in the Lahore sector had come unhinged. The general commanding the division on Ichchogil canal fled in panic, leaving his jeep, its wireless running and the briefcase containing sensitive documents that were then routinely read on Radio Pakistan during the war. Singh wanted to court martial him, Chowdhury let him get away with resignation.

According to Shekhar Gupta, the editor of Indian Express, Harbkhash Singh recounts that a bigger disaster struck a bit to the south where the other division cracked up in assault, just as it encountered a bit of resistance. Several infantry battalions, short on battle inoculation, deserted and Singh gives a hair-raising account – and confirmation of a long-debated rumor – that Chowdhury panicked so badly he ordered him to withdraw to a new defensive line behind the Beas, thereby conceding half of Punjab to Pakistan. Singh describes the conversation with Chowdhury at Ambala where he refused to carry out the order, asking his chief to either put it down in writing or visit the front and take charge of the battle.

The London Daily Mirror reported in 1965:

"There is a smell of death in the burning Pakistan sun. For it was here that India's attacking forces came to a dead stop.

"During the night they threw in every reinforcement they could find. But wave after wave of attacks were repulsed by the Pakistanis"

"India", said the London Daily Times, "is being soundly beaten by a nation which is outnumbered by four and a half to one in population and three to one in size of armed forces."

In Times reporter Louis Karrar wrote:

"Who can defeat a nation which knows how to play hide and seek with death".

USA - Aviation week & space technology - December 1968 issue.

"For the PAF, the 1965 war was as climatic as the Israeli victory over the Arabs in 1967. A further similarity was that Indian air power had an approximately 5:1 numerical superiority at the start of the conflict. Unlike the Middle East conflict, the Pakistani air victory was achieved to a large degree by air-to-air combat rather than on ground. But it was as absolute as that attained by Israel.

UK - Air International - November - 1991

" the average PAF pilot is almost certainly possessed of superior skills when compared with, say, an average American pilot. As to those who are rated above average, they compare favorably to the very best."

Encyclopaedia of Aircraft printed in several countries by Orbis publications - Volume 5

"Pakistan's air force gained a remarkable victory over India in this brief 22 day war exploiting its opponents weaknesses in exemplary style - Deeply shaken by reverse, India began an extensive modernisation and training program, meanwhile covering its defeat with effective propaganda smoke screen.

To prove its air superiority, PAF put its entire fleets on show for inspection after BOTH of the wars in presence of world dignitaries and aviation community. The five times bigger IAF should have been able to annihilate the tiny PAF to prevent such displays.

Yoichi Shimatsu, a Japanese journalist and former editor of Japan Times, wrote as follows about LeT and Kargil:

Blaming the Lahore-based Lashkar is all-too easy since the outfit was once the West Point of the Kashmir insurgency. The Army of the Righteous, as it is known in English, was a paramilitary force par excellence that routinely mauled the Indian Army along the Himalayan ridge that forms the Line of Control of divided Kashmir. In an attack on the strategic town of Kargil in late spring 1999, Lashkar broke through India’s alpine defense line and came close to forcing New Delhi to the negotiating table.

Along the sawtooth LoC, Lashkar is respected by professional soldiers on both side. A Pakistani hero who fought on the Baltistan heights, Corporal Ahmed, told me of his admiration for the stoicism of these jihadis, who wore sandals to battle in the snow. At a checkpoint in Indian-controlled Kargil, an army captain wearing a Sikh turban said frankly that nobody in the Indian Army could fight man-to-man against Lashkar.

Lashkar earned its reputation in clean-fought mountain warfare, pitting lightly armed guerrillas against Indian armor and superior firepower.

you guys lost the 1965 war, that is actually that simple.

Why should I ? I kneel before Pukhtoon History not Afghan History - We've got more than twice the Pukhtoons than the rest of the world combined - Our People...Our Flesh & Blood !

You should crawl somewhere & weep thinking what Ahmed Shah Baba would be thinking knowing that the Afghans spent the last 3 decades as an Occupied people !

Pukhtoons are not pakis, Pakistan is temporary.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Like the Gostha incident, exactly we are talking about PA, an army which has lost all of its wars.

A file photo of a Pakistani check post at the Goshta district of Nangarhar province, where Afghanistan shares borders with Pakistan. PHOTO: REUTERS

ISLAMABAD:
Pakistan Army rubbished Afghan claims on Thursday that its personnel had clashes with Afghan troops, insisting that it was the Afghan National Army troops that resorted to unprovoked firing on a Pakistani post near Qilla Saifullah in Balochistan province.

Afghan officials had earlier claimed that its border police officer was killed after clashes broke out between Pakistani and Afghan troops along the border in the southern Kandahar province.

A statement posted on the Afghan interior minister’s website said that no country was to build any checkpoint or bunker within four kilometres of the border under a tripartite agreement between Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nato.

“Pakistani forces have violated the agreement and dug bunkers and built posts two kilometres near the Zero Point along the Durand Line,” the statement said.

Pakistan Army rejected the claim saying that no new construction is being carried out by Pakistani troops inside the Afghan territory.

The Afghan interior ministry said that the border police had requested the Pakistani forces to stop the construction and to retreat to their previous positions. “However the Pakistani forces refused,” it claimed.

The Kandahar police chief spokesman, Ahmad Zia Durani, said the clashes broke out after Afghan border police forces “stopped the Pakistani troops to build check posts inside the Afghan soil.”

“Pakistani troops responded effectively to firing by Afghan troops. No loss has been reported so far,” a Pakistani official said in a statement.

The Afghan interior ministry had accused Pakistani forces of starting the construction of bunkers and check posts inside the Afghan territory in Maroof district of Kandahar.

Afghan media reported that the Pakistani forces have attacked a number of the Afghan check posts which sparked clashes between the two sides. After the clashes the Afghan provincial authorities also sought help from the central government. Afghan private television channels reported that more Afghan troops were being deployed as the fighting between Pakistani and Afghan forces continues.

Pakistan and Afghanistan share nearly 2,500 kilometres of border and both routinely accuse each other of cross-border attacks. Pakistan says that senior leaders of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan have regrouped fighters in Afghanistan border region and frequently launch attacks on Pakistani border posts.

Officials also say that the TTP chief Maulvi Fazalullah leads his Taliban men in Afghanistan’s Nuristan province. Last year, Afghan officials arrested the TTP deputy chief Maulvi Faqir in Nangarhar province.

Published in The Express Tribune, May 16th, 2014.


So much for the boastin .. right.

 

[Multani]

you guys lost the 1965 war, that is actually that simple.



Pukhtoons are not pakis, Pakistan is temporary.

Pakistan has 30 million Pakhtoons

Do you support the terrorists hiding in Kunar and Nuristan?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

He said “We will hunt them down wherever they go”, and you guys translate it to Kunar and Nooristan.

Listen he meant wherever in Pakistan and more precisely in North Waziristan.

Trust me he would not dare to cross the border.

he dared that twice already

the Afghan intelligence chief got really emotional due to our hit almost as much as when Americans snatched Latif Ullah Mehsood from his men.

 

[Armstrong]

Pukhtoons are not pakis, Pakistan is temporary.

Pukhtoons are Pakistanis through & through & they've risen to the occasion whenever Pakistan needed them hence why they're so highly represented in the Pakistan Armed Forces & the FC - I don't see them deserting in droves or being drug addicts like your guys from the ANA - Speaks volumes about who's who !

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

you guys lost the 1965 war, that is actually that simple.

Yeah sure... just like this:

Pukhtoons are not pakis, Pakistan is temporary.

Have you found 1 Pak Pakhtun on PDF giving a shit abt you guys n your tantrums?