We should learn from Turkey and launch an offensive to liberate Kashmir.

[Zhukov]

YPG does not represent the Kurds. Do not repeat this crusade propaganda. YPG / PKK is what ISIS is, because their masters are the same. Enough is enough!

Picking words is not a good thing. What i wanted to say was conveyed and understood by all.YPG PKK are Exclusively Kurds if i am correct. No Arabs or Turks are members of these Organizations So those militants are Kurds. You cant hide the previous 5 decades of history of Socialist Terrorism by these people in Turkey and Syria by using politically correct terms.
Some of your countrymen always tell me on other forums that Kurd are not a race at all, it is just a group of refugees coming from different regions and races and they use this Kurdish Nationalism just want to carve out another State from Turkey, Iran,Syria and Iraq. And that Most of these people living in Turkey don't recognize themselves with these socialist Separatists. And Some of them even said that your defense minister Hulusi Akar is also from the same descent as these Kurds Claim.
I apologize if i sound Racist though. But this a fact. PKK are all kurds.

 

[PradoTLC]

lol FYI i live in Pakistan i guess its been quite a while you didnt visit your own country from UAE, keep your assertions about Pakistan while living abroad to your self if you ask me

and yet you do not know what is going on...wow

what is your home address ? Rock # 32?

lol

and yet you do not know what is going on...wow

what is your home address ? Rock # 32?

lol

for your education
here is a start.....

Opinion | Why Can't Pakistan Afford to Ban Indian Movies ...

https://www.nytimes.com › 2019/07/01 › opinion › india-pakistan-movie-ban

Jul 1, 2019 - In Pakistan, theater owners decided not to screen Indian movies. ... The immensely popular world of cinema became a space for competing, ...

 

[Baby Leone]

and yet you do not know what is going on...wow

what is your home address ? Rock # 32?

lol

ohh come on give me a break as everyone here knows me.......as i said keep your illogical assertions about my country to yourself may be you are talking about a period when you lived in Pakistan some decades ago things have changed alot, come and visit and then press the post reply button. i am fed up of this oldies rhetoric about cultural invasion which i have never seen.

 

[PradoTLC]

ohh come on give me a break as everyone here knows me.......as i said keep your illogical assertions about my country to yourself may be you are talking about a period when you lived in Pakistan some decades ago things have changed alot, come and visit and then press the post reply button. i am fed up of this oldies rhetoric about cultural invasion which i have never seen.

keep telling your self that....

ignorance is a bliss....

 

[Baby Leone]

and yet you do not know what is going on...wow

what is your home address ? Rock # 32?

lol




for your education
here is a start.....

Opinion | Why Can't Pakistan Afford to Ban Indian Movies ...

https://www.nytimes.com › 2019/07/01 › opinion › india-pakistan-movie-ban
View attachment 584206
Jul 1, 2019 - In Pakistan, theater owners decided not to screen Indian movies. ... The immensely popular world of cinema became a space for competing, ...

even Indian extremists are crying about Pakistani entertainment getting popular in India they have banned Pakistani serials on their channels and now still Pakistani serials are widely popular among indians due to YT.

get educated first and think logically

keep telling your self that....

ignorance is a bliss....

it is for you and your kind as i am on ground and not farting in air like you while sitting outside Pakistan

 

[PradoTLC]

****it is for you and your kind as i am on ground ******



And yet i know better than you..

sad isnt it?




*****and not farting in air like you while sitting outside Pakistan****

Re: You claim Indian movies are not popular in Pakistan. You do realise you do sound like a complete ignorant fool?



*****even Indian extremists are crying about Pakistani entertainment getting popular in India they have banned Pakistani serials on their channels *****


RE: Interesting. However that was not the subject matter. i think you are confused. So let me break it down to you

Again are Indian media products popular in Pakistan ?

yes or no

Answer which even a donkey in Pakistan knows is : Yes.




****get educated first and think logically*****

RE: hilarous.. coming from you.

 

[Dubious]

Oh for fcuks sakes grow up. Talking bullshit only reduces your credibility. Anybody with even marginal reading of history knows what I enumerated above. Must you live in cloud cuckoo land?

1971 - clarification. Although we began the hostilities when PAF launched air attacks on Indian targets but these can be considered as pre-emptive as India was about to launch a full scale war on Pakistan. Thus clearly India began this war as it had been preparing for some months.

Siachin was India's Kargil. As Indian Army sneaked into what was undefenced territory but ipso facto considered as Pakistan territory. Unlike Musharaf India succeeded as by the time Gen. Zia woke up India had already grabbed the heights. Ever since PA has been in a defensive posture.

Language...

Discuss politely!

Not quite.

• 1948 - we started it.
• 1965 - we started it
• 1971 - India started it
• 1982 - Siachin, India started it
• 1999 - Kargil, we started it

"1948 - we started it."
nope injuns did by sending a man to GB to take charge and make it part of dogra Kashmir but Gilgit scouts retaliated by locking-up him and his entourage of dogras on November 1, 1947, then started to advance towards what is now Azad Kashmir. probably because they knew what dogras had done in Bagh and surrounding areas.

injuns started it all on 22 October 1947 scouts started retaliating 1 November 1947 it all ended 5 January 1949 by UN coming to the injun aid/rescue

@doorstar please reply in the open

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Discuss politely!

Sorry madam. When I get grouchy as is want of a old man, I tend to use language not appropriate. But do forgive ...

 

[Dubious]

Sorry madam. When I get grouchy as is want of a old man, I tend to use language not appropriate. But do forgive ...

Carry on...just mind the language...

That post wasnt just for you but for everyone henceforth!

People keep the thread clean...Discuss politely!

 

[Chhatrapati]

I am not worried about present situation in kashmir.i am worried about war.we have never seen this type of aggressive policy from any indian government.militancy,bomb blasts and even indian army in Kashmir is separate topics but at least we should try to bring peace.problem is your government is not listening to Pakistani requests.they are ignoring peace talks and majority of people in India supports your government.i mean if you wanted to change demography or wanted to change this Kashmir conflict according to your definition than why it took you 70 years? Obviously India accepted pakistan as a party in Kashmir debate.what is the value of bilateral if India alone is making decisions? People in India say that your government is doing the right thing.they want to see real damage on pakistani side.under bjp,I have no hope for peace.my question is why put pakistan in this situation where India is taking decisions unilaterally and calling it bilateral to international community? Also 370 abrogation is a rule against constitution of india.how can we solve this situation? This is clearly taking us towards another useless war.i am not talking about war by keeping pakistan in mind,think about indian army statements as well.

Peace talks cannot happen until Pakistan end support for Kashmir militancy. Which I'm pretty sure not going to happen. As long as there are militants targeting civilians and military/police, there is no room for peace talks.

What took 70 years maybe India expected a situation like we have with China, a dispute that do not involve so many players. Speaking of bilateral, every time India is up for a peace talk, Pakistan demands inviting hurriyath, or your ambassadors conduct meeting with Hurriyath leaders. So much for 'bilateral' talks.

India didn't put Pakistan in any situation, you put yourselves in the situation, article 370 finds no mention in bilateral agreements or any UN charters.
Article 370 was something granted by constitution, in somewhat an unconstitutional way (simply added it with a presidential note without parliaments approval).
Parliament can amend the constitution without altering the fundamental nature of the constitution. That's exactly what this government has done.

 

[Salik]

What happened afterwards does not change the basic facts about demarcation north of NJ9842. What India did was sneaky but likely legal. What Pakistan did was gallant, but reactive and ineffective. Calling it Siachen is disingenuous as Pakistan sits on the western slopes of the Saltoro ridge, with all of Siachin (now) on the Indian side of the LoC.

(Please also keep in mind that Pakistan had a role in precipitating the Indian move by issuing expeditionary permits in the undemarcated zone.)

Were they under spell that they left the area above NJ9842 undemarcated and started exercising claim immediately afterwards. Or they were in honeymoon period lol

 

[VCheng]

Were they under spell that they left the area above NJ9842 undemarcated and started exercising claim immediately afterwards. Or they were in honeymoon period lol

Honeymoon or not, now they occupy all of Siachen, and we sit on the western slopes of the Saltoro Ridge. Who's laughing now? The demarcation above NJ9842, or the lack thereof, was signed by both parties.

Legally, Pakistan has not been able to show a violation of LoC by India in that area, while India handled Pakistan's violation of LoC with devastating international effect, not only forcing Pakistan to withdraw, but also to paint it as the belligerent.

 

[KhanBaba2]

Language...

Discuss politely!



nope injuns did

The word injun is very polite coming from a moderator. Anyway carry on.

 

[Salik]

Honeymoon or not, now they occupy all of Siachen, and we sit on the western slopes of the Saltoro Ridge. Who's laughing now? The demarcation above NJ9842, or the lack thereof, was signed by both parties.

Legally, Pakistan has not been able to show a violation of LoC by India in that area, while India handled Pakistan's violation of LoC with devastating international effect, not only forcing Pakistan to withdraw, but also to paint it as the belligerent.

Today we've satellites and all the modern gadgetry to find direction at any given point. Pakistan can go to the court to ask to determine 'North' from the point NJ9842. It would be a straight line.

 

[doorstar]

The word injun is very polite coming from a moderator. Anyway carry on.

read the whole post, you dumb fucktard, it is my word not hers. I was trying to counter that fake scholar ex tin can, who winds me up by his googled knowledge then becomes belligerent and abusive when corrected. therefore I am very apprehensive about replying this indus pakistan person. now when I see him posting disinformation, I send a message to the Mods, normally I get ignored by every mod but 1

anyhoo this was a verbatim copy/paste of my message (which you can clearly see noted at the end of the post).

BTW why the **** are you not countering the rest of it like the timeline of the 48 war?