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Pls divya and others stop this BS!!!

Hey Kinetic

Lets fight!!!

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lol - brotherhood is nothing -------- we are talking about being good neighbours only
 
lol - brotherhood is nothing -------- we are talking about being good neighbours only

For good neighbours they should move their car(army) out of our lawn(kashmir) first.
 
For good neighbours they should move their car(army) out of our lawn(kashmir) first.

Its not a car.. Its actually a lawn mover.

Cutting off unnecessary grass that growing.
 
America want "state of war" all the time btw both countries... just because of this jingoism situation many countries like Russia, America, Europe getting money... how.. put pressure and create problem btw both countries to get Military deals ...
 
The hadith mentioned...that no man is a believer unless he desires for his brother that which he desires for him self...is placed in the video out of context....it was about muslim brotherhood...and was meant to tell muslims at the time....so it cant be used in indo-pak context.

1) Most of Pakistan's terrirory was in Ummayad Caliphate...which included Multan on one side and spain on the other.
Traditionaly area, to the right of river indus was known as hind..and persian empires influence started from the left side of indus.
Northwestern tribal area was with khorasan. This is the biggest lie in history that whole of pakistan was part of india.

2) Pakistan is a group of geneticaly diverse people.

a)40 million pushtuns have nothing to do with india. They are majority ethinic in Khyber Pakhtun Khawa and Afghanistan.

b)Then there are the hazaras again nothing to do with india.

c)Then you have baloch around 8 million of them..an ethinic group living in western Pak...and Iran's province of sistan-baluchistan.

d) The group which indians claim is associated with them is punjabis.
Let's examine this province of punjab.

-you have millions of people in punjab from families of Sayyed, Qureshi, shah, Salara, Awans, the Khagga, the Dhund Abbasi, the Dhanyal, the Hans, the Hashmi (Nekokara), the Kahut and the Bodla,Thaheem ...their ancestors started comming to south punjab once it was part of ummayad caliphate and later abbasid caliphate....Muhammad Bin Qasim himself came up to Multan with 20000 Syrian Cavilary.

- The families whose ancestors converted to islam include jatts, rajputs , araees and few other muhajir families and they are in large numbers but not in majority as our indian friends claim.


-There were mass migrations from muslim areas of central asia and persia to muslim ruled indian subcontinent due to Mongol invasions...and from Karachi to Punjab..people with their decent could be found ranging from sindh to northern pakistan and even in kashmir......

- In Punjab tribes who claim to come from afghanistan are gardezis (from gardez) a shia tribe in south punjab, sadozai ( again from Tarnak, Kandahar, and Kabul and are decendants of ahmed shah abdali) are spread out from peshawar to lahore and kashmir with some decedants even in present day india.

- Northern Punjab...u have people like niazis (pushtun tribe but mainly in mianwali, with significant niazi diaspora in lahor, karachi, islamabad , chakwal, parts of afghanistan)...some also call these ppl "punjabi pathans" espeacialy those in punjab...some famous niazis include imran khan a famous politician.

So Pakistan is a country with 170 million people with diverse ethinic backgrounds including arab, indian, persian, afghan, central asian, and not to forget people from Kalash in gilgit baltistan who have been proven to be exact decedents of alexanders forces.....till now many of them arnt even muslim.

Ask anyone here in Canada, my indian friends...even accept it that an average Pakistani looks different as compared to an average indian...so our indian friends on this forum shouldn't keep extreme views of claiming that it was one nation...its like saying central asian muslim countries and russia are the same nation just because once they were together under soviet union....No my friend...central asian countries were , are and will be muslim and part of an independent nation.....and same case applies here....whether those pakistanis who are the decedents of people who were not native to this land or those pakistanis who are decedents of natives of india are part of the global ummah stretching from today's pakistan going upto Morocco.

Hope this clears the miscpnceptions of people who think about indo-pak brotherhood...yes we can be good neighbours but brotherhood is with people of ummah....or with sincere friends like China.

Regards
i request the moderators to please close this useless thread started without any prupose.
 
Oh ok so the video is again about denial mode for existence of Pakistan and bringing BS about India Pakistan brotherhood ?

I say please be un-phobic neighbour of ours we dont need any brotherhood at all.
 
So if it were two different country before 1947,then whats the point of this brotherhood video ??
Lol! Going by your logic, even a pakistani punjabi has nothing in common with baloch or pashto.So is it fair to scrap the idea of brotherhood??

dont you think ,pakistani punjabis which is majority in pakistan shares the same culture and same land with indian punjabis.
 
here goes peace down the toilet and flushed.... guys go back to war. I am done.

lol, As i said earlier, now just count the one in favour or against the thread..:lol:

This will not going to work on this forum cause we are in minority here,,:lol:
 
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