We(Israel) are not enemies of Pakistan and Pak should not be our enemy either - Netanyahu

[El Sidd]

pakistan doesn't recongize Israel or Armenia. Idk why they fight other people's battles. KSA, iran, GCC, Azerbaijan all recognize and trade with India even though pakistan has dispute with India, so why can't pakistan recognize Isreal and Armenia??? What does not recogizing those countries get them?

Sounds like a simple question isnt it?

Guess why?

 

[313ghazi]

"We (Israel) are not enemies of Pakistan and Pakistan should not be our enemy either," he said.

Read this -- we israelis know most of the Muslim countries are cowards and incapable of defending themselves. However, we are scared shi.t of only one country, and its Pakistan cause we have been trying for decades to destabilize it, and it is still standing. We have tried everything and we can't see to get anywhere.

And this is why we should not fight for their weasel words. We need to make our country strong.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

And they take the goyim concept very seriously bro.

We take concept of Ummah little too seriously and our own interests much less lightly.

The last verses in your post describe to some extent people of Pakistan, today.

Actually the worst enemies of Muslims and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) were Jews.

Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe “the Jews” and those who are polytheists [5:82]

Jews are badly cursed in holy Quran :

And certainly Allah made a covenant with the children of Israel, and We raised up among them Twelve Caliphs; and Allah said: Surely I am with you; if you keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and believe in My apostles and assist them and offer to Allah a goodly gift, I will most certainly cover your evil deeds, and I will most certainly cause you to enter into gardens beneath which rivers flow, but whoever disbelieves from among you after that, he indeed shall lose the right way. [5:12]

But on account of their breaking their covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard; they altered the words from their places and they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of; and you shall always discover treachery in them excepting a few of them; so pardon them and turn away; surely Allah loves those who do good (to others). [5:13]

Glory be to Him Who made His servant to go on a night from the Sacred Mosque to the remote mosque of which We have blessed the precincts, “so that We may show to him some of Our signs in Masjid al Aqsa (Palestine) ”; surely He is the Hearing, the Seeing. [17:1]

And We had made known to the children of Israel in the Book: Most certainly you will make mischief in the land twice, and most certainly you will behave insolent [17:4]

So when the promise for the first of the two came, We sent over you Our servants, of mighty prowess, so they went to and fro among the houses, and it was a promise to be accomplished. [17:5]

So when the second promise came (We raised another people) that they may bring you to grief and that they may enter the Mosque (Masjid al Aqsa) as they entered it the first time, and that they might destroy whatever they gained ascendancy over with utter destruction. [17:7]

It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, and if you again return (to disobedience) We too will return (to punishment), and We have made hell a prison for the unbelievers. (Jews and their supporters) [17:8]

 

[Indus Pakistan]

"We (Israel) are not enemies of Pakistan and Pakistan should not be our enemy either," he said.

This is well known. Could Pakistan have acquired the "bomb" if Israel had really be opposed to Pakistan. Not a fcukin chance. The Israeli's know and our establishment has by action and profile made it known Pak nukes only have one targewt on their crosshairs.

Gangadesh.

 

[HannibalBarca]

This is well known. Could Pakistan have acquired the "bomb" if Israel had really be opposed to Pakistan. Not a fcukin chance. The Israeli's know and our establishment has by action and profile made it known Pak nukes only have one targewt on their crosshairs.

Gangadesh.

Who will be the target on the crosshair if Gangadesh become Friendesh?

 

[alphapak]

I wonder why then this Nutanyahoo is getting pally with another
muslim hater Modi? Isreal is supplying Indian with weapons and
supporting insurgencies in Pak.

Pak should get pally with Hasan Nasrullah and Khaled Mashal.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Who will be the target on the crosshair if Gangadesh become Friendesh?

The chance of Gangadesh becoming friendesh is in perfect probability of mre sprouting tits and having my thing sliced off in some crazy grip to become a she-male. Namely zero in the next few decades.

And if and when it happens nukes will be kept as "strategic deterance" and to keep troblesome countries like mmmm Somalis pacified. But never will our nukes be pointed to Israel or it will be back to "2001 and bomb 'em to stone age".

supporting insurgencies in Pak.

Ball oxe. Give credible proof please.

Isreal is supplying Indian with weapons

Saudia Arabis and GCC support India far, far more then Israel ever will. India can buy weapons from anywhere. But it can only buy jobs from KSA and GCC. Which it gets aplenty ~ more then Pakistan.

 

[El Sidd]

The chance of Gangadesh becoming friendesh is in perfect probability of mre sprouting tits and having my thing sliced off in some crazy grip to become a she-male. Namely zero in the next few decades.

And if and when it happens nukes will be kept as "strategic deterance" and to keep troblesome countries like mmmm Somalis pacified. But never will our nukes be pointed to Israel or it will be back to "2001 and bomb 'em to stone age".

Lol

Goldberg says your hired. He shall call you Speer.

 

[HannibalBarca]

The chance of Gangadesh becoming friendesh is in perfect probability of mre sprouting tits and having my thing sliced off in some crazy grip to become a she-male. Namely zero in the next few decades.

And if and when it happens nukes will be kept as "strategic deterance" and to keep troblesome countries like mmmm Somalis pacified. But never will our nukes be pointed to Israel or it will be back to "2001 and bomb 'em to stone age".

But RealPolitik... forbid the words..."Never" "Impossible" "No".
And What about the saying " Friend of my Enemy is my Enemy?"

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Goldberg says your hired. He shall call you Speer.

No idea what the fcuk you on about. Frankly you rarely are able to utter much beyond one line nonsense so this is expect of you. Keep it up ..

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Actually the worst enemies of Muslims and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) were Jews.

Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe “the Jews” and those who are polytheists [5:82]

Jews are badly cursed in holy Quran :

And certainly Allah made a covenant with the children of Israel, and We raised up among them Twelve Caliphs; and Allah said: Surely I am with you; if you keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and believe in My apostles and assist them and offer to Allah a goodly gift, I will most certainly cover your evil deeds, and I will most certainly cause you to enter into gardens beneath which rivers flow, but whoever disbelieves from among you after that, he indeed shall lose the right way. [5:12]

But on account of their breaking their covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard; they changed our words from their right places and they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of; and you shall always discover treachery in them excepting a few of them; so pardon them and turn away; surely Allah loves those who do good (to others). [5:13]

Glory be to Him Who made His servant to go on a night from the Sacred Mosque (Kaaba) to the remote Mosque (Masjid al Aqsa) of which We have blessed the precincts, so that We may show to him some of Our signs in Mosque Masjid al Aqsa (Palestine); surely He is the Hearing, the Seeing. [17:1]

And We had made known to the children of Israel in the Book: Most certainly you will make mischief in the land twice, and most certainly you will behave insolent [17:4]

So when the promise for the first of the two came, We sent over you Our servants, of mighty prowess, so they went to and fro among the houses, and it was a promise to be accomplished. [17:5]

So when the second promise came (We raised another people) that they may bring you to grief and that they may enter the Mosque (Masjid al Aqsa) as they entered it the first time, and that they might destroy whatever they gained ascendancy over with utter destruction. [17:7]

It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, and if you again return (to disobedience) We too will return (to punishment), and We have made hell a prison for the unbelievers. (Jews and their supporters) [17:8]

what I dont understand then is why Hazrat Ali r.a chose to work for a Jewish employer? he worked in a farm of a Jew no? how does that reconcile? one can work for a jew, have trade with the jew , consult in legal matters and enter in legal issues as well but then be an enemy too? was the idea of a Muslim state a zero sum game? all Jews and/ or polytheists had to be eliminated? or if they paid the Jaziah tax where they exempt from that enmity?

 

[Jungibaaz]

Israel's a world away from us, we're too far and irrelevant to consider each other enemies. Why should Pakistan jeopardise its relations with Israel when its brothers won't do the same for it?

I think at some point it is best for Pakistan to build relations with Israel. And then recognise them when the time is right and when some leverage can be won. It should be done with the understanding that Pakistan cannot ever support Israeli wars or occupation, recognition of the state of Israel would have to depend on some mutual understanding not to meddle with the other country's affairs, Israel also now more than ever could do with a few more friends or at least a few more nations not completely set against it.

However, it must be said that under no circumstances should any relations with Israel undermine any existing stance we have on their possession of occupied territories. And I'm also fully aware that these are the opinions of an out of touch liberal overseas Pakistani, the masses aren't ready for any reconciliation with Israel and who could blame them for their moral outrage?

 

[blain2]

Actually the worst enemies of Muslims and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) were Jews.

Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe “the Jews” and those who are polytheists [5:82]

Jews are badly cursed in holy Quran :

And certainly Allah made a covenant with the children of Israel, and We raised up among them Twelve Caliphs; and Allah said: Surely I am with you; if you keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and believe in My apostles and assist them and offer to Allah a goodly gift, I will most certainly cover your evil deeds, and I will most certainly cause you to enter into gardens beneath which rivers flow, but whoever disbelieves from among you after that, he indeed shall lose the right way. [5:12]

But on account of their breaking their covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard; they changed our words from their right places and they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of; and you shall always discover treachery in them excepting a few of them; so pardon them and turn away; surely Allah loves those who do good (to others). [5:13]

Glory be to Him Who made His servant to go on a night from the Sacred Mosque (Kaaba) to the remote Mosque (Masjid al Aqsa) of which We have blessed the precincts, so that We may show to him some of Our signs in Mosque Masjid al Aqsa (Palestine); surely He is the Hearing, the Seeing. [17:1]

And We had made known to the children of Israel in the Book: Most certainly you will make mischief in the land twice, and most certainly you will behave insolent [17:4]

So when the promise for the first of the two came, We sent over you Our servants, of mighty prowess, so they went to and fro among the houses, and it was a promise to be accomplished. [17:5]

So when the second promise came (We raised another people) that they may bring you to grief and that they may enter the Mosque (Masjid al Aqsa) as they entered it the first time, and that they might destroy whatever they gained ascendancy over with utter destruction. [17:7]

It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, and if you again return (to disobedience) We too will return (to punishment), and We have made hell a prison for the unbelievers. (Jews and their supporters) [17:8]

I am aware of these verses and there is a context to each and every one. Despite that, our history shows that Jews co-existed peacefully with Muslims (even prior to 48 in Palestine). Also, let me point out that prior to 48, Muslim scholars did not spend as much time on these verses as they do now due to the Palestine issue.

One can be very literal and on the basis of the scripture not do anything and always be suspicious. However, Islamic history shows the Muslims to have behaved in a manner contrary to that. The dealt with the Jews, they co-habited in the same neighborhoods, had the Jews serve in government, teaching, medicine etc. alongside Muslims.

Most posts here are not condoning what the Zionists do. What I am pointing out is that Zionism and Judaism are two separate streams and if the Jews engage with Muslims on a platform away from Zionist expansionist one, then there is hope.

 

[El Sidd]

No idea what the fcuk you on about. Frankly you rarely are able to utter much beyond one line nonsense so this is expect of you. Keep it up ..

I was just admiring your eloquent speech as the next proclaimed Jewish king from the kin of David.

Israel and Pakistan both have equal importance when the chessboard spreads out each night in the shadowy world of the Establishments.

The think tank that sells greater israel also sells the greater Pakistan theory with equal number of subscribers.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

There should be no question about Israel being Pakistani enemy.