Ways of improving India-Bangladesh bilateral relations?

[idune]

Dude I forgive you for whatever you say. Because today is the day 6th october one of my forfathers died fighting in Bangladesh in 1971. When we asked him why was india fighting the war, as an armyman, he said. How can you see a genocide happening in your neighbour and stand lie idle at home. May he rest his soul in peace for the purpose he fought. He knew no politics.

Who has asked for your forgiveness. You can hide truth, sooner or later people will know that.

By the way very touchy grandpa story, so touchy that killing of Bangladeshis every other day by indian forces flies into the face of your and indian deception.

 

[eastwatch]

India, neighbours should see the bigger picture

India, neighbours should see the bigger picture
Saquib Mustafa

Bangladesh had justifiable reasons in the past not to take Indian trade proposals on face value because India broken the promises it had made on the negotiating table. For example, Bangladeshi exporters found exports were blocked by Indian authorities using newer para tariff or non-tariff barriers. It made meaningless India's giving access to Bangladesh products without duty or on concessioned duty. It was like India taking back with one hand after giving something by another.

But times are changing. And so is the Indian government. A clear sign is there of India seeing the bigger picture. It has come to realise that short-term gains from devious policies are nothing compared to the gains India stands to reap out of fair dealings with the neighbours. It would be a win-win situation for all. Both India and its neighbours will stand to gain from it. India, the biggest economy of the region, will be able to increase its output, trade for a better economic growth. India would gain by liberalising its policy with its neighbours.

The neighbours should, in that case, respond to Indian overtures. It could contribute to their economic growth as well. Continuation of the status quo would benefit neither.

I just wish this big DADA India will take off its ugly skin, and will understand the mind and ego of a Bangladeshi. Due to the nasty Indian policy, the mutual relationship has remained at low ebb for the last 38 years. The ball is in the Indian court. It should come forward to reverse the relationship to a mutually beneficial friendship.

 

[eastwatch]

http://www.newagebd.com/2009/oct/08/front.html

TRANSFER OF SENTENCED PERSONS
Dhaka for early deals with Delhi
Raheed Ejaz

Dhaka is moving fast to sign the proposed agreement on transfer of 壮entenced persons・with New Delhi which is apparently reluctant to pursue an extradition treaty following controversies.

Officials of both foreign affairs and home ministries in Dhaka are learnt to have been in agreement to go ahead with the move to sign the agreement on transfer of 壮entenced persons・which would allow convicted prisoners to move to their country of origin by choice.

Despite its earlier insistence on an extradition treaty, New Delhi is now least interested in persuading Dhaka to sign the agreement in view of hesitations on Bangladesh痴 part and also legal limitations that it might not be possible under the purview of an extradition treaty to hand over detainees like ULFA leader Anup Chetia because of their political identity, a home ministry source said referring to international laws.

However, the two ministries here have differences of opinions over the move to sign another agreement for mutual legal assistance for dealing with criminal matters. It would be redundant to sign such an agreement which had already been signed by all member countries of SAARC, said the home ministry sources.

But the foreign ministry pointed out that the regional treaty was yet to take legal effect as only three countries, including Bangladesh and India, ratified the agreement under a multilateral framework. 羨lso as we pledged to sign three agreements with India, we should go ahead with the move,・a foreign ministry source said.

The third accord, as agreed upon by Dhaka and New Delhi recently, is about combating international terrorism, organised crime and drug trafficking.

All three agreements are likely to be signed when the prime minister, Sheikh Hasina, will be visiting India sometime later this year. The two countries agreed in principle to sign the agreements during the visit by the foreign affairs minister, Dipu Moni, to New Delhi in September.

About the agreement on transfer of 壮entenced persons・ a home ministry source told New Age that the interim government had preferred a go-slow policy in view of the risks involved with such an agreement.

禅his might pave the way for push-in of Bangla-speaking people, be they Indian nationals, into Bangladesh territory. The agreement may give India an upper hand in using it for the purpose of not only push-in but also of claiming Indian citizens convicted in Bangladesh be sent back,・the source said attributing the observation to jail authorities in Dhaka.

However, the foreign minister, after her Delhi visit, made it clear that the proposed agreement on 奏ransfer or exchange of sentenced persons・would be applicable only to those who were serving prison terms on the other side of the border and had applied to return to their native country for serving the rest of the prison term.

禅he issue of handing Anup Chetia over to the Indian authorities will not come under the purview of the deal as he has already served out his prison term in Bangladesh,・she said.

 

[eastwatch]

South Asian Media Net

India, Bangladesh swap border map
Thursday, October 08,2009

SHILLONG: India and Bangladesh exchanged boundary maps to facilitate erection of fresh boundary pillars in the border areas in a speedy manner on the concluding day of the 129th Indo-Bangladesh boundary conference here Wednesday.

Special director of Meghalaya land records and survey P.W. Ingty said the main points highlighted in the resolution also included correction of names of the newly created districts when the boundary pillars are erected.

Ingty said, “There is a need to include the names of the newly created districts on the border pillars erasing the old names.”

The other specific areas to be pursued include urgent measures for the erection of new boundary pillars in place of the missing, displaced or damaged ones according to the list furnished by the deputy commissioners and border guards of both the countries.

The modalities regarding the construction of the specially designed boundary pillars, drawing up of matters related to field visit for 2009-10, exchange of old boundary maps and strips and arrangement of travel documents were also discussed.

The next boundary conference will be held in Dhaka.

Bangladesh director of land records and survey, Md Rafiqul Islam and other delegations from the neighbouring country expressed hope that both nations would ensure proper maintenance of the pillars erected along the international border.

“We want to ensure that the boundary pillars are maintained without any damage along the 423km international border in Meghalaya,” Ingty said.

Regarding the construction of the specially designed boundary pillars in the vulnerable areas where there was frequent soil erosion and landslides, Ingty said the government was planning to construct 15-feet-long boundary pillars to check the damages.

 

[UchihaCG]

I'll tell you one thing --- my opinion.
I don't consider "bangladesh" an enemy of India. Our govt is only not cooperating with bangladesh because of Terror plots being carried on India, FROM bangladesh. Assam Liberation?--We don't want another Porki to partition Assam from us and call it "Bengalistan".

Do realise that when BD was being dictated BY Pakistan and their citizens were being treated like 2nd class "pakistanis" INDIAN government had to fight a war and liberate Bangladesh =)

people here who are "proud" bangladeshis; know Bangladesh formed because of India.

The reason you cooperate with Pakistan now is ONLY because Pakistan is a Muslim dominant nation. You don't share a border with Pakistan. You have no ties with Bangladesh. Why now do you like Pakistan "more" than India?

Border Issues with BD for India is just like US has to deal with Mexico. Trust me US doesn't like it. We don't either.

26/11--turns out that some were from Pakistan...

 

[khabib]

I'll tell you one thing --- my opinion.
I don't consider "bangladesh" an enemy of India. Our govt is only not cooperating with bangladesh because of Terror plots being carried on India, FROM bangladesh. Assam Liberation?--We don't want another Porki to partition Assam from us and call it "Bengalistan".

Do realise that when BD was being dictated BY Pakistan and their citizens were being treated like 2nd class "pakistanis" INDIAN government had to fight a war and liberate Bangladesh =)

people here who are "proud" bangladeshis; know Bangladesh formed because of India.

The reason you cooperate with Pakistan now is ONLY because Pakistan is a Muslim dominant nation. You don't share a border with Pakistan. You have no ties with Bangladesh. Why now do you like Pakistan "more" than India?

Border Issues with BD for India is just like US has to deal with Mexico. Trust me US doesn't like it. We don't either.

26/11--turns out that some were from Pakistan...

Bangladesh was created by india ???? My friend wake up and read some history. We did free india from pakistan on both of the side. India should be greatful to us and not the other way around. Period.

India never had to fight a war it was just in there benefit to participate in the war. Period.

 

[Spitfighter]

Bangladesh was created by india ???? My friend wake up and read some history. We did free india from pakistan on both of the side. India should be greatful to us and not the other way around. Period.

India never had to fight a war it was just in there benefit to participate in the war. Period.

Bangladesh would have been a part of Pakistan had India not intervened.

We armed and trained the mukti bhani, where do you think you got your weapons from?

 

[TopCat]

Bangladesh would have been a part of Pakistan had India not intervened.

We armed and trained the mukti bhani, where do you think you got your weapons from?

Well you are right but India never fullfilled its responsibility after 1971. They just left Bangaldesh and never looked back. Even in 1974 famine when Bangladesh was in dire need of assistance and when USA turned its back on us, BD did approach India and the response was, "You are all your own".

So BD people did came to conclusion that India helped in 1971 not out of love but out of their own benifits.

 

[Spitfighter]

Well you are right but India never fullfilled its responsibility after 1971. They just left Bangaldesh and never looked back. Even in 1974 famine when Bangladesh was in dire need of assistance and when USA turned its back on us, BD did approach India and the response was, "You are all your own".

So BD people did came to conclusion that India helped in 1971 not out of love but out of their own benifits.

What responsibility? anyway, India has helped Bangladesh several times, relief was sent after every cyclone, AFAIK india donated something like $150 million just last year. Food, medicines, doctors, tents, you name it. What conclusions did you come to after we helped?

 

[eastwatch]

Well you are right but India never fullfilled its responsibility after 1971. They just left Bangaldesh and never looked back. Even in 1974 famine when Bangladesh was in dire need of assistance and when USA turned its back on us, BD did approach India and the response was, "You are all your own".

So BD people did came to conclusion that India helped in 1971 not out of love but out of their own benifits.

Today's India is self-sufficient in food, but it was not so during '70s. It was not the responsibility of the then poor India to support us. Self help is the best help. After all these years of perseverance we have achieved self-sufficiency in food although the population is double.

It was the duty of the then AL govt to forge good relationship with the western world, who could supply us food. But, that govt went after nationalization of private factories, neglected agriculture, propagated a so-called socialism and started enemity with the USA.

They just ruined whatever was left of the economy after the Liberation War. 300,000 people perished in 1974. Only AL policy is to be blamed for all these. We cannot blame India for not supporting us in those days. But, watch these small-minded Indians. How they put KHOTA for their participation in the 1971 war.

I wonder why the Americans do not say similar things to the europeans. It is because they are big-hearted. Indians lost only 1300 lives and we lost many lakhs in 1971. But, they say they did the heroic fighting. What a joke!

 

[toxic_pus]

I wonder why the Americans do not say similar things to the europeans. It is because they are big-hearted.

Google for the slur 'surrender monkeys', who it is referred to and why. You will find your answer.

 

[EjazR]

The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Business | Centre wraps trade gift for Hasina

New Delhi, Oct. 18: The UPA government plans to offer Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina Wajed improved trade terms during her first visit to India, scheduled next month, after coming back to power.

Also in the pipeline are proposals to upgrade Bangladesh’s rail network and a railway line from Tripura’s Agartala.

India is likely to agree to trade in garments, ceramics and tiles, footwear and sports goods. Currently, manufacturers of these products from Bangladesh cannot sell them in India.

This is part of an exercise to prune the negative list — a roster of products that India does not buy from Bangladesh — by almost half from around 400.

Though the number of banned items has been reduced to 400 from 700, traders in Bangladesh complained that the slimmer list did not include important products such as garments and footwear.

Finance ministry officials said India was attaching “a great deal of importance” to Hasina’s visit and want to try and resolve hurdles related to trade and other issues with its eastern neighbour.

The Prime Minister’s Office has given instructions to clear all pending issues concerning Bangladesh and present Hasina with concrete offers.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh wants finance minister Pranab Mukherjee to be the point of contact for India vis-à-vis Hasina. Railway minister Mamata Banerjee has also been asked to be present during Hasina’s visit as the two leaders are believed to get along well.

“The leaders of both the governments enjoy very close relations and we want to use that to leapfrog the relationship, resolving as many issues as possible,” the officials said.

“If need be, India will travel the extra mile and give some concessions unilaterally as it is the bigger market.”

Bangladesh has always maintained that bilateral trade terms are tilted heavily in favour of India. Around 27 products in which Bangladesh has a competitive advantage are banned from imports.

Exports from Bangladesh to India during 2007-08 stood at a mere $358.08 million. This is about a tenth of India’s exports of $3.375 billion to Bangladesh. Officials said the basic outline of the new trade deal was laid during Bangladesh foreign minister Dipu Moni’s visit to New Delhi last month.

Rail link

Also on agenda are plans to build the Agartala-Akhaura railway link as well as expediting assistance to modernise Bangladesh’s railway infrastructure. Proposals include modernising a wagon factory in Bangladesh.

Bangladesh has also been pushing for a visa-free regime. Indian security agencies are not willing to agree to this proposal as the facility can be misused.

The Indian government, however, is looking to relax norms for multiple-entry visas.

 

[eastwatch]

The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Business | Centre wraps trade gift for Hasina

New Delhi, Oct. 18: The UPA government plans to offer Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina Wajed improved trade terms during her first visit to India, scheduled next month, after coming back to power.

Also in the pipeline are proposals to upgrade Bangladesh’s rail network and a railway line from Tripura’s Agartala.

India is likely to agree to trade in garments, ceramics and tiles, footwear and sports goods. Currently, manufacturers of these products from Bangladesh cannot sell them in India.

This is part of an exercise to prune the negative list — a roster of products that India does not buy from Bangladesh — by almost half from around 400.

Though the number of banned items has been reduced to 400 from 700, traders in Bangladesh complained that the slimmer list did not include important products such as garments and footwear.

Finance ministry officials said India was attaching “a great deal of importance” to Hasina’s visit and want to try and resolve hurdles related to trade and other issues with its eastern neighbour.

The Prime Minister’s Office has given instructions to clear all pending issues concerning Bangladesh and present Hasina with concrete offers.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh wants finance minister Pranab Mukherjee to be the point of contact for India vis-à-vis Hasina. Railway minister Mamata Banerjee has also been asked to be present during Hasina’s visit as the two leaders are believed to get along well.

The Indian government, however, is looking to relax norms for multiple-entry visas.

Manmohon Singh's decision to include the two Bangla-speaking Union Ministers in the negotiation team is highly appreciated. But, considering Pranab Mukherjee's past self-centered attitude, I doubt he can be that helpful. And Mamata Banarjee, the Union rail minister. Is this lady any good administrator as his predecessor Lalu Prasad Yadab was?

I wish the Union Minister Jairam Ramesh to be included in the team, because he understands the pulse of BD citizens more than Pranab Mukherjee. These two Bangalis will be there to sweeten the ear of our PM, but will then write poison in the Treaties.

The Indian (read Hindu) diplomats are very good at writing duel-meaning sentences. Later, they will change the whole meaning in a way that only supports their country's interest. Accompanying BD diplomats should only eat vegetables for a few weeks to keep their heads cool before they go to the Chanakya Rajya India.

 

[EjazR]

"Chanakya Rajya India"

^^eastwatch really surprised at your post, I thought you were one of the balanced Bangladeshis' here who looked a things objectively. Already a list of 700 negative items have been reduced to 400 and other positive signs have been given out to Dipu Moni. Bangladesh has also done a lot in closing down training camps and clamping down on militants operating form Bangladesh.

Bangladesh has the Third highest Hindu population in the world after India and Nepal, does that make Bangladeshi diplomats any less nationalistic?

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Bangladesh faces tension sparked by Myanmar's reported military and refugee build-up on the border - Indian Military ready to help in case of need

India Daily - Oct. 19, 2009

Yangon had brought in tanks, artillery and warships to to push 15,000 Rohingyas refugees into Bangladesh.

The Bangladesh Rifles have been kept on high alert along the southeast frontier.Officials said over 3,000 border guards were deployed to reinforce BDR positions at Cox's Bazaar-Teknaf fronts along the 271 km.

Bangladesh is looking towards India for assistance in case of a conflict. In addition, the country is negotiating with China and requesting help from the United Nations.

Indian Army Eastern Command headquartered in Fort Williams of Kolkata is watching the situation very closely.

Indiadaily.com - Bangladesh faces tension sparked by Myanmar's reported military and refugee build-up on the border - Indian Military ready to help in case of need

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