Was Osama Bin Laden Allowed To Escape To Pakistan To Entrap Pakistan Later

[Bratva]

Mind telling me how Afghans knew about it. I asked if the Pakistani govt. admitted they told them.

During Murree peace talks. How else then ?

 

[Oldman1]

During Murree peace talks. How else then ?

Could be some other time. Not all intelligence has been revealed.

 

[Super Falcon]

A few days ago---Hilary Clinton's email information released stated that Gen Tommy Frank and Rumsfeld allowed the escape of Osama Bin Laden fro Kandhar and Tora Bora-----

The loitering armed drone over kandhar had the house on the camera screen where Osama Bin Laden--Mullah Omar and their cohorts were present and the all the concerned generals and staff in the U S military were watching the scenario. The drone loitered around for somewhere around an hour over the house---but no order was given to pull the trigger to launch the missiles to kill the terrorists and the murderer of 3000 american men and women.

The entourage ultimately came out of the house---got in their trucks and took off and the drone was called back as it was running out of fuel.

Fast forward it to a few days later. Osama Bin Laden is trapped at Tora Bora by a contingent of the u s rangers who are desperately begging for reinforcements and aerial strikes---though none materialize and Osam Bin Laden and his team climbing thru the Tora Bora passes disappears into the high mountains.

On both these occasions Gen. Tommy Franks and Mr. Rumsfeld were watching the scenario on live camera and tv broadcast along with many other generals and high ranking politicians.

There might have been other sightings of Osama later by the australians---but no one authorized the team to pull the trigger.

So---the concern occurs that---did the U S let Osama escape intentionally both the times---did this escape have ulterior motives---was this escape planned to push pakistan down in the future---was this escape planned in such a manner to manipulate the situation against pakistan---was this escape planned that if on a future date Pakistan became too demanding and out of control---the Osama card could be played by the U S to neutralize the threat being posed by pakistan in the future. The reason being that having good relations with pakistan was not on the cards of the U S----what had happened was situational and it would not be prolonged after a certain time period.

So---a prop need to be set in place to be pulled down when the time became right to cut off pakistan at its knees. The american president stated in his speeches that Osama Bin Laden's capture was not a top priority---Osama had no stake left in the power projection of al qaeda---Osama had become a nobody---we do not care about Osama---as much as the U S govt was trying to down play the position of Osama amongst the terrorist community---so many RED FLAGS were going up at the same time.

A prudent observer would have started thinking about the deceit and deception being masked behind those statements---a question should have been asked " what the hell is happening over here "----what is happening with the U S----why is the U S making these statements----what is behind this game face---what is the U S trying to do---who is the U S trying to frame---but none came up with those conerns.

That prop became Osama Bin Laden himself---and the U S became the conduit in finding a place for him thru proxy---and there is a very good possibility that Osama had no clue who was behind setting him up or who suggested the place and the location for the house that he lived in---or who pushed and nudged the team to move in Abbotabad location close to the military academy.

The agency playbook states that if you want to hide in the woods---you become a tree---on the side of a mountain---become a rock----and in a city---become a part of one of the houses----and the best place where about and location of the house---close to a police station---military installations or place close or right next to security agencies----living right under their noses and act and mould in the community you are living in.

Osama followed all those rules and guidelines right to the dot.

Knowing the pakistanis----no pakistani would help do that---. They would sell their first born for the 25 million dollars reward.

So---when a phone trace was caught by the ISI and the U S was informed by pak militray about the courier---the U S was in a quandry---what to do---. The action had to be taken---possibly the time was not ripe for the action because there was no end to the game in afghanistan.

So---after the operation ended---even though the media blasted pakistan and every conspiracy theorist blamed pakistan for setting up Osama---the govt of united states kept quiet about the issue---not saying anything----makes you wonder!


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OBL is US agent and i bet u he is in white house safe house USA playing with dirty politics and stupid EU bellieve on them where is the OBL body claiming to be super power and bush said in 2001 after 9/ those responsible must be broght to justice did OBL given chance to be in court because this all stupid shit they dump the OBL body without giving him fair chance in court of justice and claiming to be world oldest democracry

Democracy always give chance no matter how many millions he killed still deserve a chance i know terrorist is terrorist but when USA point its fingers of human rights to other nation what happen to USA in OBL case USA want what it say but we must do what we want

 

[Hussain Farooqui]

Hi,,

There are no accomplishments----. A very high suicide rate amongst the returning soldiers---a very high number of disabled soldiers----and the shame of failure in the battle field---that is the accomplishment of the U S militay in afghanistan.

About 3 decades back, common Americans were considered to be very likable people in the Muslim countries. Wherever they were posted in the Muslim countries through multi national companies or diplomatic services, the local people mostly became their friends. The feelings of the common Muslims are still very friendly for the common Americans. However, the American foreign policy is very defective and has generated enemies for the common Americans in the Muslim countries.

 

[litman]

everything is not conspiracy rather most of the things are due to our height of incompetence. what the hell he was doing few miles from the PMA in cantonment area? why the best air force on the earth with the best pilots,24/7 vigilant air defence systems completely failed to detect and intercept the helis inside pak ? that incident greatly highlighted the incompetence and cowardice of the pak armed force, intelligence and govt.

i wonder how many passing out parades at PMA osama attended during his stay so close to PMA

 

[ghazi52]

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[LeGenD]

People should read Abbottabad Commission Report. It contains lot of meaningful information that can be independently verified and people should know.

After the removal of Mullah Omer, Saddam Hussain and Qadafi, the situations in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya went to worse from bad.

Iraq:

1. Conventional victory: Destruction/Disbanding of Iraqi armed forces.
2. Capture/Occupation.
3. Regime change.
4. Saddam Hussein and his sons dead.
5. Business prospects.
6. Tackling ISIS (ongoing)

Iraq was attacked because Saddam Hussein ditched USD for Euro for its oil exports. US had to 'fix' this.

Primary and secondary objectives mostly accomplished in Iraq.

Operations against ISIS help US stay relevant in Iraq and promote its business-related interests there.

Afghanistan:

1. Conventional victory: Original Taliban forces routed from across the state.
2. Capture/Occupation.
3. Regime change.
4. Many high-profile Taliban and Al-Qaeda members dead.
5. Al-Qaeda network effectively nuetralized.
6. Tackling ISIS (ongoing)

Afghanistan was attacked to dismantle Al-Qaeda network there (Primary objective accomplished). Some secondary objectives also accomplished but Taliban problem remains.

Remains to be seen what to do about resurgent Taliban but Afghan National Government is holding its ground so far with US backing. Up to US to decide whether further commitment to Afghan War is worth it or not.

If Taliban topples current regime and recapture Kabul than American mission in Afghanistan would be in jeopardy. However, Taliban is no where close to achieve this in-spite of considerable hype in media.

It is also important to understand whether the resurgent Taliban a revamp of the original or a completely new Afghan movement under same banner.

In short, victory over Al-Qeada network but stalemate with Taliban (resurgent).

Hi,,

There are no accomplishments----. A very high suicide rate amongst the returning soldiers---a very high number of disabled soldiers----and the shame of failure in the battle field---that is the accomplishment of the U S militay in afghanistan.

To say that is to cheapen American accomplishments in those states.

Those troops commit suicide because they suffer from depression and US does not features a family-oriented culture; they do not feel welcome at home. State should do more to help such troops to re-integrate with the society.

Materialism will never give you inner peace and happiness; Spirituality will.

And modern-era wars are really destructive and costly ventures.

 

[wiseone2]

A few days ago---Hilary Clinton's email information released stated that Gen Tommy Frank and Rumsfeld allowed the escape of Osama Bin Laden fro Kandhar and Tora Bora-----

The loitering armed drone over kandhar had the house on the camera screen where Osama Bin Laden--Mullah Omar and their cohorts were present and the all the concerned generals and staff in the U S military were watching the scenario. The drone loitered around for somewhere around an hour over the house---but no order was given to pull the trigger to launch the missiles to kill the terrorists and the murderer of 3000 american men and women.

The entourage ultimately came out of the house---got in their trucks and took off and the drone was called back as it was running out of fuel.

Fast forward it to a few days later. Osama Bin Laden is trapped at Tora Bora by a contingent of the u s rangers who are desperately begging for reinforcements and aerial strikes---though none materialize and Osam Bin Laden and his team climbing thru the Tora Bora passes disappears into the high mountains.

On both these occasions Gen. Tommy Franks and Mr. Rumsfeld were watching the scenario on live camera and tv broadcast along with many other generals and high ranking politicians.

There might have been other sightings of Osama later by the australians---but no one authorized the team to pull the trigger.

So---the concern occurs that---did the U S let Osama escape intentionally both the times---did this escape have ulterior motives---was this escape planned to push pakistan down in the future---was this escape planned in such a manner to manipulate the situation against pakistan---was this escape planned that if on a future date Pakistan became too demanding and out of control---the Osama card could be played by the U S to neutralize the threat being posed by pakistan in the future. The reason being that having good relations with pakistan was not on the cards of the U S----what had happened was situational and it would not be prolonged after a certain time period.

So---a prop need to be set in place to be pulled down when the time became right to cut off pakistan at its knees. The american president stated in his speeches that Osama Bin Laden's capture was not a top priority---Osama had no stake left in the power projection of al qaeda---Osama had become a nobody---we do not care about Osama---as much as the U S govt was trying to down play the position of Osama amongst the terrorist community---so many RED FLAGS were going up at the same time.

A prudent observer would have started thinking about the deceit and deception being masked behind those statements---a question should have been asked " what the hell is happening over here "----what is happening with the U S----why is the U S making these statements----what is behind this game face---what is the U S trying to do---who is the U S trying to frame---but none came up with those conerns.

That prop became Osama Bin Laden himself---and the U S became the conduit in finding a place for him thru proxy---and there is a very good possibility that Osama had no clue who was behind setting him up or who suggested the place and the location for the house that he lived in---or who pushed and nudged the team to move in Abbotabad location close to the military academy.

The agency playbook states that if you want to hide in the woods---you become a tree---on the side of a mountain---become a rock----and in a city---become a part of one of the houses----and the best place where about and location of the house---close to a police station---military installations or place close or right next to security agencies----living right under their noses and act and mould in the community you are living in.

Osama followed all those rules and guidelines right to the dot.

Knowing the pakistanis----no pakistani would help do that---. They would sell their first born for the 25 million dollars reward.

So---when a phone trace was caught by the ISI and the U S was informed by pak militray about the courier---the U S was in a quandry---what to do---. The action had to be taken---possibly the time was not ripe for the action because there was no end to the game in afghanistan.

So---after the operation ended---even though the media blasted pakistan and every conspiracy theorist blamed pakistan for setting up Osama---the govt of united states kept quiet about the issue---not saying anything----makes you wonder!


Bush Had No Plan to Catch Bin Laden After 9/11 - by Gareth Porter

Osama Bin Laden Escaped in 2001 Because of Donald Rumsfeld: Hilary Clinton - Pakistan Latest News Online!

Complete 911 Timeline: Escape From Afghanistan

Declassified documents shed light on scramble to 'hit' bin Laden before 9/11 – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs

why is Rumsfeld considered a competent defense secretary ?

 

[MastanKhan]

why is Rumsfeld considered a competent defense secretary ?

Hi,

He was a worthless defense secretary during war---. He would not give the generals what they wanted---he would bully them into submission.

Like in case of 2nd afghan war---the general asked for more troops---Rummy said why---prove it to me why you need more---. The general replied---no problem sir---these will be enough---.

It proved later that number was not enough---. The number of troops in the first gulf war was the right number to take charge of the situation.

 

[Muhammed45]

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[lastofthepatriots]

Hi,

He was a worthless defense secretary during war---. He would not give the generals what they wanted---he would bully them into submission.

Like in case of 2nd afghan war---the general asked for more troops---Rummy said why---prove it to me why you need more---. The general replied---no problem sir---these will be enough---.

It proved later that number was not enough---. The number of troops in the first gulf war was the right number to take charge of the situation.

Rummy and dummy partnership was the best!