Was Osama Bin Laden Allowed To Escape To Pakistan To Entrap Pakistan Later

[Tiger Genie]

Hi,

But I can't start from point zero with every other poster----.

But I didn't ask you start anything. I was simply responding to the thread you started and then was surprised to read you saying you don't care about the very subject of your own thread. Anyway, may be I don't gt you. Take care

 

[MastanKhan]

But I didn't ask you start anything. I was simply responding to the thread you started and then was surprised to read you saying you don't care about the very subject of your own thread. Anyway, may be I don't gt you. Take care

Hi,
No---I did not say that---I stated that I don't care to explain to every new entrant about a subject that has been discussed to death. Thank you. Please now move ahead.

 

[Oldman1]

Why would they hide and launch offensive from Pakistan when they have nice cozy places inside Afghanistan which ironically USA abandoned so Taliban can occupy those and launch attacks from there.

U.S. retreat from Afghan valley marks recognition of blunder

US withdrawal from Korengal Valley a ‘Taliban propaganda coup’ | The Long War Journal

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/world/asia/15outpost.html?_r=0

Why would the Taliban claim Spring Offensive each year from Pakistan? Why did the leader of the Taliban died in Pakistan or Osama was killed in Pakistan? They sure are hiding there.

 

[Tiger Genie]

Hi,
No---I did not say that---I stated that I don't care to explain to every new entrant about a subject that has been discussed to death. Thank you. Please now move ahead.

huh? why are you unnecessarily picking an argument? you start a thread, then you say you don't care about it because it has been discussed to death! so why do you start that thread? Anyway, I'm done with this petty argument

 

[MastanKhan]

huh? why are you unnecessarily picking an argument? you start a thread, then you say you don't care about it because it has been discussed to death! so why do you start that thread? Anyway, I'm done with this petty argument

Hi,

I did not think that you were that stupid---but I forgot that you are an indian----.

I can start a thread and you can start a thread on a topic----but when each one entering the room wants to ask the same question---it gets old and senseless.

As you have been on the forum for close to a year now----there is a very good chance that you have come across the answer. Thank you.

 

[Bratva]

Why would the Taliban claim Spring Offensive each year from Pakistan? Why did the leader of the Taliban died in Pakistan or Osama was killed in Pakistan? They sure are hiding there.

Who says they announce such things from Pakistan or Mullah umar died in Pakistan ?

This is the problem with average american. Dont have no idea about conflict and clutching at conspiracy theories so hard that you consider them reality.

So Osama found in Pakistan somehow shows Pakistan had a hand in hiding OSama while 9/11 bombers who were under the surveillance of FBI somehow slipped passed them and CIA forgot to tell FBI that they gonna blow up twin towers. But American public take it as a intelligence failure not as a CIA was involved in 9/11 bomber. Why such double standards ?

 

[Tiger Genie]

Hi,

I did not think that you were that stupid---but I forgot that you are an indian----.

I can start a thread and you can start a thread on a topic----but when each one entering the room wants to ask the same question---it gets old and senseless.

As you have been on the forum for close to a year now----there is a very good chance that you have come across the answer. Thank you.

I said I'm done with this sort of pettiness but name calling is even lower than pettiness. Who the hell cares what you think of Indians. It juts shows your state of agitation. Shut it man!

 

[MastanKhan]

Why would the Taliban claim Spring Offensive each year from Pakistan? Why did the leader of the Taliban died in Pakistan or Osama was killed in Pakistan? They sure are hiding there.

Sir,

As an american---your ignorance is nothing new---.

You don't know why all these terrorists ended up in pakistan----because the U S military air strikes pushed them into pakistan----.

The B52's started bombing from north of afghanistan and slowly started pushing the taliban down towards pakistan's border----and the so clever and strong general incometent Tommy Franks did not have any troops stationed on the borders of eastern afghanistan to contain the terrorists in afghanistan and neuter them.

You know how high the mountains are 8---10---12---14---15 thousand feet high---some of them in afghanistan---and where the U S military had no troops to stop the incursion into afghanistan.

If the us military had been true to their cause and honest in its dealing----they would have killed Osama and Mullah Omar at kandhar when the armed drone had them in gun sights for an hour----.

So---why don't you address this issue with General Franlks and ask him---why did you let the murderers of 3000 men escape?

Why don't start with that---bring your own house in order---then we will let pakistan answer.

 

[Oldman1]

Sir,

As an american---your ignorance is nothing new---.

You don't know why all these terrorists ended up in pakistan----because the U S military air strikes pushed them into pakistan----.

The B52's started bombing from north of afghanistan and slowly started pushing the taliban down towards pakistan's border----and the so clever and strong general incometent Tommy Franks did not have any troops stationed on the borders of eastern afghanistan to contain the terrorists in afghanistan and neuter them.

You know how high the mountains are 8---10---12---14---15 thousand feet high---some of them in afghanistan---and where the U S military had no troops to stop the incursion into afghanistan.

If the us military had been true to their cause and honest in its dealing----they would have killed Osama and Mullah Omar at kandhar when the armed drone had them in gun sights for an hour----.

So---why don't you address this issue with General Franlks and ask him---why did you let the murderers of 3000 men escape?

Why don't start with that---bring your own house in order---then we will let pakistan answer.

Considering that Pakistan had thousands of supporters of the Taliban rushing to help the Taliban in Afghanistan during the early days of the invasion of Afghanistan, I think Pakistan had many things to bring in order even now after tends of thousands of Pakistani deaths. And considering there were a couple hundred special forces, not enough to stop the tide of retreating Taliban. Don't know what Pakistan was doing at the time.

Who says they announce such things from Pakistan or Mullah umar died in Pakistan ?

This is the problem with average american. Dont have no idea about conflict and clutching at conspiracy theories so hard that you consider them reality.

So Osama found in Pakistan somehow shows Pakistan had a hand in hiding OSama while 9/11 bombers who were under the surveillance of FBI somehow slipped passed them and CIA forgot to tell FBI that they gonna blow up twin towers. But American public take it as a intelligence failure not as a CIA was involved in 9/11 bomber. Why such double standards ?

The Afghan Intelligence already knew that Mullah Omar died, which the Taliban admitted and covered it up for 2 years and was in Pakistan when he died.

Funny you talk about Americans grasping conspiracies when you have Pakistanis who believe such conspiracies as well. It was Mossad who did 9/11, no Muslim would ever do 9/11, etc.

 

[Bratva]

Considering that Pakistan had thousands of supporters of the Taliban rushing to help the Taliban in Afghanistan during the early days of the invasion of Afghanistan, I think Pakistan had many things to bring in order even now after tends of thousands of Pakistani deaths. And considering there were a couple hundred special forces, not enough to stop the tide of retreating Taliban. Don't know what Pakistan was doing at the time.



The Afghan Intelligence already knew that Mullah Omar died, which the Taliban admitted and covered it up for 2 years and was in Pakistan when he died.

Funny you talk about Americans grasping conspiracies when you have Pakistanis who believe such conspiracies as well. It was Mossad who did 9/11, no Muslim would ever do 9/11, etc.

Did you bother to check the whole story of how Afghan Intelligence came to knew Mullah Umar died ? It was Pakistan who tol them in murree peace talks. They leaked the news afterwards. It is high time you start paying more attention to the news and dont skip that doesnt suit you.

Afghan Intelligence lied when they say he died in Pakistan. Did US intelligence or government confirmed He died in Pakistan ? No So there goes the credibility of such claims


So pray tell us, Didnt Mosaaad told CIA about the 9/11 attackers one month before the attack in August ? Didnt CIA reeived intel about the attack from atleast half a dozen countries ? Why did they sit upon the intel and didnt passed it to FBI ?

Once you can answer these questions, the same facts and logics applied on OBL presence in Pakistan as well.

 

[Oldman1]

Did you bother to check the whole story of how Afghan Intelligence came to knew Mullah Umar died ? It was Pakistan who tol them in murree peace talks. They leaked the news afterwards. It is high time you start paying more attention to the news and dont skip that doesnt suit you.

Afghan Intelligence lied when they say he died in Pakistan. Did US intelligence or government confirmed He died in Pakistan ? No So there goes the credibility of such claims


So pray tell us, Didnt Mosaaad told CIA about the 9/11 attackers one month before the attack in August ? Didnt CIA reeived intel about the attack from atleast half a dozen countries ? Why did they sit upon the intel and didnt passed it to FBI ?

Once you can answer these questions, the same facts and logics applied on OBL presence in Pakistan as well.

And how would Pakistan know about his death and keep it a secret from the Afghan Intelligence until peace talks?

Why would Mossad warn the CIA about the attacks when Mossad had people celebrating in New York?

 

[Bratva]

And how would Pakistan know about his death and keep it a secret from the Afghan Intelligence until peace talks?

Why would Mossad warn the CIA about the attacks when Mossad had people celebrating in New York?

Because Pakistan only came to know about his death during Murree peace-talks themselves when the negotiators from Afghan taliban told them and Pakistan thought they can trust the afghanis and they wouldn't leak the news. But as expected what you can expect from them.

You could have known all these things if you were following news emerging from Pakistan at that time instead of watching FOX news.


You should ask american newspapers and Mossad themselves reported and told CIA about this. Perhaps you can ask your own intel through your senator and congressman.

 

[Oldman1]

Because Pakistan only came to know about his death during Murree peace-talks themselves when the negotiators from Afghan taliban told them and Pakistan thought they can trust the afghanis and they wouldn't leak the news. But as expected what you can expect from them.

You could have known all these things if you were following news emerging from Pakistan at that time instead of watching FOX news.


You should ask american newspapers and Mossad themselves reported and told CIA about this. Perhaps you can ask your own intel through your senator and congressman.

Did the Pakistani govt. admitted that they told the Afghan Intelligence?

Mullah Omar did not die in Pakistan, defence minister tells NA

Defence Minister Khawaja Asif clarified on Friday Afghan Taliban supremo Mullah Omar neither died nor was buried in Pakistan.

“I can confirm that Mullah Omar neither died nor was buried in Pakistan and his sons’ statements are on record to support this,” the defence minister said, while addressing the National Assembly.

“Whether he died now or two years ago is another controversy which we do not wish to be a part of,” Asif added.

The defence minister refuted Afghan spy agency’s claims that the Afghan Taliban supremo died in a hospital in Karachi, “He was neither in Karachi nor in Quetta,” he said.

Read: Taliban leader Mullah Omar died in a Karachi hospital in 2013, says Afghanistan

Further, Asif said Pakistan is only playing the role of a mediator in talks between Afghan Taliban and the government in Kabul.

“We do not accept that we have a control on Taliban, we are only playing a role of mediator,” the defence minister said. Asif further said that US and Chinese officials are participating in the Pakistan-brokered peace talks as observers.

“We do not want to get involved in any rivalry in Taliban leadership,” he said, adding Pakistan only wants the group’s leadership to continue the reconciliation process.

 

[Bratva]

Did the Pakistani govt. admitted that they told the Afghan Intelligence?

Mullah Omar did not die in Pakistan, defence minister tells NA

Defence Minister Khawaja Asif clarified on Friday Afghan Taliban supremo Mullah Omar neither died nor was buried in Pakistan.

“I can confirm that Mullah Omar neither died nor was buried in Pakistan and his sons’ statements are on record to support this,” the defence minister said, while addressing the National Assembly.

“Whether he died now or two years ago is another controversy which we do not wish to be a part of,” Asif added.

The defence minister refuted Afghan spy agency’s claims that the Afghan Taliban supremo died in a hospital in Karachi, “He was neither in Karachi nor in Quetta,” he said.

Read: Taliban leader Mullah Omar died in a Karachi hospital in 2013, says Afghanistan

Further, Asif said Pakistan is only playing the role of a mediator in talks between Afghan Taliban and the government in Kabul.

“We do not accept that we have a control on Taliban, we are only playing a role of mediator,” the defence minister said. Asif further said that US and Chinese officials are participating in the Pakistan-brokered peace talks as observers.

“We do not want to get involved in any rivalry in Taliban leadership,” he said, adding Pakistan only wants the group’s leadership to continue the reconciliation process.

Mind telling how Afghan intelligence came to know about his death only during murree peace talks then ?

 

[Oldman1]

Mind telling how Afghan intelligence came to know about his death only during murree peace talks then ?

Mind telling me how Afghans knew about it. I asked if the Pakistani govt. admitted they told them.