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Was India loss to England deliberate?

India lost on purpose that day and good for them I would have wished the same if Pakistan were in their position.
Its just sad to read our media, papers, conspiracy theorist and the general public blaming India for Pakistan losing its spot in the semi finals. Are we people blind, dumb or just simply stupid to not accept the fact that our cricket team was put into this position not by India, Raw or CIA but due to the internal team politics, lack of hard work and overall bad team performance.

Whether it be the deteriorating law and order condition, rampant inflation, currency depreciation, setbacks on international forums and regional conflicts we always have a habit to blame others for our own mistakes.
May Allah help us all.
 
is mein koi shak nahi. hamara dil naram ho sakta hai per in ki fitrat nahi badal sakti. chalo bhai goray kay baray mein dair aye drust aye.
bhai agar yeh is agar magar ker kay semi mein haraingay to behtar hai abhi izzat bani hoi hai bahtir hai ghar a jain.
 
is mein koi shak nahi. hamara dil naram ho sakta hai per in ki fitrat nahi badal sakti. chalo bhai goray kay baray mein dair aye drust aye.
bhai agar yeh is agar magar ker kay semi mein haraingay to behtar hai abhi izzat bani hoi hai bahtir hai ghar a jain.
yehi tu hamari shadeed ghalati hai jisko filfor saheeh karne ki zaroorat hai... kiyon hum itni jaldi bhool jatay hain? agar aisa jari raha tu yaad rakho hai jurm-e-zaeefi ki saza marg-e-mafajat.
 
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Majority predicted India will lose ....
 
I think if you want to win world cup then you should not be scared of any team and any top 4 could be dangerous on their days and if you have looked at result so far then India defeated Australia , Australia defeated England and Pakistan/SL defeated England and England defeated India and even low rank team Afghanistan troubled India and Pakistan. Losing intentionally is not good for spirit of game


if Pakistan had good runrate then they would be in top 4 by beating Bangladesh irrespective of results of England Vs Nz

If New Zealand beat England then we qualify after beating Bangladesh

If England beat New Zealand with big margin and we also beat Bangladesh with reasonable margin then we can still qualify because then points will be equal to New Zealand and position of semi finalists will be decide on net run rate

I couldn’t agree more. Steamrolling through the opposition, no matter who it is, is the best way to win a WC. It has its own charm. I’m against the concept of “strategic play”.
Nevertheless, as I said previously, this is all speculation. India was perhaps simply outclassed by England yesterday.
 
yehi tu hamari shadeed ghalati hai jisko filfor saheeh karne ki zaroorat hai... kiyon hum itni jaldi bhool jatay hain? agar aisa jari raha tu yaad rakho hai jurm-e-zaeefi ki saza marg-e-mafajat.
Is mein koi shak nahi kay dusri taraf bharati stablishment zooro shoor say nafrat ki aag lagaye hovay hai. Or humari itni nakami kay hum dar guzar mein ghadaron ko bhi maaf kertay chalay ja rahay hain. Hamaray musalman afghani jin ki sab say ziyada khatir hum nay ki apnay ghar mein mehman rakha vo bhi bharat kay chungal mein hain. Zahir hai humari ghalti hai nah hum dusron ko dushman ka kala mu dikhatay hain nah in kay iraday apni qoam kay agay fash kertay hain. Akhir mein ruswa bhi hum or zalim bhi hum hi kehalway..
Kam az kam apnay media ko to lagam do jis chapar ka dil kerta hai do qomi nazriyay ko ghalat keh daita hai. Janat or dozokh jaisi haqeeqat per ghamdi jaisay molvi fiqr kay fraib mein dal ker qoam ko deen say bad dil kertay hain fouj jo qurbaniyan day usay deshat gardi jaisay ailzamat dal diya jatay hain or in libral jin ka nara "mera jism meri marzi" ko koi roknay wala nahi.
Gunah har kesi say hota hai agar gunah ka ahsas khatam ho to moot insan ki waqia ho jati hai.
Allah hamaray haal per raham karay agay anay walay or fitnay kam hain jo aik jahliyat bhi hum per musalat hai..dushman ki to aab hava bhi darti hai Pak sar zameen ki sooch say bhi per kab tak chor ko saza nahi di jayegi or ghareeb pisay ga insaf kay tarazo mein.
 
But if you look at the way it works, engineering group outcomes depends on deliberate LOSS, and maintenance of nrr. India can work out a way to avoid Aus but they have NO control over which of eng or nz they would face. India can force a 2nd or 3rd place finish, thus avoiding team no. 1, but they have no influence on who they will face as that outcome depends on other games. Whoever wins nz eng game is the team India will face. So India cannot engineer avoidance of England, only avoidance of Aus in this case.

Again let me preface by saying that everything I’m saying here is under the assumption and hypothetical scenario that the England loss was engineered.

Assuming India wins both it’s last fixtures, there’s two scenarios. In both cases, The aim would be to avoid facing Aus in the semis:

1. NZ beats Eng. Eng falls out. Pak or BD go through. Have to play Aus. Assuming Aus wins, and India wins its semi, we face Aus

2. Eng beats NZ. We face Eng or NZ based on NRR. either of those teams face Aus, hopefully beat them, making the two teams the easier of the opponent to face in the final. England in the final will be under a lot of pressure being the home team and never having won a WC.

There’s also a third scenario where India loses in the semi and all this speculation goes down the dump lol

Basically the loss allows for another team to eliminate Aus.
 
Again let me preface by saying that everything I’m saying here is under the assumption and hypothetical scenario that the England loss was engineered.

Assuming India wins both it’s last fixtures, there’s two scenarios. In both cases, The aim would be to avoid facing Aus in the semis:

1. NZ beats Eng. Eng falls out. Pak or BD go through. Have to play Aus. Assuming Aus wins, and India wins its semi, we face Aus

2. Eng beats NZ. We face Eng or NZ based on NRR. either of those teams face Aus, hopefully beat them, making the two teams the easier of the opponent to face in the final. England in the final will be under a lot of pressure being the home team and never having won a WC.

There’s also a third scenario where India loses in the semi and all this speculation goes down the dump lol

Basically the loss allows for another team to eliminate Aus.
Basically the india is bitchslaped by England....
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Sure, England bitch slapped India..
But why are you as a Pakistani cheering?
Pakistan had no part to play in this. And if at all what is a slap to India is a boot up Pakistan’s *** proverbialy from a qualifying standpoint.

Also, I hope you know how the movie Lagaan ends lol
 

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