VN - Party leader arrives in Beijing for China visit

[Beast]

I think your government surely realize this.
The problem is that Vietnam is too small to resist China..
If we keep peace like current situation for 20 years, Vietnam will become a part of Chinese economy.
The mutual economy, trading and communication will merge the two countries`s economy and people.
No way to resist that..

Human will only realized truth when they get hurts or feel the real pain.


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[hans]

Problem is that most member here are of no importance..
Nobody can make government decision..
So no matter you persuade them or not, it does not make any difference..
These Vietnam member are pretty tough here.
But they cannot change the situation that Vietnam is more and more relying on China.
We care only the facts. We don`t care what they say..
In fact if China-Vietnam relationship improves, these guys will surely turn their attitude in short time..

Human will only realized truth when they get hurts or feel the real pain.
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[mrfly911]

Problem is that most member here are of no importance..
Nobody can make government decision..
So no matter you persuade them or not, it does not make any difference..
These Vietnam member are pretty tough here.
But they cannot change the situation that Vietnam is more and more relying on China.
We care only the facts. We don`t care what they say..
In fact if China-Vietnam relationship improves, these guys will surely turn their attitude in short time..

D@mn right again!

 

[Viet]

Spoken like a true Southerner

bro, no matter southerner and northerner. actually I have nothing against a closer tie with China. But they shall ease their arrogance and aggressive attitude. sometimes I think bullying vietnam is their national pastime. ok, nuff said, I found some nice pics on xinhua. interesting, a group of young vietnamese in the great hall. girls in ao dai.

That's where you are wrong. There is still lots of room of improvement in area of sino vietnam r/s in terms of foreign policy, military and cooperation.

Of cos economy cooperation is the most important aspect. But if Vietnam foreign policy can complement with China one, would it be better to strengthen our stance in foreign policy?
Just like Cambodia and slowly Thailand is going to join this camp.

yes and no. come on, we both know, from china perspective, vietnam just plays a minor role. if you look at chinese media, vietnam is rarely mentioned. most of chinese even don´t know where vietnam is. this visit may improve the atmosphere a bit, but it won´t change much the broader picture.

 

[hans]

The girl in blue is pretty beautiful

The problem is how to solve the politic issue like territory issue, which may endanger the rapid developing economy relationship. Nobody want to make compromise...
Despite these politic issue, Chinese people usually hold no negative attitude towards Vietnam.
You know there are so many provinces in China, most places are also rarely mentioned..

bro, no matter southerner and northerner. actually I have nothing against a closer tie with China. But they shall ease their arrogance and aggressive attitude. sometimes I think bullying vietnam is their national pastime. ok, nuff said, I found some nice pics on xinhua. interesting, a group of young vietnamese in the great hall. girls in ao dai.

yes and no. come on, we both know, from china perspective, vietnam just plays a minor role. if you look at chinese media, vietnam is rarely mentioned. most of chinese even don´t know where vietnam is. this visit may improve the atmosphere a bit, but it won´t change much the broader picture.

 

[Viet]

The girl in blue is pretty beautiful

The problem is how to solve the politic issue like territory issue, which may endanger the rapid developing economy relationship. Nobody want to make compromise...
Despite these politic issue, Chinese people usually hold no negative attitude towards Vietnam.
You know there are so many provinces in China, most places are also rarely mentioned..

the girl is probably a student in china.

as for the dispute, vietnam makes an official declaration to the UN, that we want negotiations for a fundamental and long-term solution. as long as an agreement is not reached, maintaining stability on the basis of the status quo, and refrain from the use of force or threat of force.

china? I missed that you say such a thing.

so the people of vietnam assume you can resort to violent means or war to change the status quo, get what you want.

 

[Jlaw]

It shows you are still pretty naive..
You can hardly control a country as you wish.
If you want to control countries like Vietnam, you will face hate rather than friendship.
What China can do is influence these countries, control its economy through trading, limit its military capability..
When all countries need to rely on China on economy, why do you need to worry..
They will surely cooperate..

"Give me control of a nations money supply and I care not who makes the laws" - Mayer Amschel Rothschild

You have a lot to learn.

 

[mrfly911]

The girl in blue is pretty beautiful

Nice Vietnamese girl!

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

Spoken like a true Southerner

He is right since nearly 80% of Vietnamese have favourable views of the US, while a similar number of Vietnamese have unfavourable views of china.
I am northerner, and I have a similar view of @Viet.

 

[mrfly911]

He is right since nearly 80% of Vietnamese have favourable views of the US, while a similar number of Vietnamese have unfavourable views of china.
I am northerner, and I have a similar view of @Viet.

It doesn't matter what we (normal people) view.

 

[Jlaw]

The girl in blue is pretty beautiful

The problem is how to solve the politic issue like territory issue, which may endanger the rapid developing economy relationship. Nobody want to make compromise...
Despite these politic issue, Chinese people usually hold no negative attitude towards Vietnam.
You know there are so many provinces in China, most places are also rarely mentioned..

the problem is Vietnam is a cancer to China and a threat to smaller countries like Cambodia, Laos and Thailand. As for territorial issue, Vietnam have stolen the islands from China and we will get it back.

Maybe you are too young and lack world knowldege, but sometimes you should learn to think with your head and not your other "head"

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

So what percent of Vietnamese does China have to kill to get such high ratings? Only a pathetic slave worships those who have murdered their people in the millions.

Maybe you do not like that, but the truth is the truth...

 

[hans]

I have seen so many naive guys like you from both China and Vietnam
Except threat to use military force, argue in this forum, can you do something real??
Vietnam is not a real threat to China.
China can easily limit Vietnam`s capability and influence.

the problem is Vietnam is a cancer to China and a threat to smaller countries like Cambodia, Laos and Thailand. As for territorial issue, Vietnam have stolen the islands from China and we will get it back.

Maybe you are too young and lack world knowldege, but sometimes you should learn to think with your head and not your other "head"

Right..
Also Chinese member here do not matter..
You see the political leaders are more realistic..
Fight each other makes nobody good.
That is why there will leader visits even in the worst condition

It doesn't matter what we (normal people) view.

Not clear what is your point
China is not taking any claimed island from Vietnam, even we have sufficient military power to do so.
China also want to talk.
Only problem is that nobody want to compromise.

the girl is probably a student in china.
as for the dispute, vietnam makes an official declaration to the UN, that we want negotiations for a fundamental and long-term solution. as long as an agreement is not reached, maintaining stability on the basis of the status quo, and refrain from the use of force or threat of force.

china? I missed that you say such a thing.

so the people of vietnam assume you can resort to violent means or war to change the status quo, get what you want.

 

[hans]

This kind of view makes no sense..
China is too close while US is too far for Vietnam.
No matter how much you hate China, Vietnam economy is now more and more relying on China..
So if we are in peace for 20 years, Vietnam will merge into China`s economy...

He is right since nearly 80% of Vietnamese have favourable views of the US, while a similar number of Vietnamese have unfavourable views of china.
I am northerner, and I have a similar view of @Viet.

China will not invade Vietnam by military force..
We will invade with economy, money and high technical stuff..
This is something more difficult to resist than military invasion..

Maybe because of this, the war between the two countries usually end by the majority of the invaders were killed. Vietnam is not a good land for the invaders, as you know...

 

[empirefighter]

no, I am a man of pro-US faction. I said on this forum once: vietnam future lies in the western world: america and europe. not in china.

I totally agree with you,so I give you a "Thanks". I am very tired of your leaders coming to our capital to say comrades and friendship,everyone knows it is a lie,we have been cheated by your snake leaders many times in history,normal relation and national interest is the only way we should follow ,the same with North Korea. I donot support making peaceful deal in SCS with vietnam which is a toally untrust country,but I support making cooperations with Maylasia and philippine .It is much better for us to compete with vietnam ,we are big country ,this little confict doesnot affect us at all,the benefit is the conflict can force our leaders to build a more and more powerful navy and coast guard fleet.By the way,as I said on this forum many times:we donot fear USA ,she cannot make us kneel down by force especially in Asia