VN - Party leader arrives in Beijing for China visit

[rcrmj]

crawling back for help, these things are insignificant and untrustworthy

 

[Soryu]

VCP is not friendly with us at all,look at their books, just teach their students the war with us,never mention the help by us. Look at their national heroes,almost all of them are the general fighting us in history ,so I am TOALLY tired of that. Let them choose USA, it is not bad.We actually donot need VCP,we need normal NATIONAL INTERSET.
I understand many chineses have natural special feelings with Korea,Vietnam even Japan people,we think we are the closest race and civilization .BUT the truth is :the national interest is the only thing we should care.

Where're you get those info !?
But hey, in our history, most of invasion was from the North, so we speak about it, anything wrong !?
We defeat mighty China and kich their *** out from our land ... so we're proud and tell to our kid about it, anything wrong !?

At least in China, we can see ur VCP now meet internal conflict between Northern Chairman and Southern P.M, two gangs wanna take each down.

Only in your delusion ...

 

[hans]

Seems VCP is in danger now...

Not really, I see more people who want to overthrow VCP in the North Vietnam, Southern people focus more in economy issues.
Stupid words about lesson, they're just want a lesson ...

When China take over and control these islands in 1945, Vietnam is still not independent..
It is Vietnam who take these lands in 1960-1970s..
China would like a talk between VN and CN only. Yet Vietnam prefer to make this issue international..

“I prefer peace, but if trouble must come, let it be in my time that my children may know peace.”
Vietnam claimed both Hoang Sa and Truong Sa. China took both of these islands.
Vietnam want to discuss this issue with China and international. But China reject it.

 

[Soryu]

Seems VCP is in danger now...

No, If I come to guess, so those people number will not over 10% population.
I think not many people really think about change political system, though they want a better life ...

 

[hans]

This limit means no capability to challenge China`s power in the SEA region..
You see most SEA countries are willing to cooperate with China for economy benefit..
Vietnam cannot use its military power to invade other countries as it wish.
Vietnam economy is more and more rely on Chinese economy.
it is already a kind of limitation.
We don`t want to full control Vietnam which means we need to share our wealth with poor Vietnam people..

Well, we will still keep our cooperate as that good ... but want to limit us !?
No, we know your trick ...
The naive is you, beast, as ever ... you don't know exactly what and why those riot happened.
Your head is always full of this "vietnamese always has hatred toward China" like many your idiot fellow ...
Me too, my father is Northerner, and my mother is southerner ...

 

[cnleio]

Only in your delusion ...

The political struggle is more complex than ordinary ppl thought ... there's not only coincidence !

In South Vietnam, U.S warships visited Southern gang's city

In North Vietnam, VCP leader with senior members of Northern gang visited China BeiJing

When Vietnamese ppl focus on Spratly Islands dispute with China, Chinese not fool we r more interest in VCP internal conflicts ... we had seen many news photos of Vietnam P.M met American VIPs ... When did u see VCP chairman with American in Vietnam media ?

If U.S of A selected ur P.M as friend in Vietnam (or P.M seek for U.S helps), China with VCP leader at one side (or Chairman seek for China supports). This is the signal to each gang in Vietnam, both (Northern & Southern) have the foreign ally.

 

[hans]

I would say thought could change..
In case VCP is separated into a few parties and people may really think about kick VCP away..
In China, people`s life is increasing very fast. So CCP is still quite stable..

No, If I come to guess, so those people number will not over 10% population.
I think not many people really think about change political system, though they want a better life ...

 

[Soryu]

When China take over and control these islands in 1945, Vietnam is still not independent..
It is Vietnam who take these lands in 1960-1970s..
China would like a talk between VN and CN only. Yet Vietnam prefer to make this issue international..

You should study more, it's till under our administration at that time, and PRC took a part of Paracel in 1956, fully invasion in 1974, and attacked us again in 1988.

Paracel and Spratly were never belong to China. Chinese leader draw 9-10-11-dash-line map because they want control all sea-lines in SCS.

When Vietnamese ppl focus on Spratly Islands dispute with China, Chinese not fool we r more interest in VCP internal conflicts ... we had seen many news photos of Vietnam P.M met American VIPs ... When did u see VCP chairman with American in Vietnam media ?

If U.S of A selected ur P.M as friend in Vietnam, China with VCP leader at one side.

Our President came to visit USA, and now, Mr. Trong , we will seek more counter balance from USA ...

 

[mrfly911]

When China take over and control these islands in 1945, Vietnam is still not independent..
It is Vietnam who take these lands in 1960-1970s..
China would like a talk between VN and CN only. Yet Vietnam prefer to make this issue international..

Hmn! This is the problem.
We were teached that these islands belong to VN from Nguyen dynastic and then French colonialism. Then China attacked us in 1974 to stole these islands.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

The political struggle is more complex than ordinary ppl thought ... there's not only coincidence !

In South Vietnam, U.S warships visited Southern gang's city
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In North Vietnam, VCP leader with senior members of Northern gang visited China BeiJing
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When Vietnamese ppl focus on Spratly Islands dispute with China, Chinese not fool we r more interest in VCP internal conflicts ... we had seen many news photos of Vietnam P.M met American VIPs ... When did u see VCP chairman with American in Vietnam media ?

If U.S of A selected ur P.M as friend in Vietnam (or P.M seek for U.S helps), China with VCP leader at one side (or Chairman seek for China supports). This is the signal to each gang in Vietnam, both (Northern & Southern) have the foreign ally.

The pro China faction in Vietnam is going to win. It is the matter of China having more monies and clout compared to deadbeat USA.

 

[cnleio]

Our President came to visit USA, and now, Mr. Trong , we will seek more counter balance from USA ...

Let me remind u here, it's just 1st time ! More is ur P.M, not VCP leader.

Another question i wanna ask a Vietnamese ... as u think, which side right now take most power of Vietnam military force, VCP chairman or P.M ? Who can easily get support from the Army?

 

[hans]

In ancient time, the land border is usually not so clear as we do today.
No to mention the islands in the deep sea. there are no clear belonging of these lands.
In French colonialism, nobody really cares some small island in the SCS
And in WWII Japanese defeat french and take over these islands,
When WWII is over, China take these islands and claim them.
In the next 20 years no surrounding countries have real interests or claim in these bare islands, simply because no value.
But when nature resource like gas and oil is found in SCS in 1960s, the surrounding countries start to take these island.
And China is too weak to control these islands in 1960-1970s
So when China start to take back these islands, China take the Xisha but very few island in Nansha..

Hmn! This is the problem.
We were teached that these islands belong to VN from Nguyen dynastic and then French colonialism. Then China attacked us in 1974 to stole these islands.

 

[Viva_Viet]

The pro China faction in Vietnam is going to win. It is the matter of China having more monies and clout compared to deadbeat USA.

VN is always on Rusia's side. US and CN dont want VN to be their enemy, so they come and offer us some good benefit.

So, we contain CN to make USA happy, meanwhile, we also keep a good communist relationship to make communist CN happy. Every one win.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

VN is always on Rusia's side. US and CN dont want VN to be their enemy, so they come and offer us some good benefit.

So, we contain CN to make USA happy, meanwhile, we also keep a good communist relationship to make communist CN happy. Every one win.

This is some sort of a anormally due to a weak China in the past 150 years. Generally the Sino Vietnamese model is China and Vietnam may quarrel. When Vietnam got shit, China will help.

Sino-French War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The failure to protect Vietnam on French invasion led to the relinquish of China as the big brother of Vietnam. That is when Vietnam started to move away. But you guys will be back.

 

[Viva_Viet]

This is some sort of a anormally due to a weak China in the past 150 years. Generally the Sino Vietnamese model is China and Vietnam may quarrel. When Vietnam got shit, China will help.

Sino-French War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The failure to protect Vietnam on French invasion led to the relinquish of China as the big brother of Vietnam. That is when Vietnam started to move away. But you guys will be s mov

We has move to Russia's side since 1979 and still on his side now. We only move back to CN when Russia collapse .

Let me remind u here, it's just 1st time ! More is ur P.M, not VCP leader.

Another question i wanna ask a Vietnamese ... as u think, which side right now take most power of Vietnam military force, VCP chairman or P.M ? Who can easily get support from the Army?

No one, VN always keep the power in balance, all leaders have equal power.