VN - Party leader arrives in Beijing for China visit

[William Hung]

I saw one thing China could ace against USA. USA now is absorbed in ruinous financial capitalism, leaving her old, weak and poor to die and infrastructure to rot. I doubt USA will stay together as one piece in the next 100 years.

100 years is too long bro lol. I won't be alive at that stage.

Chinese culture on the other hand is socialist inherently, and right now she is trying hard to build a universal healthcare system. She has been a unitary state for more than 2000 years.

I still have my doubts if culture similarity is enough to unite Asia. I mean if that is the case, VietNam and Japan should be on much friendlier terms with China right now.

I think a lot of socialist values like universal healthcare and welfare state, etc. are quite generic. Most western countries actually has them. I think the necessary worldview needs to be unique and not generic like "Let's get rich and prosper together." And it has to somehow override the frictions and differences that each potential allies has with each other. If it is generic, it would be like me approaching you and say, "Hey, wanna be my business partner? My vision is this: Make money together". Your respond would be "Duh! off course becoming business partner implies trying to make money together! But what's so unique about your proposal and vision? why should I join you rather than just carrying on with my normal life as usual?"

I would say now USA still have the upper hand. Who knows what happen in 2050?

I think the US has the upper hand in that it inherited the same world order and alliances from the Cold War. And China is doing a good job in presenting itself as a new threatening power (evil Reds) in its neighbourhood.

The PRC members need to open their eyes and not put all the blames on the Philippines, VietNam, etc.

 

[Jlaw]

I have seen so many naive guys like you from both China and Vietnam
Except threat to use military force, argue in this forum, can you do something real??
Vietnam is not a real threat to China.
China can easily limit Vietnam`s capability and influence.



Right..
Also Chinese member here do not matter..
You see the political leaders are more realistic..
Fight each other makes nobody good.
That is why there will leader visits even in the worst condition



Not clear what is your point
China is not taking any claimed island from Vietnam, even we have sufficient military power to do so.
China also want to talk.
Only problem is that nobody want to compromise.

You say this in nearly all your posts "you don't matter" . Why are you posting your opinion than?

I see a piece of news that VCP general secretary paid a visit to China with about one third of VCP top officials, and many analysts think VCP is seeking help from CCP due to increasing pressure from pro-US and pro-capitalism "Southern clique", is this possible in your light?


We'd better not mix NorthVN and SouthVN up. VCP should be supported, we need VCP rather than US puppets.

Would it not be in the best interest of China to help US divide up Vietnam?

 

[mrfly911]

On April 7, Mr Trong and Mr Xin met Vietnamese and Chinese youngsters during the 15th friendly gathering in Beijing. I read their speeches (translated to Vietnamese). Really impressed by Mr Xin speech. Short, clear, easy to understand, poet...
The full version is Chinese: 习近平出席第十五届中越青年友好会见活动时的讲话（全文）_滚动_新闻_中国政府网
I love this part:
对你们来说，现在，青春是用来奋斗的；将来，青春是用来回忆的。
(To all of you, at this moment, youth uses for struggle. In the future, youth will use for remembrance.)
I bet there is a poet which related to this sentence.

 

[Edison Chen]

Vietnam people are self illusioned how much they can be independence from China. Just look at the 2010 chart, and they know who is their MOST important partner.

Not USA.

And Vietnam trade a lot not just with China, but with Chopstick land like HK, Singapore, S Korea and Japan.

No matter how much you hate China, you need to come to the reality.

Also I am a good man. I advise PRC to be gentle with these guys. They are not our enemy but our ally.

We are fighting a civilization war and we have other competitor, which is white man.

Trade means very little. As you know the British had very close trade relations with Germans before ww1. Actually, trade could be the main reason that leads to the war, since the weaker side has huge trade deficit although the total volume is big.