VN - Party leader arrives in Beijing for China visit

[LittleFish]

Yes, I think so.
VCP leader = soft power
VN Prime Minister = real power

I have some questions about VCP.
Is VCP so powerful in VN like CCP in China?
Is your PM the extreme right-wing?
What do you Viets think about VCP?

 

[mrfly911]

Not clear what is your point
China is not taking any claimed island from Vietnam, even we have sufficient military power to do so.
China also want to talk.
Only problem is that nobody want to compromise.

“I prefer peace, but if trouble must come, let it be in my time that my children may know peace.”
Vietnam claimed both Hoang Sa and Truong Sa. China took both of these islands.
Vietnam want to discuss this issue with China and international. But China reject it.

 

[Soryu]

I heard southern part of Vietnam are more pro-US. Right?
Also VCP is not welcomed there..

Why teach a lesson?
If we keep trading with Vietnam, then Vietnam will naturally become a part of the Chinese economy
Vietnam will much rely on the trading with China,
Vietnam`s growth lies in close distance to China yet lower labor cost

Not really, I see more people who want to overthrow VCP in the North Vietnam, Southern people focus more in economy issues.

Stupid words about lesson, they're just want a lesson ...

 

[mrfly911]

I have some questions about VCP.
Is VCP so powerful in VN like CCP in China?
- Absolutely right! VCP is the only allowed party in VN. All leaders or officers must be a VCP member.
Is your PM the extreme right-wing?
- No. But I think he has a modern point of view.
What do you Viets think about VCP?
- Not dare to talk

 

[empirefighter]

I have some questions about VCP.
Is VCP so powerful in VN like CCP in China?
Is your PM the extreme right-wing?
What do you Viets think about VCP?

The communist regime of Vietnam will collasp someday,because of the diverse power sources,the diverse group interest demand,the existing influece of South Vietnam and so on. And I am glad to see that happen. When the communist regime collapses,the "traditional comrade friendship" will no longer exist between us,our leads will just consider the national interes when facing the new regime. If the Vietnam communist party collapses,is this bad for us? I donot think so.
1.nowdays,the regime is not friendly with us ,in the future ,the new regime will be not friendly with us too, so it is no difference.
2.If the new regime is pro-USA,it will lose the friendship with Russia gradually,if the new regime is pro-Russia and it is ok for us.
3.If the new regime introduces the USA military force in Vietnam ,as for us, this military base is not more dangerous than the bases in SK and Japan beacause all the bases around us are coverd by our firepower,and the most important thing is,Vietnam connects us by land ,that means we can easily protect our national interests in Viernam by army.
In conlusion:bless VCP collasps soon,bless CCP exists a long time.

 

[LittleFish]

I see a piece of news that VCP general secretary paid a visit to China with about one third of VCP top officials, and many analysts think VCP is seeking help from CCP due to increasing pressure from pro-US and pro-capitalism "Southern clique", is this possible in your light?

The communist regime of Vietnam will collasp someday,because of the diverse power sources,the diverse group interest demand,the existing influece of South Vietnam and so on. And I am glad to see that happen. When the communist regime collapses,the "tradition comrade friendship" will no longer exist,our leads will just consider the national interes when facing the new regime. If the Vietnam communist party collapses,is this bad for us? I donot think so, nowdays,the regime is not friendly with us ,in the future ,the new regime will be not friendly with us too, so it is no difference.If the new regime is pro-USA,it will lose the friendship with Russia gradually,if the new regime is pro-Russia and it is ok for us. If the new regime introduces the USA military force in Vietnam ,as for us, this military base is not more dangerous than the bases in SK and Japan beacause all the bases around us are coverd by our firepower,and the most important thing is,Vietnam connects us by land ,that means we can easily protect our national interests in Viernam by army.In conlusion:bless VCP collasps soon,bless CCP exists a long time.

We'd better not mix NorthVN and SouthVN up. VCP should be supported, we need VCP rather than US puppets.

 

[Soryu]

It shows you are still pretty naive..
You can hardly control a country as you wish.
If you want to control countries like Vietnam, you will face hate rather than friendship.
What China can do is influence these countries, control its economy through trading, limit its military capability..
When all countries need to rely on China on economy, why do you need to worry..
They will surely cooperate..

Well, we will still keep our cooperate as that good ... but want to limit us !?
No, we know your trick ...

The naive is you. They cooperate in economy, yes but their foreign policy is still pretty negative and that maybe a stumbling block in hindering many other possible cooperation.

Taiwan is one fine example. During CSB era, the naive Taiwanese are trick by DPP thinking they can have a healthy economy with China while still seeking a pro US foreign policy which probably even achieving independence with the American protection. China react strongly and Taiwan economy suffer or stagnant under CSB. Taiwanese not happy and switch alliance to KMT who promised repair ties and build a healthy economy and less pro US policy. US military presence are strictly not allow. All this sweep in favour towards CCP.

Precisely, vietnam needs to go thru what Taiwan experience and I guess the anti Chinese riot did remind the vietnamese top leadership some lesson. Of cos, more can be exert to cooperate in area of SCS and foreign policy.

The naive is you, beast, as ever ... you don't know exactly what and why those riot happened.
Your head is always full of this "vietnamese always has hatred toward China" like many your idiot fellow ...

I'm southerner, but I can speak Vietnamese with Hanoi dialect.

Me too, my father is Northerner, and my mother is southerner ...

 

[empirefighter]

We'd better not mix NorthVN and SouthVN up. VCP should be supported, we need VCP rather than US puppets.

VCP is not friendly with us at all,look at their books, just teach their students the war with us,never mention the help by us. Look at their national heroes,almost all of them are the general fighting us in history ,so I am TOALLY tired of that. Let them choose USA, it is not bad.We actually donot need VCP,we need normal NATIONAL INTERSET.
I understand many chineses have natural special feelings with Korea,Vietnam even Japan people,we think we are the closest race and civilization .BUT the truth is :the national interest is the only thing we should care.

 

[cnleio]

The truth is, leader of VCP seek for China CCP's supports to solve their internal "Color Revolution" problem inside the Party... North gang (Chairman) v.s South gang(P.M) in Vietnam .

 

[mrfly911]

I see a piece of news that VCP general secretary paid a visit to China with about one third of VCP top officials, and many analysts think VCP is seeking help from CCP due to increasing pressure from pro-US and pro-capitalism "Southern clique", is this possible in your light?

I don't know but I was shocked.
VCP leader, Minister of Defence, Minister of Police, Minister of Foreign,...

 

[Lux de Veritas]

The truth is, leader of VCP seek for China CCP's supports to solve their internal "Color Revolution" problem inside the Party... North gang (Chairman) v.s South gang(P.M) inside VCP.

The future of Vietnam as in all East Asia countries is in China. USA will only sell out yellow people. Look at how USA sell out Greece today.

Greece now wakes up and go to Othodox Russia. Russia is likely to treat Greece well.

 

[cnleio]

China begged VC to visit before his trip to US. Ha ha.

LOL ... U.S never see VCP as the friend, no doubt ... for Uncle SAM, they not need next China CCP.

At least in China, we can see ur VCP now meet internal conflict between Northern Chairman and Southern P.M, two gangs wanna take each down.

Of course China CCP will support VCP Chairman, support North Vietnam as we did in Vietnam Independence War & Vietnam War.

 

[Soryu]

I have some questions about VCP.
Is VCP so powerful in VN like CCP in China?
Is your PM the extreme right-wing?
What do you Viets think about VCP?

It will be great if VCP can wipe out all corruption ...

 

[mrfly911]

It will be great if VCP can wipe out all corruption ...

Do you believe it?

 

[Lux de Veritas]

USA political scientist Samuel P. Huntington put you Viet guys with China. Huntington is not honest enough. Japan, Tibet is left out.