Viper Infantry Fighting Vehicle.

[Zhukov]

Or through economic collapse

Which is also a wet dream because despite of the worst economic conditions, Terrorism, Massive Trade Deficits etc, Pakistan Nominal GDP have grown at an average rate of 3.6% for the last 10 Years. Comparing it to other similar countries and criticizing economic performance of our country is one thing and is totally valid as we have performed poorly compared to India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh,.
But the term "Economic Collapse" is laughable. Too much consumption of Times of India and Express Tribune is bad for health.

 

[Khaqan Humayun]

@Arsalan check this beast. Our local HMMWV. Joint venture btw HIT and South Korea.

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Is it really a Joint venture btw HIT and South Korea???
I haven't seen any news about this in Army.

So HIT Vehicle (JV) which is shown at IDEAS 2018 is KIA K151 of South Korea

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VEHICLE TYPE
Light tactical vehicle
MANUFACTURER
Kia Motors Corporation
CREW
1 + 3
GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT
5.7t (standard wheelbase); 7t (long wheelbase)
MAXIMUM SPEED
130km/h
RANGE
600km

The Kia Light Tactical Vehicle (KLTV) is a third-generation vehicle developed by Kia Motors Corporation, a company based in South Korea. The 4×4 vehicle is offered for South Korean Armed Forces and export customers. The KLTV is also known as KM1.

The KLTV was displayed for the first time at International Defence Exhibition and Conference (IDEX) 2015 held in Abu Dhabi, UAE. Serial production of the vehicle began in 2016.

The versatile vehicle is suitable for a range of missions, including transportation of troops, patrolling, command & control , reconnaissance, and logistics operations.

KLTV design and features
ALTV ACMAT Light Tactical Vahicle Torpedo France
ALTV (Acmat Light Tactical Vehicle) Torpedo from ACMAT is a 4×4 lightweight multi-role vehicle intended for use by armed forces.

The modular base chassis of the Kia light tactical vehicle can be configured into a number of mission variants, including multi-purpose vehicle (MPV), armoured reconnaissance vehicle (ARV), command vehicle, communication equipment vehicle, and shop van. The robust design delivers high-mobility and survivability.

Two wheelbase versions of the vehicle are offered; namely standard and stretched. The standard armoured command version accommodates four personnel, whereas the long wheelbase variant offers enough space to carry up to eight troops and specialised equipment.

The KLTV with standard wheelbase has a gross vehicle weight (GVW) of 5.7t, whereas the stretched variant has a GVW of 7t. A two-piece windscreen made of ballistic glass is fitted to the forward cabin of the vehicle.

The vehicle is also optionally fitted with a winch powered by an on-board battery. Its high-intensity frame allows the winch to haul objects with wire rope or rescue a vehicle in an open field. The on-board air-conditioning system reduces crew fatigue and ensures driver’s visibility by defrosting the windshield when required.

Kia LTV armament and self-protection
The KLTV can be fitted with roof-mounted weaponry such as a machine gun or an automatic grenade launcher. Gun ports on either side of the hull allow the aiming and firing of individual weapons carried by the occupants.

The bullet-resistant body made of composite materials is fitted with metal sheets and bulletproof glass on windows. The vehicle offers protection against small arms fire and artillery shell splinters, while the floor is anticipated to offer protection against blasts.

A matte coating covers the hull and parts of the KLTV to prevent vehicle corrosion, while camouflaging the vehicle from direct and indirect observations by hostile forces.

KLTV engine
The light tactical vehicle is powered by a high-efficiency, high-horsepower turbo diesel engine, which develops a power output of 225hp. The engine is coupled to an eight-speed automatic transmission that prevents shut down.

A direct engine hybrid generator is another additional option for the KLTV. This supplies power to the on-board equipment. All the electrical parts of the vehicle are protected against water.

Mobility of Kia light tactical vehicle
The all-wheel drive capability improves tracking and hauling power, steering capability and stability, as well as off-road driving power. The independent suspension of the vehicle enhances the ride quality, whereas the four-channel, anti-lock braking system (ABS) ensures stability. The high-ground clearance allows the vehicle to overcome vertical obstacles.

A central tire inflation system (CTIS) is fitted to the light tactical vehicle, which regulates the pressure of tyres from within the cabin for smooth operations on hard and soft terrains.

The run-flat tyre inserts allow the vehicle to travel up to 48km at a speed of 48km/h in the event of tyre damage. The vehicle can carry troops and cargo in cross-country and desert conditions with temperatures ranging between 32°C and 43°C.

A depth of up to 76cm can be handled by the vehicle, as can a side slope of 40% and a gradient of 60%. It has a maximum speed of 130km/h and can attain a range of 600km

 

[PAR 5]

Can anyone confirm if this IFV is for Pakistan Army or is it for export only? And if for Pakistan Army, have they initiated its test and trials yet?

 

[Tamiyah]

Can anyone confirm if this IFV is for Pakistan Army or is it for export only? And if for Pakistan Army, have they initiated its test and trials yet?

I think its for both. If it was for army then they would not show it that much detail. its probably for middle east customers.

 

[Keysersoze]

I like that angling on the frontal armor, adds up to double the actual armor on the Front as it looks like 45 degrees on both the upper and lower plate. But sides are without any armor and will easily get penetrated by AP munitions...

wou'dve been better if they could add some spaced armor to give it more of a fighting chance against ATGM's and AT weapons.

Dude if you are using IFV's or APC's in an environment where tanks are taking shots at then you are using them wrong. AP munitions designed for tanks will always be able to cut through this. The sides have clearly been up-armoured you can see the additional plate on the side.

Yes I agree, seems PA has no current plan for acquiring next gen. Anti-Tank Guided Missiles. If you see the turret of VIPER vehicle it is exposed, unprotected, even anti material sniper fire might penetrate it.
Off Topic, On the other hand PA has ordered AH-1Zs, hellfire missiles, ATAK A-129 (missile ordered not known) it could a reason as they are getting hellfires.

Thats why you use remote turrets.....

Besides this upgrade has added 3 tons of weight from a vanilla m113 there is only so much additional weight you can add.

Been pondering over the aluminium armor of M-113 which catches fire. PA M-113's used as APC do not make direct contact with enemy being used ab battle taxis. But the IFV is supposed to make contact.

Wonder how good would be aluminium armor of a M-113 derivative used as IFV and carrying troops ?

Thats why you add missiles and a big gun. You suppress the enemy and then the troops jump out. They have clearly up armoured the vehicle (though not by a massive amount). The lack of spall liner is a bit of a problem though.

 

[War Thunder]

Dude if you are using IFV's or APC's in an environment where tanks are taking shots at then you are using them wrong. AP munitions designed for tanks will always be able to cut through this. The sides have clearly been up-armoured you can see the additional plate on the side.

Dude, no matter how you use this, you will always end up being a recipient of anti tank/armor munitions. And every bit of armor helps in there.

The sides might be up armored but at that angling, they are nothing but a paper sheet waiting to be hit and penetrated.

 

[Keysersoze]

Dude, no matter how you use this, you will always end up being a recipient of anti tank/armor munitions. And every bit of armor helps in there.

The sides might be up armored but at that angling, they are nothing but a paper sheet waiting to be hit and penetrated.

The only way to have enough armour for that is to have a tank. A IFV or APC's best defence is speed.Weighing down said vehicles with tons of armour would be counter productive. Thats why slat armour is being used more to up armour APC's against RPG's

Sloping armour is not needed as its effectiveness is not the same as it was during WW2. long rod penetrators are not affected by it hence composites and perforated armours are used. Also it would add width to an already wide vehicle.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Can anyone confirm if this IFV is for Pakistan Army or is it for export only? And if for Pakistan Army, have they initiated its test and trials yet?

I was told it was competing for the Army's tracked IFV requirement. But other vendors are making moves too (with offsets, counter-trade, FDI, etc as sweeteners).

 

[PAR 5]

I was told it was competing for the Army's tracked IFV requirement. But other vendors are making moves too (with offsets, counter-trade, FDI, etc as sweeteners).

I've checked. The VIPER IFV mock up is made by a private company in collaboration with HIT. Systems installed on it are all mockups and not real. Though a good concept but at the end of the day mainly for export market and not for PA.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

At IDEAS 2018 Pakistan introduced its first ever home grown Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV) called Viper.

The IFV is equipped with an ATGM mount with a provision for 2X ATGMs. Its unmanned, remote controlled turret features a 30mm main gun and 12.7mm Remote Controlled Weapon System (RCWS). It is well protected by Sloped armour and carries a state of art sensors & Optical suite.

The C4ISR enabled IFV is developed by Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT).

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These are 9M113 Konkurs (AT-6 'Spandrel')

 

[ziaulislam]

Very impressive and I like the namre 'Viper' as well. I am entirely against large scale investment in conventional forces in Pakistan. The reason is very simple. However much we spend India will spend more and we will always face overwhelming odds. Simply put India is nearly 7 times more populous so it can field more men, more guns, more tanks, more artillery, more aircraft then we ever will.

The only real defence we have right now that holds India behind the Radclife Line is our nukes which effectively equalize the conventional imbalance. Meaning our shield now is the nukes. The only role conventional forces play is in limited tactical situations and giving us the time until nukes are used. By increasing our conventional capability we merely extend the time to nuke activation. 24 hours, 7 days, 4 weeks or 3 months etc until our conventional forces are overwhelmed and we fall back on nukes. I personally think the conventional forces should just be enough to hold back India for 7 days. Anything in excess of that we cannot afford. Make our low nuclear threshold known to Indians.

Going back to the IFV I think this is area where Pakistan needs to invest in. Tracked IFVs, 8/6 wheeled IFVs and heavily armed scout vehicles. These should be made in large numbers say in excess of 4,000. Half go to the army and wheeled IFVs go to Rangers/FC. We really need to beef up internal security. All regions of Pakistan with issues like Balochistan, Sindh, South Punjab and FATA should be heavily patrolled by GC/Rangers. Helicopters to reinforce the patroling should also be bought. Pakistan needs to shift focus from borders to internal threats. The state should have iron fist visible everywhere.

And vehicles like Viper or wheeled derivatives would be the 'ironfist'.

Though the only exception to that will be a strong air force
As we saw in feb

 

[Badshakhan]

Proud of Pakistan

 

[Philip the Arab]

These are 9M113 Konkurs (AT-6 'Spandrel')

Outdated, useless ATGM imo Pakistan should partner with Ukraine to license produce Skif ATGMs for using on all armored vehicles in service while using the HJ-12 for infantry. 800/1200mm penetration and 5 km range would allow reliable destruction of any vehicle in Indian service.
@Bilal Khan (Quwa)

 

[Sulman Badshah]

Outdated, useless ATGM imo Pakistan should partner with Ukraine to license produce Skif ATGMs for using on all armored vehicles in service while using the HJ-12 for infantry. 800/1200mm penetration and 5 km range would allow reliable destruction of any vehicle in Indian service.
@Bilal Khan (Quwa)

Konkurs were quite effective against Syrian T72 .. and on the other hand Indian Armed forces host alot of T752 and T90's

Moreover , it can be replaced with more modern system whenever needed

 

[Neurath]

@Arsalan check this beast. Our local HMMWV. Joint venture btw HIT and South Korea.

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Can you please share more information regarding this?