Villagers shot dead in NE India

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jana u can call me adu

Realy what will u do with the X

 

[Adux]

Realy what will u do with the X

Well my lady, lets just say the lesser we clad ourseleves with,more we can know about each other

Adu

 

[Bull]

Well my lady, lets just say the lesser we clad ourseleves with,more we can know about each other

Adu

naughty naughty

 

[Bull]

INDIA IS A SECULAR COUNTRY bigest joke every one in india and in world,know.Bright examples of indian secularisam,is gujrat where thousend of muslims killed under the protection of police and responsible of all this still in govt.thousends of sikhs killed in india,in 1984 by the order of politicians of congress know they are in govt.discremination of minorities,low caste is every day joke of high cost with protection of secular govt. of india

How many muslims get mowed down in Pakistan a year?

 

[alamgir]

How many muslims get mowed down in Pakistan a year?

much much lesser then india

 

[Adux]

naughty naughty

what are malu's known for

 

[Adux]

much much lesser then india

So for Arguments sake,

If we bring down the so called non-existant muslim death tolls to your levels, you guys will get off our backs.

I would say more indians are killed by the muslims in India with all the varnasi, delhi, srinagar bombings etc etc


Adu

 

[Bull]

much much lesser then india

Give me a fig how many get mowed doen last year in Pakistan.

 

[alamgir]

So for Arguments sake,

If we bring down the so called non-existant muslim death tolls to your levels, you guys will get off our backs.

I would say more indians are killed by the muslims in India with all the varnasi, delhi, srinagar bombings etc etc


Adu

only in kashmir 90,000 muslims killed by indian occupation forces which is much higher then total non muslims killed by muslims after partition

 

[alamgir]

Muslims are treated as the same as me, OBC :Other backward Classes, I am according to the caste system, a fisherman. Let me again take your position, Brahmins constitute a micro minority, do you think votebank politics will lead to their upliftment. Do you even know the conditions of Brahmins, esp in kerala. they are pathetic, government took all their money and land, most of them converted to christainity, so they could get a fair chance.that is who kerala has such a large christian population. Muslims have a habit isolating themselves, get over that and the world is good place. I studied in glasgow, Where i have seen muslim community trying to live in a shell, Dont tell me about racisim, i am brown *** myself, The most racist people to me where arabs, north indians and pakistani's.
Have u heard of Mujra dancing, and prostitute women of karachi and lahore.

I am in very well off position in my place, cuz my family took the oppertunites at the right time. world is not perfect, live with it. get over muslim victimization syndrome, they have the same chance as my family, it is their failure they dont take it. And oh, the richest person in my state is a muslim, His name PEEVESS abdul wahab. Does that mean all muslims are rich, NO

south indian are original inhabitants of subcontinent they were not hindu,s. how they converted to hinduisam.to know about the origon of south indian i suggest you to read about INDUS VALLEY CIVILIZATION, honestly tell me north indian like south indian

 

[alamgir]

You dont understand the law, It means u cant convert for economic means. During the 1962 war, my mother's family gave all their jewels for the war effort, in 1964 there was a drought and famine in kerala. We had christain missionaries coming giving money and food if they converted to christainity. My mother's family refused, she has told me there were times when she really wanted to accept it, esp when neighbours converted and got food/water.
It is to stop this government put the bill, India is a poor country and there are people who take advantage of that to further their own agenda. It doesnt mean u cant convert, it means u have to convince why the government why you are converting and nobody is offering you money for it.
[qoute,]
most of lowcaste converted to buddisam not chistainity and budd in india not to much rich to offer money read this artical to understand why dalite are converting to buddisam 5.45pm

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'Untouchables' undergo mass conversion to Buddhism


Randeep Ramesh in Hyderabad, India
Friday October 13, 2006
The Guardian


A Buddhist monk shaves the head of a man converting him to Buddhism. Photograph: Amit Bhargava/AP



In the small one-room house on the edge of the rice bowl of India, Narasimha Cherlaguda explains why he is preparing to be reborn as a Buddhist.
As an untouchable, the 25-year-old is at the bottom of Hinduism's hereditary hierarchy. "The [local] priest tells me if I was a good dalit in this life, then in my next life I can be born into a better part of society. [I say] why wait?"


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Like tens of thousands of other untouchables - or dalits - across India today, Mr Cherlaguda will be ritually converted to Buddhism to escape his low-caste status. The landless labourer points to a picture of Hanuman, the Hindu monkey god, on his wall and says it will soon be gone and replaced by an image of the Buddha.
He will not be alone. More than 70 people from the village of Kumarriguda, 40 miles outside Hyderabad, the capital of southern India's Andhra Pradesh state, will leave the Hindu religion. There are plans for a Buddhist temple and money set aside to hire a Buddhist priest - probably the first in the area for 1,500 years - to conduct prayers as well as marriage and death rites.

"We want to be equal to upper castes. Being a dalit in Hindu society means this is not possible. Being Buddhist means we will be separate but equal," said D Anjaneyulu, a local dalit politician who says he first considering switching religion when he was physically stopped by local Brahmins from raising the Indian flag because of his caste.

"Untouchability" was abolished under India's constitution in 1950 but the practice remains a degrading part of everyday life in Indian villages.

Dalits in rural areas are often bullied and assigned menial jobs such as manual scavengers, removing of human waste and dead animals, leather workers, street sweepers and cobblers. Reports surface in newspapers of untouchables being barred from temples.

The sometimes intense violence has led to a migration to the cities, where caste is easier to submerge. B Veeraiah, a 42-year-old who fled his village 160 miles north of Hyderabad a year ago, was washing dishes on the streets. He ran away after being tied up with his mother and clubbed for a night by an upper caste neighbour for allowing his goat to wander. "My mother died of her injuries. I ran away to the city. Here I am safe."

The mass conversion of dalits takes place on the anniversary of one of India's most controversial religious events. Sixty years ago BR Ambedkar, the first untouchable to hold high office in India and the man who wrote India's constitution, renounced Hinduism as a creed in the grip of casteism and converted - with more than 100,000 of his followers - to Buddhism.

Today almost double that figure will embrace a new religion and repeat the 22 oaths Ambedkar mouthed. They include never worshipping Hindu gods and goddesses, never inviting a Brahmin for rituals and never drinking alcohol.

In Hyderabad the first person to convert will be KRS Murthy, 70, who was the first dalit recruited into the state's civil service in 1959. Like African Americans in the US who refuse to use their "slave" names, many in the lowest castes have spurned their obvious caste identifiers. Mr Murthy says he long ago dropped his caste name - Kondru - but this has not stop people sensing for signals to his origins.

"I have hidden my roots. But often on trains people ask about my background, what my father did, where I am from. When I tell them my caste they stop asking questions. In fact they stop talking to me. Buddhism means I can simply say I am not a Hindu. I do not have a caste."

Many dalit thinkers say that what is happening in India is a "religious rebellion" against a hierarchy that condemns them to a life of suffering. "Look we make up 150m people of India. "Yet where are the Dalit news anchors, the entrepreneurs, the professors? We are neither seen nor heard. Changing religion makes us visible," says Chanrabhan Prasad, a dalit writer.

The Hindu right has become increasingly wary of Buddhist conversions, seeing its call for equality as exerting a powerful pull on the lowest castes. The Bharatiya Janata party (BJP) government in the western state of Gujarat controversially amended an anti-conversion law to classify Buddhism and Jainism as branches of the Hindu religion, denying them status as unique religions.

 

[alamgir]

ADUX i read a article in PDF about sultan aurangzab alamgir which i will post in theology please read it

 

[joey]

ah i'm REALLY bored to read all but I'll reply to alamgir bro's Post about dalit and how certain politicians exploits peoples,

1> Dalits are not any caste as per any religion, they are the cusprits of infamous brits divide ands rule policy.
2> Dirty vote bank politics, we all know how dirty subcontinent politicians are.................................................this vote bank politics has long interpretation.
3> Some money loving priests, communists taking the role to divide and rule, even they are goin far to "allow illegal" immigration for vote bank from Bdesh.
4> Dalits are welcome in every educated circle, and SC/ST peoples gets govt benefits like you will never believe.starting from 50% marks reservation to 50% clearance for IAS.virtually they are guaranteed job provided they study.

hopefully things will change slowly, activism changes things.

PS : This post was bout dalit scene and is not related to their conversation or anything.

 

[Adux]

south indian are original inhabitants of subcontinent they were not hindu,s. how they converted to hinduisam.to know about the origon of south indian i suggest you to read about INDUS VALLEY CIVILIZATION, honestly tell me north indian like south indian

So if South Indians were the Real Inhabitants, and they were converted into Hinduisim, So who were the real hindu's. Which section of people did they convert into. I dont care wether south indian likes north indian or vice versa. I have my life to live, I cant be bothered about other people's dogma
I didnt understand ur question, can you rephrase?

In India you cant convert into Hinduisim, at the same time you can convert into any other religion. Hinduism is treated as a culture and a way of life here.

Do u know how many people have died cuz of terrorism, Where did you get your source of 90,000 and how do you know it is less than the terrorist attacks.

 

[Adux]

ADUX i read a article in PDF about sultan aurangzab alamgir which i will post in theology please read it

I will definitly read it. I prefer neutral opinion, Indians have written good things about Akber and baber, Tipu sultan, why would they write only about Aurnagazeb. But give me a neutral and reported view, i will read it

And about PDF, that hate mongering, narrow minded, mass murdering idiotic website which makes a complete mockery of the nation of pakistan, its people and its principle's..., i dont want anything to do with it. I am sorry.

Adu