Vietnam War

[NeutralCitizen]

 

[Developereo]

"I Ain't Got No Quarrel With The VietCong... No VietCong Ever Called Me Nigger" — Muhammad Ali, 1966

 

[NeutralCitizen]

1-3 million Vietcong killed vs 58,300 americans killed.

 

[SpiritHS]

war is cruel. consequences of the war is long, millions people of Vietnamese offs to life.
but for vietnamese, independence, freedom, target we are willing to trade. look as Chinese enters the pipe made ​​of copper, general of france emerges from the the bunker, American helicopter swings in the panic to escape. you will understand that we will do all to the independence and freedom.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

war is cruel. consequences of the war is long, millions people of Vietnamese offs to life.
but for vietnamese, independence, freedom, target we are willing to trade. look as Chinese enters the pipe made ​​of copper, general of france emerges from the the bunker, American helicopter swings in the panic to escape. you will understand that we will do all to the independence and freedom.

Vietnam is coming back within USA influence.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Anyone like to add feel free to.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

US lost up to 58,300 Troops however killed 1-3 million Vietcong.

What do you want to emphasize?

We did not only fight against American Army,
Worse yet, it includes the war between Vietnamese in North Vietnam and South Vietnam.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

Anyone like to add feel free to.

You posted very many photos. I have only a photo, enough to show the results of the war.

Anyhow, thanks for good historical photos.

Now, we has already forgiven American.

 

[Tshering22]

Vietnam is coming back within USA influence.

I doubt it is called influence, mate. Vietnam is not someone who takes submission easily. You of all people must know.

 

[Tshering22]

US lost up to 58,300 Troops however killed 1-3 million Vietcong.

What has happened in the past, cannot be changed. But you must know that you fought a Vietnam that was divided, weaker than ever and had different ideologies. They not only fought US but also thrashed China. For a country that is barely the size of a single US state, lacked technical prowess in 60s and 70s; it is a very big achievement. Akin to what the US would be in if it was facing 2 USSRs and a today's China simultaneously.

US suffered far more casualties than the official figure which is used as a cloak to cover the terrible episode. Independent analysts (even western non-Americans) estimate it at close to 80,000 plus. For a superpower, That is a big loss considering the technology gap Viet Cong (not even a nation but a guerilla warfare group) had.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

What do you want to emphasize?

We did not only fight against American Army,
Worse yet, it includes the war between Vietnamese in North Vietnam and South Vietnam.

Untrue Vietcong did fight against the USA, our goals were to keep South Vietnam stable and uprunning.

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You posted very many photos. I have only a photo, enough to show the results of the war.

Anyhow, thanks for good historical photos.

Now, we has already forgiven American.

Forgive Americans ? Vietnam War Changed USA like no war did.

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I doubt it is called influence, mate. Vietnam is not someone who takes submission easily. You of all people must know.

With China Growing, We will see that.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

What has happened in the past, cannot be changed. But you must know that you fought a Vietnam that was divided, weaker than ever and had different ideologies. They not only fought US but also thrashed China. For a country that is barely the size of a single US state, lacked technical prowess in 60s and 70s; it is a very big achievement. Akin to what the US would be in if it was facing 2 USSRs and a today's China simultaneously.

US suffered far more casualties than the official figure which is used as a cloak to cover the terrible episode. Independent analysts (even western non-Americans) estimate it at close to 80,000 plus. For a superpower, That is a big loss considering the technology gap Viet Cong (not even a nation but a guerilla warfare group) had.

North Vietnam was getting massive amounts of Aid from the USSR and China that exceeded that of what the USA gave to the afghans cut the Aid and the damage would have been much worse. we lost due to many reasons Viet Cong aimed to take over the South while we were there to keep the south stable, For example our politicians tied our soldiers hands to their backs and most of the soldiers were draftees that did not want to fight or motivated, not to mention the anti war movement. if we sent Ground troops to North Vietnam and our troops freely allowed then it would have been different. further more supplies and money to south vietnam was cut.

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You posted very many photos. I have only a photo, enough to show the results of the war.

Anyhow, thanks for good historical photos.

Now, we has already forgiven American.

How long did it take to forgive us ? Vietnamese did not forgive china but thats a story for another time, maybe if more people were like Vietnamese.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

North Vietnam was getting massive amounts of Aid from the USSR and China that exceeded that of what the USA gave to the afghans cut the Aid and the damage would have been much worse. we lost due to many reasons Viet Cong aimed to take over the South while we were there to keep the south stable, For example our politicians tied our soldiers hands to their backs and most of the soldiers were draftees that did not want to fight or motivated, not to mention the anti war movement. if we sent Ground troops to North Vietnam and our troops freely allowed then it would have been different. further more supplies and money to south vietnam was cut.

You're right partly, we couldn't win if the US Government were allowed using all their power to fight Vietnam.

We are also thank to the Soviet and China, who supported us so much in the war, although they also have their own purpose.

Moreover, our strengths are the legitimacy.

 

[Chogy]

We are also thank to the Soviet and China, who supported us so much in the war, although they also have their own purpose.

I'm sure you realize this, but USSR and China support wasn't because they loved the people of Vietnam. It was a political war of proxy. They appreciated the fact that Vietnamese were weakening the USA and doing all the hard work of the war.

ROE was a joke. Pilots could see SAM sites being built, but could not attack them in the construction phase, because "there might be Soviet advisers there on site." And they could see huge cargo ships streaming in to Hanoi and these likewise could not be touched.

Operation linebacker brought the North back to the peace talks with a truly brutal bombardment. Until Linebacker, the air war was a piecemeal, half-hearted effort.

In the end, the whole thing was badly bungled and a tragedy for all concerned. I am glad Vietnam and the USA are having closer trade relations and such. Recently, a U.S. warship visited Vietnam, and the warship's captain was a U.S. man of Vietnamese descent... his parents had come to the USA during the war.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

I want to keep this thread updated.