You are fcking pathetic, you know that? Well, let shiet hit the fan once more time
THE WORD. MY FRIEND. THE WORD. All I see are "disappearance" cases, not "dead", "die", "dying".... in all of the sources you posted. Before, I intentionally avoided sources that talk about "disappearance of dissidents" in Indonesia as i felt they were too vague. Could they simply hide somewhere? Is there a chance they might be held in Indonesian prisons? But if you claim that "disappearance" automatically mean death then I'm more than willing to toss you 1,001 articles that talk about such cases in Indonesia. I take that such people all dead then?
For the fcking last time, get it memorize: Human right situation in Vietanm is WAY better than Indonesia. Name me 1 "dissident" from Vietnam that ACTUALLY wind up DEAD and I would agree with with whatever bullshiet you speak of next. "Disappearance" is not going to cut it. But if you implies that "disappearance" equal death then I could come to the conclusion that FAR MORE people in Indonesia ended up in a body bag than I anticipated, excluding the number of people that already got shot to dead on the street.
Btw, which half of people in Papua love you guys? The half that contains Indonesian that come from the central government and their Papuan lackeys or the half with ordinary Papuan that simply with for independence? You have annexed the place for more than 3 decades, such a division indicate poor efforts in reconciling the region. That mean SUCK A-S-S performance from the TNI again.
"A joint operation between police & military in the highland of papua managed to save 25 researchers, teachers & medic. And freed villages of around a thousand people from the OPM"
Uhm..That's it? A rescue operation? That is the only proof that prove your military is of quality? VPA officers would laugh at that as it nothing near the complex of operations they mounted in Cambodia and Thailand borders.
You see: Field performance is judged through effectiveness. In counter terrorist, your success is decided by how you effectively neutralize all terrorists. To simplify things for you, imagine that you house if full with rats. You could kill hundreds of them but more are popping up every day. Want to prove that you good at killing rats? Then you must kill them all, plain and simple.
Your claim that your army is superb when it comes to field performance? Then why for the last 2 decades, Indonesia is ravaged by terrorists attacks and rebels? Is it the job of the TNI to keep their citizen safe? How long does it take until the killing end? 3 million-dollar questions for you and you almighty army there.
Yeah, big words there. Sadly, we have done the same since the 1970s . But guess what, we have fcking LOAD of experience compared to the Indonesian regarding combine arm operations, coordination between brands of service,... Proof? We manage to pacify Khmer Rouge, destroy their bases in Thailand and defense of our northern border against a rather "unstable neighbor". What Indonesians have to brag about the military history of their army? Yea, NOTHING. Except the kill ratio of 13 : 1 which is actually hilarious from my view
And please, your military budget is only exceed us by 13.5 %. As if that is enough to surpass the ACTUAL difference in military experience.
"Professionalism"? Professional enough to shoot at unarmed protesters then?
Again. NO. FCKING. SOURCE. Your junks look like they are about to fall apart, especially the BTRs. You keep them around to brag that you have a huge number of operational vehicle. Period. Name one thing that the VPA field that no longer movable. T-34, Su-100, ASU-85,... Stuff like that roll around just fine but if you look at Wikipedia, Global Firepower and sources like that, they don't include such vehicles and we are fine by that.
"Or whatever reason"?...The vagueness in your claims just reach a whole new level with that phrase...
Yes, Vietnam is an ally that either pay cash or take credit from foreign banks to finance arm purchases. We don't beg Russia, Israel, Belarus, South Korea,... to take palm oil for weapon. I mean if it's crude oil then I guess that could pass but palm oil. FCKING. PALM. OIL. SERIOUSLY? What next? Cow? Sheep? Pig? What the hell is that kind of barter system?
Already done that. In fact, I even spent time to google translate to look for sources in Indonesian in case there are some new developments.
The result? NOTHING. You guys have Man portable surface to air misses plus 1 single mobile missile system (Rapier, NASAMS 2 and TD-2000B) plus auto cannon in term of air defense. Those are hardly suffice in a war with VPAF which is armed to the the teeth with long range air to surface missiles as well as anti-radiation missiles and ECM pods. Your anti ship category fare better but the number is minimal to make an impact. The situation is already grave if you are on the defensive but to attack first? Let's see:
- No anti-radiation missiles
- No bunker-buster ammunition
- No specialized ECM pod for air suppression duty
Yeah, your chance to successfully attack our airbase and navy base is comparable to the chance that you might become an expert analysis of military affair employed by the Indonesian government.
I HIGHLY doubt that claim. Time and again, you come up with various error that prove you know NOTHING about Vietnam, let alone an expert about the Vietnam People Army. Which tank rounds we will receive? Please, those thing are all over the Internet and believe me once I say those are merely SPECULATIONS.
I believe this is the third time you Indonesian come up with that kind of stupid A-S-S question. Solid proof that you know nothing about us, Mr. Expert.
Oh you want go with that, how about this:
Vietnam.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/vietnam/terrorism
Although there’s little history of terrorism in Vietnam, attacks can’t be ruled out. You should be aware of the global risk of indiscriminate terrorist attacks which could be in public areas, including those visited by foreigners.
There’s a heightened threat of terrorist attack globally against UK interests and British nationals, from groups or individuals motivated by the conflict in Iraq and Syria. You should be vigilant at this time.
Indonesia
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/indonesia/terrorism
Terrorists are very likely to try to carry out attacks in Indonesia. Terrorist groups have the capacity and intent to carry out attacks at anytime and anywhere in the country. Types of attacks have included suicide bombings and small-arms fire, targeting public and crowded places.
The threat from Islamist extremism remains high, though the Indonesian authorities continue to disrupt attack planning, including arresting alleged terrorists reportedly in the advanced stages of preparation.
On 14 May 2018 there was an explosion at a security post of police headquarters in Surabaya, causing a number of deaths and casualties.
On 13 May 2018 there were explosions at three churches in Surabaya in East Java causing a number of deaths and casualties.
On 24 May 2017 there were bomb explosions at the Kampung Melayu bus station in east Jakarta. Three police officers were killed.
On 14 January 2016 a terrorist attack took place near the Sari Pan Pacific Hotel and Sarinah Plaza on Jalan M.H. Thamrin in central Jakarta. The attack included a number of explosions and gun battles. Eight people died and a number were injured, including foreigners.
Small-scale attacks occur on a regular basis and further incidents are likely. Attacks could be indiscriminate, including in places frequented by foreigners. Beach resorts, bars and restaurants, hotels, markets, shopping malls hosting major international brand outlets, tourist attractions, places of worship, foreign embassies, polling stations, ferry terminals and airports are all potential targets. Indonesian government, law enforcement interests and places of worship are regularly targeted by extremists. Western interests are also at risk.
Be vigilant and take care at all times. You should regularly review your security arrangements and be particularly vigilant during holiday periods including the Christmas and New Year period, Chinese New Year, Nyepi (Balinese New Year), Easter, Ramadan, local elections and Independence Day (17 August) which can be a time of heightened tension and increased risk.
There is a risk of kidnapping at sea in and around the waters of Indonesia. This risk is higher in the Sulu and Celebes seas.
The long-standing policy of the British government is not to make substantive concessions to hostage takers. The British government considers that paying ransoms and releasing prisoners increases the risk of further hostage taking.
There is considered to be a heightened threat of terrorist attack globally against UK interests and British nationals, from groups or individuals motivated by the conflict in Iraq and Syria. You should be vigilant at this time.
It seems that your report regarding terrorist risk is a WEE BIT LONGER than us in the eyes of the Brit, eh?
Btw, I find something hilarious, I want to share it to you.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-i...battlegrounds-as-elections-loom-idUKKBN1QU0AQ
"Almost every day, “Janda”, a self-described Indonesian housewife with 2,000 Twitter followers, dispenses lifestyle tips, complains about city life, and praises how the government of President Joko Widodo has improved her life as a young mother."
"But Janda the housewife does not exist. The Twitter account’s real owner is an unmarried middle-aged man who offers political social media services backing Widodo’s re-election campaign."
"“Our battleground is social media. The content we are making for the election is reaching at least a million people per week,” said the owner of the Janda account, declining to be named because his work is legally in a grey area."
"Three buzzers directly involved in the current campaign described how they operate hundreds of personalized social media accounts each on behalf of the candidates. One denied propagating fake news, while two said they didn’t care about the accuracy of the content."
"On a recent afternoon in Jakarta, one buzzer team leader scrolled through two mobile phones that had over 250 Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp, YouTube and Twitter accounts, each with a fake persona. He updated five of them with posts praising Widodo’s achievements or mocking Prabowo and his running mate"
Well....I guess that is a good way to earn money from politician. You could hook me up to that? I'm VERY good at picking up dirt in people profile.
