Again, Indonesian avoid to answer things that their brain refuse to handle
I have no idea that your dictator president are so irrelevant that you have to include meaningless summits that are paid for by the US & with both attendee actually left early because they can't reach an understanding. Vietnam serves as venue & props nothing more:
List of notable summits actually hosted by indonesia:
- Asian-Africa summit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandung_Conference
- ASEAN
- APEC
- IMF
- Our Ocean Conference that just we just hosted a couple of months ago. The pope even gives his blessing:
https://www.ucanews.com/news/pope-backs-indonesias-tough-illegal-fishing-policy/84116 what the heck have vietnam ever done to get the approval of the pope?!
- There's more but I'm too lazy.
- & other less notable international conferences that people somehow have no problems with choosing indonesia for the venue:
https://allconferencealert.net/indonesia.php
It seems you guys don't even have access to google if you don't even know that indonesia is a way ahead of vietnam in international politics. Even in the domestics stage you guys are pathetic. In comparison to us anyway.
Thank you for proving my points.
LOL Vietnam hold those summit all the time but guess what, no one care about them so we don't bother to list them here. In the international stage, you need SERIOUS prestige for people from the United Nation Security Council and "nuclear-armed club" to host a summit in your country regarding nuclear disarmament. Sure the result might not play out well but if you have no name whatsoever in politic, they don't even bother to pick you from the first place. Indonesia could be the street vendor but Vietnam shall act as the main event.
Indonesia domestics affair where people got arrested for singing a song? please, enlighten us on how the fck it's better than Vietnam. BTW, I see that you bring out a whole lot of points before about "If we we were in Vietnam back then, we could drive you guys out". Care to explain my "view" about the point?
nice exageration you got there girl, hahahaha. rebels roam the country????? hahahahahahahahahahahaha. much of the rebels had already been subded just like in aceh, the only safe heavens they have now is in the remote mountains of papua or in the jungles of poso. and yes none of the roam the country freely like you imagined. LOL.
meanwhile vietnam=a communist country with ehemmmm free market economy, crying baby and playing victims in south china sea while making multiple incursion into neighboring country waters, stealing fishes, crappy gdp, even more crappy gdp per capita,poor infrastructure, wannabe juggernaut regional power.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-46446719
"A soldier was also shot dead when a team of police and security forces were sent to investigate Sunday's killings, authorities added.
The workers had been building a road and bridges in the remote and mountainous Nduga region.
Police have blamed the deaths on separatist fighters.
Insurgents calling for independence have been active in Papua for decades.
The BBC's Rebecca Henschke in Jakarta says that if the killings are confirmed it will be the deadliest bout of violence in years in the restive province."
Peaceful Indonesia where every people live in harmony
Where is the almighty Indonesian Army that could shoot unarmed fishing boat? Cound they stop the incident from the first place? If you are good at fighting, you would have killed every single terrorist in your country for good. You don't leave a fcking "safe heaven" for them in your country so don't say that as if that is some sort of "achievement" lol. "Hey guys, Indonesia is safe, there are few rebels in the country. Around 4 months ago, 24 Indonesian got executed in a gruesome manner but everything beside that is fine"
That sound damn assuring in so many levels, right?
is it forbidden to cry for those poor souls who vietnamese elite send there without proper arms only to be living target practice by china's naval guns?? I pity them, they should be going to school, having a family, get good jobs. but I think those fat elites above dont think the same
and another Vietnamese fishing boats captured 8th march 2019, this time by Indonesian Navy Corvette Teuku Umar-385
Nah, I pretty sure when you come up with the unintelligible "uhuhuhuhuhhu", you try to make fun of us but it backfire as it make you sound like a pre-puberty GIRL from primary school.
I say A, you scream uhuhuhuhuhhu
I say B, you scream uhuhuhuhuhhu
I say C, you scream uhuhuhuhuhhu
That sure make you like a compassion person? No, you are acting like a kid with a slow-developed brain that attempt to tease adults.
Our soldier got ambushed in the reef with only construction equipment, they are pioneers, not front line combatants. However, their sacrifice help us reclaim most of the lands in Spratly Islands. Indonesia? Well I bet every soldier that invade Papua receive indoctrination about "Papua is our land, the people love us Indonesian there". Decades later, Papua remain hateful of Indonesians. I bet troops from Indonesian want to live peacefully, go to school and stuff but no, Indonesia have to station troops in Papua and let their soldiers die every now and then. That sure make the "Indonesia elite" become a pretty authoritarian regime from Vietnam point of view. Oh wait, the UN Human Right Commission already classify you guys as one long ago.
woahhhhhh, attacking government are kinda tabooo???at the same time criticize us for jailing religion insulters hahahahaha, VN is always ruled by strong central government ????hahahaha I cant believe the amount of hyprocrisy in this thread by viet forumers. bashing indonesia for using snake as torture while itself is infamous for torture (you know commies thing), bashing china for incursions while sending naval vessels to others territory, whats next vietcong??????
Lol what commie things? You are seriously comparing wartime Vietnam to modern day Indonesia? No, in the 21st century, we don't use snake to torture people like the barbaric Indonesian, get that fact straight. Want me to bring story about wartime Indonesia? Pretty sure you guys upheld moral code well in the 1965-1966 Genocide.
so tell me how is it building and spending lavishly on the armed forces=economic development???? Im interested. still just to remind you the fact that your gdp is pfffft only 1/4th of ours.
Oh you like numbers?
Less than 10 million Vietnamese live with less than 1 dollar/day (poverty line by World Bank standard). Indonesia? That number is more than 20 million. Sure, Indonesian GDP is 5 times higher than Vietnam but more Vietnamese know about wealth than Indonesian lol.We Vietnamese force people to share wealth? Then in Indonesia, I guess all the wealth got held up at the top.
No baby, you suffer from communism
The opinion of a Indonesian retard would not outweigh the opinions of experts from Standard & Poor, Moody and Fitch. You know, major firms that assess the economy for nations around the world? They say the Vietnam economy is longer a controlled economy then we are no longer a controlled economy. Period. Want to say otherwise? Show your degree in economic and we shall talk more.
your country nowadays still suffered from communist shit utopia, which is driven by some immature kids who thinks they're smart after reading karl marx das capital. thinking its so great that everything must be shared between the comune ,it's only in 90s that your government realize that communism sucks and entered the market economy. but still they use communism as a rallying cry so that the vietnam commie party could stay in power. sad
We improve outsell and look to the future, nothing wrong with that. Indonesia? "We must beware of the communist threats" is the top common election quote for every campaigner in Indonesia. You want to hunt communist so bad that you forget that non-communist rebels still kill Indonesian every day lol. You guys still dream back in the days of Suharto where killing communist earns you aids from the West but guess what? In the 21st century, Indonesia is known for bombing, terrorist slice up throat of citizen and police lock people in cage with snakes, not "communist uprising".
As this is the "Vietnam Military Forum thread" after all, let's talk about Vietnam military for a bit as the Indonesian trolls are busy raging.
A Sukhoi aircraft from the VPAF has rejoined the fleet after receiving upgrades at oversea
