Vietnam celebrate the overall assembly the 6th domestic Molniya missile boat

[sword1947]

The question is not how many missiles a 052D has, but how many it can use at the same time, plus, they usually launch 2 missiles for each incoming missile, so those VLS's are going to get empty pretty soon. Gun based CIWS are not good to intercept supersonic missiles.



I believe there is only 1 of the 052D at the moment and more under construction.

you have to count how may missle Chinese south fleet have

We could always point out that China is unable to push their whole asset to fight us. While we could



China would not dare to use that airport, because they would be destroyed immediately if conflict happen

we are building it right now, come to distroy right now, please!!!!!! we dare to build, we dare to use

 

[BoQ77]

we are building it right now, come to distroy right now, please!!!!!! we dare to build, we dare to use

I'm not sure, that could be finished or not.
And you could see by your eye, how many they could deploy to that.

It would be destroyed when the conflict expanded.

 

[dichoi]

To shoot what drone or helo? Those are super short range manpad. You think you are in Syria war? I cannot simply control my laughter at the intelligent of our Vietnamese forum er level.

You are very desperate trying to prove vietnam has upper hand but fail miserably.


Yes, it cannot work becos vietnam troll say so to hide their shortcoming

this toy is very effective in Vietanm war, kid.

 

[Beast]

Vietnamese troll desperate to hide their shortcoming. Bragging from tryin hard to convince China has no air refuelling asset, no su-30 fighter, less warship than vietnam and more sophisticated submarine than China.

Very bad loser.

this toy is very effective in Vietanm war, kid.

You think SCS is fought in jungle? what attitude range can it reach? 6000m high?

 

[BoQ77]

Vietnamese troll desperate to hide their shortcoming. Bragging from tryin hard to convince China has no air refuelling asset, no su-30 fighter, less warship than vietnam and more sophisticated submarine than China.

We never say what you assigned us to say. So shame to discuss that way, you put your words into our mouth.

Air refuelling is not something new. We used to be familiar with US refuelling ability during Vietnam war. USA produced 800 KC-135 during 1955-1965

They are far more capable than yours both refuel and aircraft carrier, and we still could fight them.

 

[Beast]

We never say what you assigned us to say. So shame to discuss that way, you put your words into our mouth.

Just flip back the few thread and see what dumb words you Vietnamese troll say. Some even brag they have the same kilo636 sub as some superior thing we do not own. Tell you, we PLAN have 12 of them and we been using its in war games simulate indian navy and Vietnamese navy attack for many years as way to counter these sub. They are nothing special.

And another dumb thing is some Vietnamese idiot suggest China H-6U tanker do not work. Want me to show you J-8II and J-10 aerial refueling in YouTube?

 

[Viet]

we should follow the advise of this wise man: Larry Bond. he wrote this novel "Shattered Trident", how Vietnam navy can cripple Chinese naval fleet with a combination of the Kilo subs, transport ships carrying Yahkonts and the Molniyas/Gepards, adding some warfare ambush, hit and run tactic.

While trailing a Chinese nuclear attack sub, Jerry Mitchell, the captain of USS North Dakota, is shocked to see the Chinese boat torpedo a Vietnamese merchant ship.

This blatant act of aggression is the opening gambit in a war that has blindsided the U.S. and quickly embroiled all nations in the western Pacific. These nations, bound together in the newly formed Littoral Alliance, have begun a covert submarine campaign aimed at crippling China’s economy before China can set in motion its own plot to dominate the region.

In a desperate attempt to buy the president enough time to resolve the crisis diplomatically, Mitchell’s submarine squadron is ordered to interfere with attacks by both sides. China and the Littoral Alliance are both determined to win, no matter the cost, and as each side increases the level of violence, they approach a dangerous tipping point. Larry Bond's Shattered Trident is a race against time, as the submarines of Mitchell’s squadron must execute their mission before the world witnesses an economic catastrophe—or worse, a nuclear exchange.

 

[BoQ77]

Just flip back the few thread and see what dumb words you Vietnamese troll say. Some even brag they have the same kilo636 sub as some superior thing we do not own. Tell you, we PLAN have 12 of them and we been using its in war games simulate indian navy and Vietnamese navy attack for many years as way to counter these sub. They are nothing special.

And another dumb thing is some Vietnamese idiot suggest China H-6U tanker do not work. Want me to show you J-8II and J-10 aerial refueling in YouTube?

1. Our improved Kilo is different from yours. So you couldn't say anything about what different from yours, as your subs.
You have an Audi 2004 and we have an Audi 2014. And we not focus on subs in this thread.
2. You misunderstand my meaning. I said the tactic doesn't work, your aerial refueling is limited. Not the tanker cannot fly.

 

[dichoi]

Vietnamese troll desperate to hide their shortcoming. Bragging from tryin hard to convince China has no air refuelling asset, no su-30 fighter, less warship than vietnam and more sophisticated submarine than China.

Very bad loser.


You think SCS is fought in jungle? what attitude range can it reach? 6000m high?

This is training in our Islands. what can chinese aircraft do when you flying over 6,000 m ?

 

[Beast]

we should follow the advise of this wise man: Larry Bond. he wrote this novel "Shattered Trident", how Vietnam navy can cripple Chinese naval fleet with a combination of the Kilo subs, transport ships carrying Yahkonts and the Molniyas/Gepards, adding some warfare ambush, hit and run tactic.


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While trailing a Chinese nuclear attack sub, Jerry Mitchell, the captain of USS North Dakota, is shocked to see the Chinese boat torpedo a Vietnamese merchant ship.

This blatant act of aggression is the opening gambit in a war that has blindsided the U.S. and quickly embroiled all nations in the western Pacific. These nations, bound together in the newly formed Littoral Alliance, have begun a covert submarine campaign aimed at crippling China’s economy before China can set in motion its own plot to dominate the region.

In a desperate attempt to buy the president enough time to resolve the crisis diplomatically, Mitchell’s submarine squadron is ordered to interfere with attacks by both sides. China and the Littoral Alliance are both determined to win, no matter the cost, and as each side increases the level of violence, they approach a dangerous tipping point. Larry Bond's Shattered Trident is a race against time, as the submarines of Mitchell’s squadron must execute their mission before the world witnesses an economic catastrophe—or worse, a nuclear exchange.

Are you desperate that a fantasy can be your prove of overwhelming superiority over PLAN?

This is training in our Islands.

That is ATGM not air defense missile? I want apple and you give me orange? Are we on the same frequency on the right topic? You seems to have lack critical knowledge for our topic.

Do you know what is manpad and long range air defense? Do you know what is their differents?

1. Our improved Kilo is different from yours. So you couldn't say anything about what different from yours, as your subs.
You have an Audi 2004 and we have an Audi 2014. And we not focus on subs in this thread.
2. You misunderstand my meaning. I said the tactic doesn't work, your aerial refueling is limited. Not the tanker cannot fly.

Oh yes, our tatic do not work becos BoQ77 says so. You are very desperate that you are making a fool of yourself, do you know that?

 

[dichoi]

Are you desperate that a fantasy can be your prove of overwhelming superiority over PLAN?


That is ATGM not air defense missile? I want apple and you give me orange? Are we on the same frequency on the right topic? You seems to have lack critical knowledge for our topic.

Do you know what is manpad and long range air defense? Do you know what is their differents?


Oh yes, our tatic do not work becos BoQ77 says so. You are very desperate that you are making a fool of yourself, do you know that?

we have been move this big toy to stationair on our Islands.

 

[Viet]

Are you desperate that a fantasy can be your prove of overwhelming superiority over PLAN?

well, I bought the book. some realistic points as the author assumes: china leadership loses the patience and decides to launch the first strike. the order: China southern and eastern naval fleets supported by an army of marines to invade the islands currently occupied by vietnam, japan and philippines: code name: trident. the invasion is covered by fake naval exercises.

however, Vietnam intel captures the message and carries out the preemptive strike: the Liaoning aircraft carrier is the first target.

 

[BoQ77]

Oh yes, our tatic do not work becos BoQ77 says so. You are very desperate that you are making a fool of yourself, do you know that?

This is only discussion, so feel free to persuade us that tactic works. you could always do that .
Like :
Where Chinese fighter would take off ?
How far they reach the destination
How they manage to get aerial refueling on way forth and back
How long they spend for refuel
How they protect their tanker supply
How long they could engage in air combat
How many could refueling at the same time.
....

 

[sword1947]

I'm not sure, that could be finished or not.
And you could see by your eye, how many they could deploy to that.

It would be destroyed when the conflict expanded.

enough to kick your Su30. your homeland become ruin, too.

 

[Aepsilons]

well, I bought the book. some realistic points as the author assumes: china leadership loses the patience and decides to launch the first strike. the order: China southern and eastern naval fleets supported by an army of marines invade the islands currently occupied by vietnam, japan and philippines: code name: trident.

however, Vietnam intel captures the message and plans the innitial strike.

So what happens in the book? You have me curious now...