Vietnam asks China to end sovereignty violations

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

one thing had ruled viets

like a cake?

 

[perplexed]

nothing compared to Indian bhartis shooting poor BD girls and Kashmir kids, at least we are shooting those illegal finishing male viets

one thing had ruled viets

BD girls don't polevault and only those indulging terrorism are killed in Kashmir. I am sure u are not going to say now that the fishermen were terrorists ? That much IQ we can expect atleast.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

There are few options for vietnam

1)if they are serious about territory claims then they need to increase defense purchases for 4-5 years to fill the gap.
get western tech,its much better than chinese one and make good relations with U.S as they are going to station half of their navy in asia pacific.But dont be a football in hand of U.S and keep talking with china while buying more time.

2)if viets are not serious then they should accept their hegemony.we read famous quote that "if you cant beat them then join them".Chinese will surely leave few things for you and they are not going to occupy every inch of sea.

We not do both the ways, we will negotiate with China to get back Hoang Sa Islands (Paracel Islands) peacefully, even we have to continue to wait a thousand years from now ...
http://www.thanhniennews.com/index/pages/20111125-vietnam-pm-claims-to-take-archipelago-back-with-peaceful-measures.aspx

 

[R-DB]

We not do both the ways, we will negotiate with China to get back Hoang Sa Islands (Paracel Islands) peacefully, even we have to continue to wait a thousand years from now ...
Vietnam latest news - Thanh Nien Daily | PM affirms Vietnam's sovereignty over Paracel

till that china will consume whole oil of sea
so keep talking

 

[Black Widow]

Viets are whining on the coral reef now

Pathetic attitude. From what sense you call it whining?

Vietnam asks the Chinese side to respect the country’s sovereignty and end all activities violating its sovereignty over the Hoang Sa archipelago, making practical contributions to maintaining peace and stability on the East Sea .

Vietnamese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Luong Thanh Nghi made the request on March 15 in response to the Chinese side’s recent activities over Vietnam ’s Hoang Sa ( Paracel) archipelago.

 

[God of Death]

We are with u.

china should not bully its neibhours it should remember the bloddy nose given by brave Vietnamese people. in the past attemt of china to bully Vietnam.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

till that china will consume whole oil of sea
so keep talking

Oil is not the biggest problem.
For us, sovereignty, territorial integrity and self-esteem are the most important things.

 

[Hafizzz]

Paracel and Spratly Islands

Paracel Islands

.... Chinese cultural relics in the Paracel islands dating from the Tang and Song dynasty eras indicate there is some evidence of Chinese
habitation on the islands in these periods.
.... Ancient Vietnamese maps record Bai Cát Vàng (Golden Sandbanks, as
claimed today by Vietnam referring to both Paracel and Spratly
Islands).
1537 Portuguese sailor de Pinto names the islands
the Ilhas dos Tavaquerro.
1816 Vietnamese flag planted in a formal ceremony on the Paracels.
1885 China restates its claim to the Southern Islands.
1887 Claimed by France as part of French Indochina (see Vietnam).
1932 China protests French sovereignty over the islands.
21 Dec 1933 Annexed to French Indochina (see Vietnam), part of Ba Ria
province.
4 Apr 1939 Japan declares the Paracel Islands a protectorate.
1941 Annexed by Japan, part of Taiwan province.
Oct 1946 Claimed by Republic of China (Xisha Islands), part of Gugangdong
province.
1949 Claimed by Vietnam.
7 Jul 1951 Claimed by South Vietnam.
8 Sep 1951 Japan officially renounces sovereignty by Treaty of San Francisco.
24 Mar 1953 China creates the 'Paracels, Spratlys, and Zhongsha Islands
Authority' established as a county-level administrative division
on Woody Island (named 4 Mar 1963 - 22 Oct 1981 Paracels,
Spratlys, and Zhongsha Islands Revolutionary Committee) within
Guangdong (from 1984 Hainan).
22 Oct 1956 Formally annexed by South Vietnam, part of Phuoc Tuy province.
15 Jun 1956 North Vietnam declares that the Xisha and Nansha
(Spratly) Islands are historically Chinese territories.
13 Jul 1961 Placed under Quang Nam province by South Vietnam.
20 Jan 1974 Annexed by the People's Republic of China, part of Gugangdong
province (from 13 Apr 1988, Hainan province); South Vietnmese
forces are expelled.
1 Jul 1976 Claimed by Vietnam (Hoang Sa).

Spratly Islands

.... Ancient Vietnamese maps record Bai Cát Vàng (Golden Sandbanks, as
claimed today by Vietnam referring to both Paracel and Spratly
Islands).
1211 Island group is first shown on a Chinese map.
1405 Visited by China (Nansha Qundao [Southern Islands]).
1530 Sighted by Portuguese explorer Alvarez de Diegoz.
1606 Claimed by Spain as part of the Philippines .
1791 Visited by British Capt. Henry Spratly discovers Mischief Reef.
1710 Chinese Ching dynasty claims two northern islands and builds a
temple on North East Cay.
1798 British navy builds an iron observation tower on Itu Aba.
1802 Claimed by Vietnam (Truong Sa [Long Islands]).
29 Mar 1843 British whaler Richard Spratly spotted what is now known as
Spratly Island and Ladd Reef.
1885 China restates its claim to the Southern Islands.
1887 Claimed by France as part of French Indochina (see Vietnam).
1898 Specifically excluded from Philippine territory by Treaty of Paris.
10 Apr 1930 France occupies Itu Aba Island and Amboyna Cay.
1932 China protests French sovereignty over the islands.
21 Dec 1933 Annexed to French Cochinchina (see Vietnam), part of Ba Ria
province.
15 Jun 1938 Established as the administrative unit of Truong Sa within Thua
Thien province by the Governor-general of French Indo-China .
5 May 1939 Divided into 2 agencies- Croissant and dependencies and Amphirite
and dependencies- by Governor-general of French Indo-China.
4 Apr 1939 Japan declares the Spratly Islands a protectorate.
1941 Annexed by Japan, renamed Shinnan Shoto (New Southern Islands),
part of Taiwan province; Japan builds submarine base on Itu Aba.
Oct 1946 Claimed by China, part of Gugangdong province.
1949 Claimed by Vietnam.
7 Jul 1951 Claimed by South Vietnam.
8 Sep 1951 Japan officially renounces sovereignty by Treaty of San Francisco.
15 May 1956 Claimed by Philippine citizen Tomas Cloma as the new state
of Kalayaan (Freedom Land).
15 Jun 1956 North Vietnam declares that the Nasha and Xisha (Paracel)
Islands are historically Chinese territories.
22 Oct 1956 Formally annexed by South Vietnam, part of Phuoc Tuy province.
8 Jun 1956 Taiwan takes Itu Aba (Taiping) island from Philippines.
13 Jul 1961 Placed under Quang Nam province by South Vietnam.
1969 - 1971 U.S. radar station on Spratly Island.
10 Jul 1971 Annexed by the Philippines (from Apr 1972 incorporated into Palawan
province).
5/6 May 1975 'Liberated' from Saigon regime by Provisional Republic of South
Vietnam.
1 Jul 1976 Claimed by Vietnam (Truong Sa), part of Khanh Hoa province.
1978 China occupies six atolls, taking them from Vietnam, part of
Gugangdong province (from 13 Apr 1988, Hainan province).
11 Jun 1978 Philippines officially annexes the islands.
21 Dec 1979 Malaysia occupies Swallow Reef (Terumbu Layang); Malaysia publishes
a map of its continental shelf that encompasses 12 Spratly
Island features as part of Sabah state.
1983 Malaysia claims Malaysia occupied Swallow Reef (Layang Layang),
and Amboyna Cay as part of Sabah state.
1984 Brunei establishes an exclusive fishing zone that encompasses
Louisa Reef.
25 Feb 1992 Officially declared part of China by "Law on the Territorial Sea
and the Contiguous Zone."
Feb 1995 China occupies Mischief Reef, Chinese fishing crews later expelled
by Philippine forces on 20-28 Mar 1995.
4 Nov 2002 Claimants sign the "Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in
the South China Sea."


Territorial Disputes: All of the Spratly Islands are claimed by China, Taiwan and Vietnam;
China currently occupies 7 areas (Cuarteron, Fiery Cross, Gaven, Hughes, Johnson, Mischief, and Subi); Taiwan occupies one (Itu Aba); and Vietnam occupies 21 areas (Alison, Amboyan, Barque Canada, Central London, Cornwallis South, East London, Da Gri-san, Da Hi Gen, Great Discovery, Ladd, Landsdowne, Pearson, Petley, Sand, Sin Cowe, South Reef, South West Cay, Spratly, Tennent, and West London); parts of them are claimed by Malaysia (which occupies 3- Ardasier, Mariveles and Swallow Reefs); and the Philippines (which occupies 8 areas- Loaita, Nanshan, West York, Lamkian Cay, Thitu, North East Cay, Flat, and Commodore Reef); in 1984, Brunei established an exclusive fishing zone that encompasses Louisa Reef in the southern Spratly Islands but has not publicly claimed the island; claimants in Nov 2002 signed the "Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea", a mechanism to ease tension but which fell short of a legally binding "code of conduct"; in Mar 2005, the national oil companies of China, the Philippines, and Vietnam signed a joint accord to conduct marine seismic activities in the Spratly Islands.

 

[chinapakistan]

Keep warning, try your best.

 

[ephone]

Welcome to wait. You know what you get if you fight China for the past thousand years: only ruins.

More than a thousand years ago, we had thousand-year fights to get back Đại Việt's independence fully. Nowaday we continue to struggle peacefully to get back Hoang Sa Islands (Paracel), even we have to wait a thousand years from now ...

I do not understand those vn guys always list one or two victories and remember them forever.

However, you forget you vn is simply a small satellite "country" that has to pay tributes to China every year for most of the past two thousand years.

If you want to fight China again, well, China is willing to help you with that.

"Đại Việt" or "Great Viet" is the former name Vietnam today.
"Kinh" or "Viet" is ethnic majority in Vietnam.
I think you don't know the Battle of Bach Dang River in 938, because if you know it you did not say that.
Battle of Bach Dang River (938) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/164062-india-enhancing-ties-vietnam-energy-infra.html#post2678521

 

[dunhill]

Welcome to wait. You know what you get if you fight China for the past thousand years: only ruins.



I do not understand those vn guys always list one or two victories and remember them forever.

However, you forget you vn is simply a small satellite "country" that has to pay tributes to China every year for most of the past two thousand years.

If you want to fight China again, well, China is willing to help you with that.

ephone:

Let me put this simple for you to understand more Ok?

1- Yes, Vietnam was paid for whatever it needed to avoid troulble. Like I willing to pay money for whatver a thief ordered me to do, to exchang my trouble free. I also willing to fight in between live or death.

Your China's was like that way. Is it the way Chinese people always pround of its country?

 

[S10]

Little Viets can complain all they want. We're going to enforce our sea border.

 

[sweetgrape]

It is wasting time to argue with VIET, just keep energy to build more warship, prepare for war. According to the situation, I don't think the negotiation can't solve anything, which just to buy time, china to build more ship, Viet to import weapon from other country, that's all.
China can beat viet in South China Sea easily, the big problem is USA, we prepare to let USA and other counties outside the war, the war initiative is in our side, we just need to be patient and make some excuse, or even not any excuse, the situation is it.

 

[kalu_miah]

Since prehistory, the Han nation was built borg style, beat a new ethnic group and absorb, sometimes opposite happened too, get beaten and then absorb, like the Manchus. The Mongol case is still ongoing and Tibet and Xinjiang Turkics cases started only in 1950's. So it looks like Dai Viets and Koreans are two cases where the Han failed, and are facing stiff resistance. But North Korea is half gone. I know of ethnic Koreans from China, selling Korean style Chinese food in the US, that have apparently lost most of their unique Korean-ness and consider themselves more Chinese than Koreans.

The difference in the Indian union is that it allows more room for unique-ness of ethno-linguistic groups and is more of a collection of many different groups, rather than being a part of a more or less mono-lithic Han, except when people have adopted Abrahamic religion, who are considered as aggressive predatory traitors and irredeemable.

I view the future union of smaller states as collection of different ethno-linguistic groups with their own history, who will choose to unite to face common threats, so they can resist the borg style absorption. Resistance is not futile, when a proper strategy is in place.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Since prehistory, the Han nation was built borg style, beat a new ethnic group and absorb, sometimes opposite happened too, get beaten and then absorb, like the Manchus. The Mongol case is still ongoing and Tibet and Xinjiang Turkics cases started only in 1950's. So it looks like Dai Viets and Koreans are two cases where the Han failed, and are facing stiff resistance. But North Korea is half gone. I know of ethnic Koreans from China, selling Korean style Chinese food in the US, that have apparently lost most of their unique Korean-ness and consider themselves more Chinese than Koreans.

The difference in the Indian union is that it allows more room for unique-ness of ethno-linguistic groups and is more of a collection of many different groups, rather than being a part of a more or less mono-lithic Han, except when people have adopted Abrahamic religion, who are considered as aggressive predatory traitors and irredeemable.

I view the future union of smaller states as collection of different ethno-linguistic groups with their own history, who will choose to unite to face common threats, so they can resist the borg style absorption. Resistance is not futile, when a proper strategy is in place.

please stop false flagging. i can smell the s% on your left hand from a mile away.